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EricJ : 9/19/2018 8:00 am
In a standard league, I grabbed Martavis Bryant a few weeks ago thinking it could produce in Gruden's offense. Now, he is playing on suspension appeal and did not do much the past few weeks.

I have an opportunity to drop him and pickup Calvin Ridley on waivers. I know the kid made one play last weekend but I have not been paying close attention to his situation.

Thoughts?
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Pick up Ridley  
Jints in Carolina : 9/19/2018 8:10 am : link
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Took a chance and am streaming Browns DST vs Jets  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/19/2018 8:12 am : link
Don't like Thursday games but the my other D is Chargers vs Rams and Cleveland has had two 10+ point weeks vs PIT and NO.
RE: Took a chance and am streaming Browns DST vs Jets  
Jints in Carolina : 9/19/2018 8:17 am : link
In comment 14084661 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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Don't like Thursday games but the my other D is Chargers vs Rams and Cleveland has had two 10+ point weeks vs PIT and NO.


I'd still roll with the Browns....that D seems legit.
Today is Wednesday  
mac attack : 9/19/2018 8:19 am : link
FYI
Dropped Jonnu Smith for Austin Hooper. Someone else dropped Njoku.  
Heisenberg : 9/19/2018 8:21 am : link
I should drop Hooper for Njoku, right?
RE: Dropped Jonnu Smith for Austin Hooper. Someone else dropped Njoku.  
robbieballs2003 : 9/19/2018 8:45 am : link
In comment 14084669 Heisenberg said:
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I should drop Hooper for Njoku, right?


I dont like Hooper. You have to give Jonnu Smith a chance. Last week their OL was banged up and Gabbert was starting. When things settld down he should be a decent part of that offense. They need another weapon on that offense. I think Davis has more targets than everybody else combined or something like that.

I also like Njoku way more than Hooper as well. Cleveland was thrown a curveball last week. The news on Josh Gordon came out very late. They need more in the pass game and I think Njoku will be a part of that moving forward. Hue Jackson said they need to get Duke Johnson more involved in the pass game but I heard him say that shit all last year with Crowell and it never materialized. So, look for Njoku to be more involved especially in the red zone.

I personally think once Smith really gets acclimated into that offense that he will see a bunch of targets. Njoku will be a better player in terms of red zone targets. But, I would take both over Hooper.
Grab Ridley  
Motley Two : 9/19/2018 8:46 am : link
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Ridley is the play  
dep026 : 9/19/2018 8:50 am : link
My decision is terrible. I dont have a number 2 running back.

My options for this week are....

R. Freeman at Baltimore
Austin Ekeler at Rams
Alfred Morris vs KC
Cohen at Arizona

Pick up Clement vs Indy
Oh and Kerryon Johnson  
dep026 : 9/19/2018 8:51 am : link
vs. NE
RE: Ridley is the play  
Jints in Carolina : 9/19/2018 8:52 am : link
In comment 14084698 dep026 said:
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My decision is terrible. I dont have a number 2 running back.

My options for this week are....

R. Freeman at Baltimore
Austin Ekeler at Rams
Alfred Morris vs KC
Cohen at Arizona

Pick up Clement vs Indy


I'd roll with Alfred Morris. KC defense has not been good.
RE: Ridley is the play  
robbieballs2003 : 9/19/2018 8:56 am : link
In comment 14084698 dep026 said:
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My decision is terrible. I dont have a number 2 running back.

My options for this week are....

R. Freeman at Baltimore
Austin Ekeler at Rams
Alfred Morris vs KC
Cohen at Arizona

Pick up Clement vs Indy


Ekeler might be a sneaky play. Clement probably should be added with Ajayi possibly out and Wentz coming back.
RE: Ridley is the play  
YAJ2112 : 9/19/2018 8:58 am : link
In comment 14084698 dep026 said:
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My decision is terrible. I dont have a number 2 running back.

