NFT: Bert and Ernie Controversy

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So they’re like the characters on the USS Callister?

NTTAWWT

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This guy joined the show in 1984.

Mathematical logic dictates that he's a liar!

Bert has a checkered past

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didn't even really say that. He said when he was writing for the 2 characters that's how he "contextualized" them in order to write.

"He compared his own relationship with acclaimed editor Arnold Glassman to the characters. “I always felt that without a huge agenda, when I was writing Bert and Ernie, they were. I didn’t have any other way to contextualize them. The other thing was, more than one person referred to Arnie and I as ‘Bert and Ernie,’ ” Saltzman recalled.

would naturally put himself and his partner into those roles to pull story lines or banter.

But Jesus H Christ ... like the site stated, they're puppets, used to teach kids. Why do they need a sexual orientation definition? lol

People ... I swear to God.

... but his perception can be that - his ... personal ... perception.

Whatever, people.

new parents getting an alternative choice to "male" or "female" when their baby is born.

Uh. No. Those are the human choices. lol

at work named his child "Human" because he said the gender orientation will be the child's choice.

As opposed to??

Dude just fucked his kid over with one of the worst names ever and he's focused on gender orientation??

In comment 14084097 Beezer said:

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new parents getting an alternative choice to "male" or "female" when their baby is born. Uh. No. Those are the human choices. lol

I don't know what facebook article you are referring to but children can be born intersex. Its not a made up thing. They are born with both a penis and a vagina.

the Cabbie and the Cop in "It's a Wonderful Life" back when only Johnny Carson seemed to be talking about it, and before it re-exploded in the 1980s.

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I don't know why Ernie puts up with it

In comment 14084116 ron mexico said:

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I don't know what facebook article you are referring to but children can be born intersex. Its not a made up thing. They are born with both a penis and a vagina.

So if someone tells them to go f**k themselves, they can actually do it?

who fucken cares???

in a relationship
Family Guy on Bert and Ernie - ( New Window )

is totally trans-gender.

about diapers.

to you?

since they both are always getting fisted.

Oye..controversy?

In comment 14084425 micky said:

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Oye..controversy?

This is something that’s been discussed for years. But hey, don’t let that get in the way of your ignorant, “Get off my lawn.” stupidity.

is how pissed off Frank Oz is about it.

Frank's Twitter - ( New Window )

This isn't even the most controversial thing that was said about a beloved children's character today.

In comment 14084432 Pete in 'Vliet said:

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is how pissed off Frank Oz is about it. Frank's Twitter - ( New Window )

You took that to be "pissed off"?

and ernie was the younger one always annoying him, but i recall in hs people joking about them being gay. I read Oz's comments. I don't see anger in them

In comment 14084456 Pete in 'Vliet said:

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This isn't even the most controversial thing that was said about a beloved children's character today.

Ha!

That Jones and Accorsi had a fight

In comment 14084496 j_rud said:

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In comment 14084432 Pete in 'Vliet said: Quote: is how pissed off Frank Oz is about it. Frank's Twitter - ( New Window ) You took that to be "pissed off"?

I actually thought that was a great reply by Oz.

It's the same thing I said when Spongebob Squarepants went under attack by religious groups way back when. Nobody ever specifically mentions his sexual orientation in the cartoon, and really - why the fuck would they? It's a fucking cartoon sponge that talks, it doesn't need a sexual orientation straight, gay or otherwise.

In comment 14084114 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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at work named his child "Human" because he said the gender orientation will be the child's choice. As opposed to?? Dude just fucked his kid over with one of the worst names ever and he's focused on gender orientation??

This isn't real

In comment 14084583 jcn56 said:

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In comment 14084496 j_rud said: Quote: In comment 14084432 Pete in 'Vliet said: Quote: is how pissed off Frank Oz is about it. Frank's Twitter - ( New Window ) You took that to be "pissed off"? I actually thought that was a great reply by Oz. It's the same thing I said when Spongebob Squarepants went under attack by religious groups way back when. Nobody ever specifically mentions his sexual orientation in the cartoon, and really - why the fuck would they? It's a fucking cartoon sponge that talks, it doesn't need a sexual orientation straight, gay or otherwise.

The responses were interesting. The guy is measured, polite, and trying to have an open dialogue and he's met with righteous indignation.

In comment 14084583 jcn56 said:

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In comment 14084496 j_rud said: Quote: In comment 14084432 Pete in 'Vliet said: Quote: is how pissed off Frank Oz is about it. Frank's Twitter - ( New Window ) You took that to be "pissed off"? I actually thought that was a great reply by Oz. It's the same thing I said when Spongebob Squarepants went under attack by religious groups way back when. Nobody ever specifically mentions his sexual orientation in the cartoon, and really - why the fuck would they? It's a fucking cartoon sponge that talks, it doesn't need a sexual orientation straight, gay or otherwise.

Okay but to be fair, it's pretty evident that Spongebob and Patrick are a gay couple. I mean that is pretty evident. No doubt about that one.

Avenue Q

If they are gay, Bert needs to be immediately locked up for Pedophilia and Ernie sent for counseling.

If this is true, I really feel horrible for Ernie. All those decades of being molested by a pedophile!

WHAT KIND OF CULTURE ARE WE THAT WE SUBJECTED OUR CHILDREN TO THIS?!?!

Me myself - I'm probably fucked for life.

All those years, thinking it was perfectly normal - it's all so clear now, Bert's oppressive intolerance of that sweet little orange headed boy.

I'm going to curl up and have a long, long cry.

Bert is a hard-working, conscientious, responsible puppet who has had to endure Ernie's slovenliness, laziness, and frivolity. Bert has suffered long enough.

certainly is.

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This isn't real

Human Crowley. Who has siblings, Earth Crowley and Aura Crowley.

Great conversation points - shitty things for the children to deal with.

if you're gonna name your kid Earth, you might as well name the other two Wind and Fire

...kid's version of Oscar and Felix.

In comment 14084826 Brown_Hornet said:

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...kid's version of Oscar and Felix.

Oscar wasn't 6 years old!!!

What is wrong with you people! This is a national tragedy!

sexual orientation was never a concern of mine. They have a mentally ill homeless character who lives in trash can and another one that can't control his binge-eating habit. Sesame Street has bigger issues to deal with.

the agoraphobe who nobody ever sees??

In comment 14084880 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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the agoraphobe who nobody ever sees??

Is he even real or a hallucination of the non-binary, possibly also mentally ill bird?

I think it is one for the eccentric guy in the cape who has an Aspberger's-like obsession with numbers to answer.

of those foreigners (Romanian, I assume) who we don't let in the country anymore.