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This Shurmur interview with Francesa is a disaster

SicilianGMEN : 9/18/2018 5:11 pm
He's live right now with Francesa and so many non-answers and this is very awkward, can't really transcribe right now but it's reminding me a little of McAdoo interviews last season.....not a good feeling
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the importance some people place on fucking INTERVIEWS is hilarious  
Greg from LI : 9/18/2018 5:14 pm : link
Criticize what happens in games? Absolutely. Get worried because of what he says in an interview with Shamoo?? Why?
He sounds defeated  
nyjuggernaut2 : 9/18/2018 5:14 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 9/18/2018 5:15 pm : link
This is why I said the Dallas game was a must win. Because this is what's going to happen now. Things are going to start spiraling completely out of control very quickly.

This team needed an early season win in the worst way. And if they still can't get it Sunday, this season is going to get very ugly.
RE: the importance some people place on fucking INTERVIEWS is hilarious  
nyjuggernaut2 : 9/18/2018 5:16 pm : link
In comment 14084149 Greg from LI said:
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Criticize what happens in games? Absolutely. Get worried because of what he says in an interview with Shamoo?? Why?


I understand your point Greg, but it's his tone throughout the whole interview. He sounds like a guy who just had to put his dog down.
My goodness  
gmen9892 : 9/18/2018 5:17 pm : link
This is not going well. He was never going to be much of a talker, but sheeesh.
Awful  
MattHofstra : 9/18/2018 5:18 pm : link
This is awkward, bizarre and Shurmur is giving people absolutely zero insight right now. No one expects him to throw anyone under the bus but hes not elaborating on anything at all and sounds bothered to have to be talking about anything .
RE: .  
mrvax : 9/18/2018 5:19 pm : link
In comment 14084152 arcarsenal said:
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This is why I said the Dallas game was a must win. Because this is what's going to happen now. Things are going to start spiraling completely out of control very quickly.

This team needed an early season win in the worst way. And if they still can't get it Sunday, this season is going to get very ugly.


I agree. A win last Sunday and BBI would have flipped 180.
Compared Shurmur to Kotite  
regulator : 9/18/2018 5:20 pm : link
wow! Francesa wasting no time...
I just flipped it on - man, it's brutal.  
bceagle05 : 9/18/2018 5:20 pm : link
He hasn't inspired much confidence to this point.
Shurmur thought they moved the ball well  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/18/2018 5:20 pm : link
Francesa then countered by asking "When?"

Shurmur wouldn't give an answer.

One exchange (paraphrasing)

Francesa: "The fans are trying to figure this out. Why are you guys 30th in yards per play?"

Shurmur: "We just have to get better."

??

With more losses, this is only going to get worse.
The criticism of McAdoo's press conferences was moronic,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/18/2018 5:21 pm : link
yet many fed into that horseshit. I watched Shurmur after the game Sunday Night and I don't know how anyone could feel good about that if they were so hung up on McAdoo's pressers.
Wow  
jtfuoco : 9/18/2018 5:22 pm : link
That was a bad interview and we are only 2 games into this regime
We've heard guys sound like that before  
Go Terps : 9/18/2018 5:22 pm : link
Not good. Not good.
If only..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/18/2018 5:23 pm : link
he gave entertaining press conferences and interviews like Gruden!!
Anyone have a link?  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/18/2018 5:23 pm : link
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RE: Awful  
Greg from LI : 9/18/2018 5:23 pm : link
In comment 14084158 MattHofstra said:
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This is awkward, bizarre and Shurmur is giving people absolutely zero insight right now.


Is giving the fat pig "insight" in an interview going to help the Giants play better? No? Then who gives a shit?
You have to question if Shurmur understands talent too  
giantstock : 9/18/2018 5:23 pm : link
As I posted on another thread. He like DG was clueless how bad this OL is. Trading Jones was comical too. But the fact he was on board with the RB and didn't even think much of Darnold makes you wonder. Not saying he is incompetent but let's be honest this OL most of us thought wasn't going to be any good.

AND DG and Shurmur were not impressed with Darnold. Hopefully this is just minor growing pains.
That was painful...  
bw in dc : 9/18/2018 5:24 pm : link
It sounded like a hostage tape.
I haven't listened yet.  
Mr. Bungle : 9/18/2018 5:25 pm : link
How close would you say it was to...say...Bob Costas interviewing Jerry Sandusky?
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arcarsenal : 9/18/2018 5:25 pm : link
It's probably the realization that between the OL and QB play, he's not going to be able to fix this thing anytime soon and he's in for a really long year of this. I'm guessing he didn't have a ton of say in the matter.

This team is in trouble. And if they fall to 0-3, all bets are really off.
RE: I haven't listened yet.  
bw in dc : 9/18/2018 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14084178 Mr. Bungle said:
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How close would you say it was to...say...Bob Costas interviewing Jerry Sandusky?


It sounded more like Brett Kavanaugh trying to answer questions about his views on abortion.
Yeah NY reporters will  
Les in TO : 9/18/2018 5:28 pm : link
Call him out on his evasive answers and flat out lies like his answer to the third down throws short of the sticks yesterday.
Honestly what do people expect?  
nygiants16 : 9/18/2018 5:28 pm : link
you think he was going to come in and just be a ball of information?