My options for this week are....

R. Freeman at Baltimore
Austin Ekeler at Rams
Alfred Morris vs KC
Cohen at Arizona

Pick up Clement vs Indy


I'd rank them
Freeman
Clement


Morris

Ekeler





Cohen
gah  
YAJ2112 : 9/19/2018 8:59 am : link
and I'd put Kerryon between Clement and Morris
RE: RE: Ridley is the play  
robbieballs2003 : 9/19/2018 9:00 am : link
In comment 14084710 YAJ2112 said:
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In comment 14084698 dep026 said:


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My decision is terrible. I dont have a number 2 running back.

My options for this week are....

R. Freeman at Baltimore
Austin Ekeler at Rams
Alfred Morris vs KC
Cohen at Arizona

Pick up Clement vs Indy



I'd rank them
Freeman
Clement


Morris

Ekeler





Cohen


Isn't Freeman out at least 2 more weeks?
Better WR to own in a 14 team PPR  
jlukes : 9/19/2018 9:03 am : link
Allison or Ridley?
RE: RE: RE: Ridley is the play  
YAJ2112 : 9/19/2018 9:03 am : link
In comment 14084713 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 14084710 YAJ2112 said:


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In comment 14084698 dep026 said:


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My decision is terrible. I dont have a number 2 running back.

My options for this week are....

R. Freeman at Baltimore
Austin Ekeler at Rams
Alfred Morris vs KC
Cohen at Arizona

Pick up Clement vs Indy



I'd rank them
Freeman
Clement


Morris

Ekeler





Cohen



Isn't Freeman out at least 2 more weeks?


Devonta is yes, he has Royce though.
Oh, duh. My bad although I disagree with those rankings.  
robbieballs2003 : 9/19/2018 9:09 am : link
For this week there is no way Freeman can be that high. He had like 12 snaps or something last week.

Ekeler was used a lot in the first game. I don't know about the second game. If the Rams have a weakness it is their run defense. But if this game gets out of hand I can see Ekeler catching a ton of dumpoffs.

Kerryon Johnson is not worth starting until Detroit gives him a bigger workload.

Clement could be the starter this week on one of the best running teams last year.

Morris looks like he is slowly losing out to Breida so Morris may just be TD dependent but there is a decent chance he gets one this week.

Clement (if Ajayi is out)/Ekeler
Morris
Johnson
Freeman

Did I miss someone?
My thoughts  
allstarjim : 9/19/2018 9:20 am : link
EricJ - I would also drop Bryant for Ridley.

Bobby Humphrey's Earpad - Brown's Defense is going to be a good one to own this year. I also picked them up, dropped Houston's DEF. And I think they are a great play this week.

On Jonnu Smith - really disconcerting he didn't get a single target. He will rebound, but Luke Stocker is getting a couple of looks also in that offense. I recommended Smith last week after Walker got hurt. But, if you have a shot at Njoku, I'd get him, I like him over Smith the rest of the way as well as Hooper. Hooper is a low-end TE2 in deep leagues. Njoku is a TE2 right now but he has significant upside still, imo, and even more so if Mayfield takes over.

dep026 - I'd pick up Clement. Ajayi is not going to play, Sproles is unlikely to play. Clement is probably their best, most complete back anyway. I also would play Alfred Morris. I have a strong feeling that the Niners are going to want to play some ball control offense against KC at least early, leading to a favorable gameplan for Mr. Morris. I do think Kerryon Johnson is going to take over that backfield very soon, however, but the only way I play him this week is if Blount is out. I would avoid anyone playing LAR DEF.

Better WR to own in a 14 team PPR for Jlukes - Geronimo Allison is the guy to own if you need some production right now from the position. Ridley is the guy if you are looking for a homerun, want the upside, and can afford to wait and stash.
Kerryon Johnson  
pjcas18 : 9/19/2018 9:21 am : link
waived in my keeper league, where I have significant RB issues, worth picking up?

