Some interesting stats regarding the OL

will eventually mesh, eventually get in sync, hopefully, sooner, rather than later. If not, then of course we’re in trouble

And we've already started with the injuries like last year as well. There just isn't very much reason for optimism. No OL means no offense. And no offense means even a good enough defense will eventually fail as well.

it has to get better, this must be rock bottom......

You mean horrifying, then I agree.

6 freaking inches.

It's the 1970s all over again.

truly horrifying number. For reference, who is just ahead and what is their avg yard before contact???

...about average. Wait, what is this thread about?

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...about average. Wait, what is this thread about?

that was funny unlike our OL’s blocking.

for us in the 70's.

"Bill (coach Bill Parcells) was calling us Club 13 all week" said right tackle Karl Nelson, referring to the 13 yards Morris had gained in 14 carries when the Giants played the 49ers last month.

2018 Giants OL: "Club 6"

a regulation NFL football is ~11inches end to end. they cant even move the length of the ball without being hit.

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truly horrifying number. For reference, who is just ahead and what is their avg yard before contact???

Tweet by Austin Gayle from PFF. I am sure you have to be subscriber to see the rest of the data.

This unit is the worst in NFL over these 2 weeks.

with a lot of mileage on his tires. Hernandez is a rookie who has shown very little so far and maybe is already a cause for concern. Omameh is awful, has always been awful and is a downgrade from John Jerry at double the price. They have no NFL center on the roster and the other guy is Ereck Flowers. Don't worry it's all good.

Saquon is lost as a pass blocker. He was known to not be very good at it, but the bad line exposes him.

On the taco charlton sack,there were 4 giants to 4 blitzers. Both Nate Soldier and Jonathan Stewart went inside which left Charlton unblocked.

I dont know which one of them made the bad decision based on the game plan.

I did see Saquon out of position for picking up blitzers ALOT.

Are Gettleman and Shurmur going to buy the line that it is all the OL's fault?

No, no they are not.

Gettleman has dug himself in on Eli, yes, but he'll eat crow on that easier than he will admit he doesn't know how to build an OL.

Shurmur isn't stupid enough to say anything that will come across as "Hey, I guess the guy you fired to hire me was right after all". But, does he want a mobile QB to run his offense? Yes, yes he does.

As for the stats: everything is related. If the defense knows the QB can't extend a pass play, there will be more defenders stacked at the line. If the ball is handed off, or checked down, they can jump on the ball carrier just as well as rush the passer.

Its going to get better. Hard to believe it could get any worse.

In comment 14083699 JerseyCityJoe said:

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Its going to get better. Hard to believe it could get any worse.

And in come Watt and Clowney

0.8 seconds?

...translation:

We're picking first in the 2019 NFL Draft.

In comment 14083699 JerseyCityJoe said:

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Its going to get better. Hard to believe it could get any worse.

If we lose this week in Houston, I'd toss that towel immediately and start dwelling on who we select at #1 in the 2019 NFL Draft.

no line = no offense

I think you were looking for....depressing.

The offensive line is a mess, but their problems from last week are fixable. Need better communication.

The issue is every single team in the league now knows the biggest weakness of the weakest position group on the Giants. As mentioned we're staring down the death row of pass rushers. Because we cannot run the ball (another massive issue) 2nd and 3rd down are obvious pass situations. You want to stop the stunts? Run the ball well. Every team will run stunts on us until we start to get better in both of those areas.

Pugh while not perfect at RT sure would look a whole lot better than Flowers. Worst case would have been Pugh at RG next to Flowers and Jones remaining at Center. That Stewart money could have put a dent in Pugh's contract.

In comment 14083643 arniefez said:

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with a lot of mileage on his tires. Hernandez is a rookie who has shown very little so far and maybe is already a cause for concern. Omameh is awful, has always been awful and is a downgrade from John Jerry at double the price. They have no NFL center on the roster and the other guy is Ereck Flowers. Don't worry it's all good.

FWIW, Hernandez was far and away the highest graded Giant on offense in week 2 by PFF. They gave him an 81.8 with the next highest being Halapio at 69.3.

the Giants were middle of the pack last year with 1.44 which you wouldn't think per the linked article. Hopefully, we get a big uptick or one will have to wonder what is going on with our Hog Molly Guru of a GM. 1.47 was average per the league.

Eagles were 24th in the league and won the Superbowl, I would have expected a much higher number for them.

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In comment 14083889 JFIB said:

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Pugh while not perfect at RT sure would look a whole lot better than Flowers. Worst case would have been Pugh at RG next to Flowers and Jones remaining at Center. That Stewart money could have put a dent in Pugh's contract.

I'm guessing you didn't watch the Cardinals game on Sunday - when Phew had Sam Bradford wishing he was somewhere else -- Bradford got knocked around like a rag doll on Sunday -- I think he was sacked, hurried more than Eli was -- Phew made quite a few stinkies in that one (see what I did there?)