Did you think he was going to come on and rip into the team and say jow the line sucks and the quarterback sucks?


remember the media hated coughlin to qhen he first got here, hell the players did not like him either
RE: That was painful...  
VinegarPeppers : 9/18/2018 5:28 pm : link
That was the voice of a coach who looks at his OL, sees they're not getting it done because they lack talent, and understands that NO coach in the league has an answer for this.

Why has Solder collapsed? Hernandez looked beastly. Omameh started for an AFC Championship game team. We know Flowers has nothing.


In comment 14084177 bw in dc said:
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It sounded like a hostage tape.
Sadly..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/18/2018 5:29 pm : link
you will certainly have BBI'ers from this point forward use this press conference as "evidence" that he sucks as a coach.

Book it.
RE: If only..  
nyjuggernaut2 : 9/18/2018 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14084172 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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he gave entertaining press conferences and interviews like Gruden!!


No, but displaying some confidence right now would've been nice. Giants have 3 wins in their last 20 games, last thing we need is for the leader of the team to sound defeated. Doesn't provide much hope to an already dismal situation.
RE: RE: I haven't listened yet.  
VinegarPeppers : 9/18/2018 5:29 pm : link
So this is permitted now? Or are you just better than the rest of us?


In comment 14084182 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14084178 Mr. Bungle said:


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How close would you say it was to...say...Bob Costas interviewing Jerry Sandusky?



It sounded more like Brett Kavanaugh trying to answer questions about his views on abortion.
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/18/2018 5:30 pm : link
and I guess one fuckstick isn't wasting any time:

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Yeah NY reporters will
Les in TO : 5:28 pm : link : reply
Call him out on his evasive answers and flat out lies like his answer to the third down throws short of the sticks yesterday.
I never listen to these nonsense interviews  
arniefez : 9/18/2018 5:30 pm : link
the players and coaches are just trying not to get trapped into saying something that will blow up in their faces. There's no news or anything worth listening to or discussing.

But I do think the loss last week was more than just another loss where you say onto Houston. The Giants were shattered in that game. Eli got old in the ring for you old boxing fans and the new coaching staff got completely undressed.

Any Giant fan that doesn't think this franchise is in full crisis mode is fooling themselves. Last weeks game might be the only meaningful game the Giants will play to until 2019 if they lose again this week. If they're 1-4 or 0-5 when they play the Eagles it will have been.
RE: Sadly..  
nyjuggernaut2 : 9/18/2018 5:31 pm : link
In comment 14084188 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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you will certainly have BBI'ers from this point forward use this press conference as "evidence" that he sucks as a coach.

Book it.


No, but he does sound like a coach who is searching for answers right now. To me that's alarming.
I haven't listened to it, but I get the idea...  
Milton : 9/18/2018 5:31 pm : link
Sounds like he is choosing non-answers over confrontational answers, which makes sense. Too soon to be getting into a back and forth with the media. He gets that they have a job to do, but he has problems of his own.

What's important isn't how he sounds to the media, what's important is how he sounds to the players. It's to the players that he needs to have answers, not the fans.
Can't read too much into an interview, nor can you project anything  
regulator : 9/18/2018 5:31 pm : link
from it, but that was pretty bad.

Francesa did not hold back and Shurmur wasn't giving much, but did it in a very soft-spoken manner, which I guess is not the sort of rah-rah, confidence-inspiring response people probably would react better to.
Just what do you  
section125 : 9/18/2018 5:32 pm : link
want him to say? Do you want him to throw people under the bus? Can just see it - Well Omameh and Flowers can't block and pick up stunts...Solder is an over paid average LT...Eli is shell shocked, cant throw an accurate short pass...Ogletree can't cover RBs and slot receivers....???

Is that what you want?

The fascination with driving a coach into the ground after two games is pathetic. Two weeks ago, he was refreshing and open; now he is at a loss for words, or incompetent.
RE: I haven't listened yet.  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/18/2018 5:33 pm : link
In comment 14084178 Mr. Bungle said:
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How close would you say it was to...say...Bob Costas interviewing Jerry Sandusky?


It wasn't that bad. The questions were very reasonable. Nothing that was unfair or outrageous.

That was incredibly awkward  
jcn56 : 9/18/2018 5:33 pm : link
I just happened to be in the car for 5 minutes as that was getting started - Francesa correctly compared it to having a tooth pulled at the dentist.

Not that his ability to interview is any indication of what kind of coach he is - but given that's a part of the job, that did not go well at all, and it's somewhat concerning.
Mike's thought  
blueblood'11 : 9/18/2018 5:33 pm : link
Bottom line Mike makes the point we all really want to know. I don't always agree with Mike but hit the nail on the head for me. This team is as loaded as any team in the entire NFL with not one not two but three guys who can take it to the house on any given play yet teams don't seem to be intimidated at their production in the least and is the worse in the league.
RE: RE: RE: I haven't listened yet.  
bw in dc : 9/18/2018 5:34 pm : link
In comment 14084191 VinegarPeppers said:
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It sounded more like Brett Kavanaugh trying to answer questions about his views on abortion.