I have players to drop.
RE: Kerryon Johnson  
YAJ2112 : 9/19/2018 9:22 am : link
In comment 14084750 pjcas18 said:
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waived in my keeper league, where I have significant RB issues, worth picking up?

I have players to drop.


absolutely.
RE: My thoughts  
pjcas18 : 9/19/2018 9:22 am : link
In comment 14084748 allstarjim said:
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EricJ - I would also drop Bryant for Ridley.

Bobby Humphrey's Earpad - Brown's Defense is going to be a good one to own this year. I also picked them up, dropped Houston's DEF. And I think they are a great play this week.

On Jonnu Smith - really disconcerting he didn't get a single target. He will rebound, but Luke Stocker is getting a couple of looks also in that offense. I recommended Smith last week after Walker got hurt. But, if you have a shot at Njoku, I'd get him, I like him over Smith the rest of the way as well as Hooper. Hooper is a low-end TE2 in deep leagues. Njoku is a TE2 right now but he has significant upside still, imo, and even more so if Mayfield takes over.

dep026 - I'd pick up Clement. Ajayi is not going to play, Sproles is unlikely to play. Clement is probably their best, most complete back anyway. I also would play Alfred Morris. I have a strong feeling that the Niners are going to want to play some ball control offense against KC at least early, leading to a favorable gameplan for Mr. Morris. I do think Kerryon Johnson is going to take over that backfield very soon, however, but the only way I play him this week is if Blount is out. I would avoid anyone playing LAR DEF.

Better WR to own in a 14 team PPR for Jlukes - Geronimo Allison is the guy to own if you need some production right now from the position. Ridley is the guy if you are looking for a homerun, want the upside, and can afford to wait and stash.


Not sure CLE D is a better play than HOU D this week. Jets offense looked better than NYG.

rest I agree with
RE: Kerryon Johnson  
allstarjim : 9/19/2018 9:26 am : link
In comment 14084750 pjcas18 said:
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waived in my keeper league, where I have significant RB issues, worth picking up?

I have players to drop.


Snatch him up.
If I pick up Clement  
dep026 : 9/19/2018 9:30 am : link
is Cohen the obvious drop of the RBs I mentioned?
RE: RE: My thoughts  
allstarjim : 9/19/2018 9:30 am : link
In comment 14084754 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14084748 allstarjim said:


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EricJ - I would also drop Bryant for Ridley.

Bobby Humphrey's Earpad - Brown's Defense is going to be a good one to own this year. I also picked them up, dropped Houston's DEF. And I think they are a great play this week.

On Jonnu Smith - really disconcerting he didn't get a single target. He will rebound, but Luke Stocker is getting a couple of looks also in that offense. I recommended Smith last week after Walker got hurt. But, if you have a shot at Njoku, I'd get him, I like him over Smith the rest of the way as well as Hooper. Hooper is a low-end TE2 in deep leagues. Njoku is a TE2 right now but he has significant upside still, imo, and even more so if Mayfield takes over.

dep026 - I'd pick up Clement. Ajayi is not going to play, Sproles is unlikely to play. Clement is probably their best, most complete back anyway. I also would play Alfred Morris. I have a strong feeling that the Niners are going to want to play some ball control offense against KC at least early, leading to a favorable gameplan for Mr. Morris. I do think Kerryon Johnson is going to take over that backfield very soon, however, but the only way I play him this week is if Blount is out. I would avoid anyone playing LAR DEF.

Better WR to own in a 14 team PPR for Jlukes - Geronimo Allison is the guy to own if you need some production right now from the position. Ridley is the guy if you are looking for a homerun, want the upside, and can afford to wait and stash.



