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Does anyone here still believe Barkley was the right pick?

MookGiants : 9/18/2018 8:26 am
Saquon Barkley is a terrific talent. I have zero doubts that he will be a great player in this league.

That being said, is there anyone still left on BBI who actually believes he was the correct pick for this franchise? I'm not being a smart ass, I'd legitimately like to hear why if you believe that.

This franchise has no real plan for the future right now. Gettleman has not earned the benefit of the doubt. He very clearly was wrong in his evaluation of the current team. He clearly believed they were ready to win now, which is obviously very far from the truth. He clearly believed Eli had a lot left in the tank. That doesn't seem to be the case.

The single most important job of a new GM is properly evaluating your current roster. A lot of people on BBI will say this is hindsight, but it's really not. Many of us on BBI didn't believe this team was ready to win now. A lot of our worst fears have been realized. Some will point to 2016 as a reason to go for it this year that they are actually more talented than they were in 2016. The problem I have with that is 2016 is the only year in the last what, 5 years, that the team hasn't sucked shit. That entire season seemed very flukey. They won a shit load of close games. The defense played way above their heads. Eli did not have a great year.

It's more than fair to be worried about the direction of this franchise with John Mara and Gettleman running the show. Most of the decisions John Mara has made have blown up in his face. There is no way to know this for sure, but I'd guess that DG is the only GM that the Giants could have hired that would have taken Barkley. His comments in the press are the most frightening of all. Ripping analytics and talking as if we're still in the 1980's.

Right or wrong, I also think DG's age played a role in the decisions made in the off-season. He's 67 years old. He's unlikely to be thinking of where this franchise will be in a decade.

It's still hard to fathom that anyone could watch the Giants the last 4-5 years and thought that taking a running back #2 overall was a smart business decision.

A lot of people on BBI in the off-season also thought that Davis Webb was the legitimate future of the Giants. Yet another thing i'll never be able to wrap my head around. He couldn't get off the bench last year and play over Geno Smith for a regime that drafted him. That told me all I needed to know about him.

Eli Manning is not the main problem with this team. But the fact is he's 37 years old, has not played well in years, and with the current roster it's not going to get any better. He could have Barry Sanders in his prime back there and it wouldn't make much difference. The line is a total train wreck. Eli is clearly shot mentally playing behind this line for the last 5 years. Physically he still has something left but each year that passes he's going to have less and less left.

I actually feel bad for Barkley. It's not his fault that the roster sucks.

The Giants desperately need a QB of the future. 2019 doesn't look to be a good year to need a QB, the likely top QB has a lot of character concerns. Barkley could stand on his head every game and without a QB for the future and a new offensive line none of it will ever matter.

John Mara has really put this franchise in a terrible situation. There is a legitimate argument to be made that the New York Giants are in the worst shape for the future of any team in the sport.

Yes, it's only 2 games into the season. But we've seen this movie too many times in the last 5 years.

The owner can't be fired, but he hasn't given any Giants fan reason to be confident in any decision that he makes. He totally botched the Eli situation last year, made the wrong hire at HC in McAdoo, kept Jerry Reese as the GM for way too long, stayed within his comfort zone when he hired Gettleman. His batting average is close to .00 in the last 5 years when it comes to decision making.

I'm genuinely interested in hearing from people who still believe that Barkley was the correct pick for this franchise. Every season that goes by without being a contender is a season wasted of Barkley's prime.

This really was not that hard to see coming.
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RE: No one is critical of the Browns for not taking Barkley  
Jimmy Googs : 9/21/2018 7:05 pm : link
In comment 14088486 Sean said:
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I find that interesting.


Whats so interesting? A team that has been rudderless without a decent QB for decades goes QB over a RB with the #1 pick, and then even picks a RB in the next round and its interesting?

why...
I can't wait to repost this thread at the end of the season  
AnnapolisMike : 9/21/2018 7:39 pm : link
after the Giants have won six out of their last nine games. The Oline is not going to suck all season. They will figure it out enough to get the offense functioning. (unless Eli gets killed before that happens)

This was a great thread but the your not going to know how this draft turned out for another 2-3 years. Right now the team sucks because the OL is playing like complete crap. If you want to point to one thing that has held this team back over the past 5 years. It is the damn OL, and that is not for lack of trying. It just has not worked out. Flowers, Richburg, Pugh, the early demise of Snee. It has been an unmitigated disaster.

I’ve read bits of the thread so am unsure if this  
yatqb : 9/21/2018 9:23 pm : link
point has been made. For those who advocate taking a QB, I hope you recognize that you’d have to pick the right one. Because I’m betting that one of those available at 2 will be nothing special, whereas Barkley will be a star.

I hoped we’d take a QB, but was most high on Mayfield, and felt the others were more of a risk. I’m think DG felt the same.
You need a mobile QB in today's NFL,  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/21/2018 9:30 pm : link
and it seems like we're moving in that direction more and more as each year passes by. Just the way the game is evolving.
Yes  
mrvax : 9/23/2018 1:25 pm : link
Fantastic pick!
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