Oh brother. I was just trying to give a current example of someone struggling with answers and being evasive. It was meant in a lighthearted way.

If it makes you feel better, run to the BBI content police and report me. Guilty.

RE: RE: RE: I haven't listened yet.  
steve in ky : 9/18/2018 5:34 pm : link
In comment 14084191 VinegarPeppers said:
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So this is permitted now? Or are you just better than the rest of us?


In comment 14084182 bw in dc said:


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In comment 14084178 Mr. Bungle said:


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How close would you say it was to...say...Bob Costas interviewing Jerry Sandusky?



It sounded more like Brett Kavanaugh trying to answer questions about his views on abortion.



It's people whining like this about any hint of a political comment that created the atmosphere where Eric was motivated to ban them entirely in the first place.

Did bw's joke really bother you that much?
RE: Just what do you  
jcn56 : 9/18/2018 5:34 pm : link
In comment 14084200 section125 said:
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want him to say? Do you want him to throw people under the bus? Can just see it - Well Omameh and Flowers can't block and pick up stunts...Solder is an over paid average LT...Eli is shell shocked, cant throw an accurate short pass...Ogletree can't cover RBs and slot receivers....???

Is that what you want?

The fascination with driving a coach into the ground after two games is pathetic. Two weeks ago, he was refreshing and open; now he is at a loss for words, or incompetent.


I don't think he had to go that route - but he was so vanilla, he basically limited himself to 'we need to get better'.

There's a lot of ground in between 'couldn't do anything because my linemen are garbage' and 'we just need to execute better'. Shit, he could have fallen on the sword himself and blamed himself and come up with a couple of things he would do differently if he wanted to deflect.
some coaxhes just do not like to give anything  
nygiants16 : 9/18/2018 5:37 pm : link
doesnt mean behind the scenes he is not instilling confidence...

The next time I hear an interview with a head coach  
Hsilwek92 : 9/18/2018 5:41 pm : link
of any sport that mattered one iota will be the first.

Grasping at straws here people.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/18/2018 5:42 pm : link

Tom Rock
‏Verified account @TomRock_Newsday
8m8 minutes ago

If Pat Shurmur cant say something nice about a player, he wont say anything at all. Publicly. Some guys are like that.

The problem is when he lacks honesty and answers in front of the team, not when he does it on the radio or at press conferences.
RE: Awful  
Hsilwek92 : 9/18/2018 5:44 pm : link
In comment 14084158 MattHofstra said:
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This is awkward, bizarre and Shurmur is giving people absolutely zero insight right now. No one expects him to throw anyone under the bus but hes not elaborating on anything at all and sounds bothered to have to be talking about anything .


Hmm. Kinda sounds like EVERY BB press conference ever.

And spare me the bullshit argument of BB earning the right to do so. He was a gruff, short answered ass from the beginning.
When you start getting players  
nygiants16 : 9/18/2018 5:44 pm : link
talking in the media negatively or not showing up then i will be worried...

right now yiu got beckham, collins, ogletree and snacks all posting on social media that they are working to fix this and will make it right...

RE: ...  
nygiants16 : 9/18/2018 5:44 pm : link
In comment 14084225 Eric from BBI said:
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Tom Rock
‏Verified account @TomRock_Newsday
8m8 minutes ago

If Pat Shurmur cant say something nice about a player, he wont say anything at all. Publicly. Some guys are like that.

The problem is when he lacks honesty and answers in front of the team, not when he does it on the radio or at press conferences.


but but but the beat writers are going to kill him
How is he supposed to say  
ij_reilly : 9/18/2018 5:45 pm : link
Were all fucked because the offensive line is shit.

We all know thats the bottom line.

The rest is just filler.
Those who were streaming the video  
GiantsUA : 9/18/2018 5:46 pm : link
What was Shurmur wearing? Suit? Did it fit?

His choice of clothing may mean something significant
Parcells  
Archer : 9/18/2018 5:47 pm : link
I remember Bill Parcells being interviewed in his first year after a particularly bad game .

I was impressed when he said that the team played awful but that the coaching staff knew what was wrong and that it would be corrected.

He guaranteed that there would be improvement and that players who did not proscribe to his expectations would be gone

There are times when coaches have to assign accountability

Hey  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/18/2018 5:47 pm : link
I was the first guy to call him milquetoast when we hired him, but what do you expect him to say? He's a former offensive lineman. He knows what the problem is. There is no magic bullet to fix it. The players we have aren't very good up front.
RE: I never listen to these nonsense interviews  
Dan in the Springs : 9/18/2018 5:47 pm : link
In comment 14084193 arniefez said:
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Last weeks game might be the only meaningful game the Giants will play to until 2019 if they lose again this week. If they're 1-4 or 0-5 when they play the Eagles it will have been.


Wait, if they lose next week's game then last week's game will be the only one that matters? Does this game matter? If not, why preface your statement with if? Also, what about the other three games that must be played to get to 1-4 or 0-5?
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