Not sure CLE D is a better play than HOU D this week. Jets offense looked better than NYG.

rest I agree with


We'll see. There are issues with Houston and the Jets still have a rookie QB who is playing on a short week. I always feel short weeks favor the defense. Garrett is a monster. Cleveland with 7 sacks already, and 3 INTs...they are 5th in sacks in the NFL thus far. And I know it's 2 games, but taking Cleveland this week isn't just about matchup, it's about the rest of the way. I think they are going to be a legit defense.
RE: If I pick up Clement  
allstarjim : 9/19/2018 9:31 am : link
In comment 14084771 dep026 said:
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is Cohen the obvious drop of the RBs I mentioned?


Yes.
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arcarsenal : 9/19/2018 9:33 am : link
Have a big of a logjam @ WR in one league.

Starting Adams @ WR1 so that spot is covered.

Between WR2, WR3 and a flex spot I have these guys...

Corey Davis @ JAX
Quincy Enunwa @ CLE
Keelan Cole v TEN
Josh Gordon @ DET
Marquise Goodwin @ KC
Antonio Callaway vs NYJ

I can also just pick two of those and Flex James White.

Leaning away from Davis because of the matchup and QB situation. I think I'm definitely going to use Cole.

I want to use Goodwin but it depends on his leg.

Probably have to wait and see on Gordon's role before staring him.

Enunwa is getting a pretty big target share and appears to be Darnold's guy - so I like him too.

Callaway may be risky - but targets are open there now that Gordon is gone and he's better than Higgins.

Tough call.
RE: RE: If I pick up Clement  
YAJ2112 : 9/19/2018 9:34 am : link
In comment 14084776 allstarjim said:
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In comment 14084771 dep026 said:


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is Cohen the obvious drop of the RBs I mentioned?



Yes.


yep.
Welp  
dep026 : 9/19/2018 9:37 am : link
now I got Clement. I have 3 eagles on my squad. Wentz, Jeffrey, Clement.

I dont like that. Makes me feel dirty.
RE: .  
YAJ2112 : 9/19/2018 9:37 am : link
In comment 14084780 arcarsenal said:
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Have a big of a logjam @ WR in one league.

Starting Adams @ WR1 so that spot is covered.

Between WR2, WR3 and a flex spot I have these guys...

Corey Davis @ JAX
Quincy Enunwa @ CLE
Keelan Cole v TEN
Josh Gordon @ DET
Marquise Goodwin @ KC
Antonio Callaway vs NYJ

I can also just pick two of those and Flex James White.

Leaning away from Davis because of the matchup and QB situation. I think I'm definitely going to use Cole.

I want to use Goodwin but it depends on his leg.

Probably have to wait and see on Gordon's role before staring him.

Enunwa is getting a pretty big target share and appears to be Darnold's guy - so I like him too.

Callaway may be risky - but targets are open there now that Gordon is gone and he's better than Higgins.

Tough call.


Cole for sure. White in the flex for me.

I'd want a healthy Goodwin vs KC as my other. To do that, you have to be willing to go with either Gordon or Davis. If you don't feel good about that then go Enunwa.
Arc  
dep026 : 9/19/2018 9:38 am : link
Cole
Enunwa
Godwin.

I think he plays and against a bad Pitt secondary.
Whoops its goodwin  
dep026 : 9/19/2018 9:38 am : link
nevermind. Go with White.
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 9/19/2018 9:42 am : link
In comment 14084789 YAJ2112 said:
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In comment 14084780 arcarsenal said:


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Have a big of a logjam @ WR in one league.

Starting Adams @ WR1 so that spot is covered.

Between WR2, WR3 and a flex spot I have these guys...

Corey Davis @ JAX
Quincy Enunwa @ CLE
Keelan Cole v TEN
Josh Gordon @ DET
Marquise Goodwin @ KC
Antonio Callaway vs NYJ

I can also just pick two of those and Flex James White.

Leaning away from Davis because of the matchup and QB situation. I think I'm definitely going to use Cole.

I want to use Goodwin but it depends on his leg.

Probably have to wait and see on Gordon's role before staring him.

Enunwa is getting a pretty big target share and appears to be Darnold's guy - so I like him too.

Callaway may be risky - but targets are open there now that Gordon is gone and he's better than Higgins.

Tough call.



Cole for sure. White in the flex for me.

I'd want a healthy Goodwin vs KC as my other. To do that, you have to be willing to go with either Gordon or Davis. If you don't feel good about that then go Enunwa.


That's pretty much where I'm leaning. I hate using TNF players if I can avoid it but Enunwa seems pretty safe right now because Darnold is looking his way so often but I'd rather use Goodwin if I knew he was all systems go.

I actually just dropped Cohen for Clement. Cohen doesn't seem to have much of any role in that offense right now.
With Cohen  
YAJ2112 : 9/19/2018 9:49 am : link
I think it was assumed that he would get used in somewhat of a Tyreek Hill role. Looks like that's going to be Taylor Gabriel instead.
RE: RE: RE: .  
dep026 : 9/19/2018 9:49 am : link
In comment 14084804 arcarsenal said:
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I actually just dropped Cohen for Clement. Cohen doesn't seem to have much of any role in that offense right now.


There goes being one of the most best offensive weapons in the league with his barry sanders-esque moves.
RE: RE: RE: RE: .  
pjcas18 : 9/19/2018 9:51 am : link
In comment 14084818 dep026 said:
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In comment 14084804 arcarsenal said:


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I actually just dropped Cohen for Clement. Cohen doesn't seem to have much of any role in that offense right now.



There goes being one of the most best offensive weapons in the league with his barry sanders-esque moves.


he's a threat to take it to the house every time he gets the ball in his hands. LOL.

Here is another scenario guys...  
EricJ : 9/19/2018 10:18 am : link
in the same standard league, I have Kittle as my TE. Someone just dropped Engram. I have no room for both. Thoughts on the choice between the two of them?
RE: Better WR to own in a 14 team PPR  
robbieballs2003 : 9/19/2018 10:25 am : link
In comment 14084719 jlukes said:
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Allison or Ridley?


Allison depending on Rodgers. Rodgers looked better but I am surprised Minnesota didn't bring more pressure.
RE: Here is another scenario guys...  
dep026 : 9/19/2018 10:28 am : link
In comment 14084881 EricJ said:
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in the same standard league, I have Kittle as my TE. Someone just dropped Engram. I have no room for both. Thoughts on the choice between the two of them?


Engram hands down. The Giants will be throwing a lot this year and I am going to throw out the first two games.
RE: Here is another scenario guys...  
robbieballs2003 : 9/19/2018 10:30 am : link
In comment 14084881 EricJ said:
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in the same standard league, I have Kittle as my TE. Someone just dropped Engram. I have no room for both. Thoughts on the choice between the two of them?


Engram without question
RE: RE: Here is another scenario guys...  
EricJ : 9/19/2018 10:43 am : link
In comment 14084910 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 14084881 EricJ said:


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in the same standard league, I have Kittle as my TE. Someone just dropped Engram. I have no room for both. Thoughts on the choice between the two of them?



Engram without question


I was questioning this because apparently Kittle has become Jimmy G's favorite target while Eli... who knows.
Who else is on your team?  
robbieballs2003 : 9/19/2018 10:46 am : link
TE is very weak so if Kittle can keep up his target share then he would be a trading chip. Why can't you roster both?
Surprised Engram was dropped  
pjcas18 : 9/19/2018 10:48 am : link
agree with Robbie, both Engram and Kittle are viable TE options.

.  
allstarjim : 9/19/2018 11:01 am : link
arc - Definitely avoid Davis this week. I also avoid Corey Davis against Jax. It doesn't matter if he draws Bouye or Jalen Ramsey, I don't like that matchup at all for Davis. You can't rely on Gordon this week being he just got into the building and if he gets any snaps they are likely to be a low number. I really like Keelan Cole vs Ten. Cole is clearly the #1 for Bortles, and he really showed up against the Patriots and looked like a big-time receiver. I would play him and Enunwa, who is the Jets #1 and getting double digit targets from Darnold. In fact, I think Enunwa is approaching must start territory for most fantasy teams if he gets another good week on Cleveland.

EricJ - I think for your Kittle conundrum...I would slow down and take that week to week. You may lose out on Engram but I think Kittle is a very strong play this week against KC, and I like Kittle's role in the offense, as well as the 49er's overall offensive efficiency, better than Engram and the Giants. I think there is a good chance Kittle finishes a TE1 this year and Engram drops to #11-15 type of range at the position. I definitely love Kittle much more than Engram this week.
Trade  
allstarjim : 9/19/2018 11:02 am : link
Team 1 gets:

David Johnson and Robert Woods

Team 2 gets:

Saquon Barkley

Who wins?
RE: Trade  
dep026 : 9/19/2018 11:04 am : link
In comment 14084962 allstarjim said:
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Team 1 gets:

David Johnson and Robert Woods

Team 2 gets:

Saquon Barkley

Who wins?


1. Woods is a viable threat for a flex spot. Johnson and Barkley may wash each other out since they are on bad teams.
RE: Trade  
robbieballs2003 : 9/19/2018 11:08 am : link
In comment 14084962 allstarjim said:
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Team 1 gets:

David Johnson and Robert Woods

Team 2 gets:

Saquon Barkley

Who wins?


Give me Barkley all day. I am a big DJ fan but that offense is just so bad (as is ours). They cannot get DJ going and his whole career he was under a great offensive mind in Arians. Now? Ugh. Give me Barkley. I get Woods is in the deal. Give me Barkley. Did I say give me Barkley? I have DJ in a couple of leagues too. Ugh.
I'm going for Barkley  
allstarjim : 9/19/2018 11:16 am : link
It's a keeper league as well, we'll see what happens. I should've offered DJ for Barkley right after the draft. It was a bad mistake I didn't.

I had DJ as a keeper and Barkley went #1 overall.
RE: Trade  
arcarsenal : 9/19/2018 11:23 am : link
In comment 14084962 allstarjim said:
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Team 1 gets:

David Johnson and Robert Woods

Team 2 gets:

Saquon Barkley

Who wins?


I would take Barkley.

Woods is the type of WR who you can flex most weeks but he's also a guy you can usually find a replacement for without too much trouble.

I'm thinking DJ may have a tough year there. The Cards offense is really, really bad. It is definitely as bad as ours.

Between the targets, rushing ability and the fact that he's going to manage to get into the endzone here and there, I would prefer to have Barkley. I think he's a sure-fire RB1 every single time he's out there.

Just a bit wary of DJ this year... even though it wasn't a leg injury, it's not always easy for players to be the same after missing an entire season.
We'll see if he goes for it  
allstarjim : 9/19/2018 11:27 am : link
I'm thinking he is going to ask for more. I'm actually considering sending both DJ AND Jarvis Landry for Barkley. But before I do that I'm going to try and send him a 4th rounder in the deal for a 7th rounder in return to try and make it happen.

I know it's a pretty big haul to give up, but I just believe in Barkley long-term a lot more than DJ.
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arcarsenal : 9/19/2018 11:34 am : link
The fact that our OL sucks so much is actually good for Barkley's fantasy stock.

We are also seeing more and more teams start to use RB's almost entirely as WR's.

Guys like Thompson, Riddick, Duke Johnson, etc. literally don't carry the football at all.

Thompson caught 13 balls on Sunday. Riddick was targeted 12 times, I believe.

CLE hasn't been able to get Duke involved but that's usually how they use him too.

CMC just saw a 15 target game as well.

Barkley is a better runner and built to actually bang between tackles which these guys aren't. But he's going to see similar target shares as well.

Things are a changin'...
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