I watched Norwell closely on Sunday, and except for one play on which a LB (I think) just out-quicked and blew by him, he absolutely stoned his man, usually a DT.
As Jon says, the money was very high, albeit the $$ laid out for LT Solder is not looking so smart at all.
I only wonder because we're shitting on management for the line they have put together (it is terrible), but I'm trying to think of how it could have gone differently. Supposedly Norwell was our prime target and Solder was a contingency. As said above though, we probably have to look to the draft to get a tackle.
I only wonder because we're shitting on management for the line they have put together (it is terrible), but I'm trying to think of how it could have gone differently. Supposedly Norwell was our prime target and Solder was a contingency. As said above though, we probably have to look to the draft to get a tackle.
Someone asked this question in a thread last week - if they had signed Norwell, who plays LT?
things much - and minus OBJ, what would we be trotting out there at WR? There'd obviously be a cap differential to spend, but there wasn't a whole lot of talent sitting there at WR in FA.
I only wonder because we're shitting on management for the line they have put together (it is terrible), but I'm trying to think of how it could have gone differently. Supposedly Norwell was our prime target and Solder was a contingency. As said above though, we probably have to look to the draft to get a tackle.
Someone asked this question in a thread last week - if they had signed Norwell, who plays LT?
give it a rest already. I'm sure they don't like the contract they gave Solder either. Just shows HOW desperate they were to improve the line. And really this line should NOT be this bad. It looks more like coaching at this point. Their lack of recognition has been appalling.I can cut Hernandez some slack because he's coming from a small school. But Solder and Omameh looking clueless? Makes no sense.
The 5 mil we are paying Omameh and 3 million we are paying Jonathan Stewart towards Norwell. Thats 8 million dollars, Norwell is getting 13 mil a season.
Has been putting in work at OT for the Colts, at least during mini-camp he was. He seemed to me to be kind of athletic. Maybe we could have drafted him and played him at tackle. Also Connor Williams was available who played tackle in college and was projected by many to go in the 1st round.
DG and Shurmur really wanted Solder all the time to replace Flowers at the LT spot, not Norwell who is a guard. LT is tougher to fill than guard in this league, thats why it is the highest paid. We will see how it works out over time. Our problem is that Flowers is looking more and more like a complete bust at tackle on either side. Keep the faith for the first 4 games at least. MO.
give it a rest already. I'm sure they don't like the contract they gave Solder either. Just shows HOW desperate they were to improve the line. And really this line should NOT be this bad. It looks more like coaching at this point. Their lack of recognition has been appalling.I can cut Hernandez some slack because he's coming from a small school. But Solder and Omameh looking clueless? Makes no sense.
It's not about hating or liking Beckham. It's about the hard truth that we're wasting him.
all the top athletes are playing defense not OL. The talent in the league has been deleted through expansion and top OL people are harder to find. The OL coaches have to find a way to slow down these smaller but much quicker DL players who are eating the OLs alive. Technique maybe, play calling ??
If they knew the OL was a multi-year work in progress Â
then keeping Eli was a sin. You had to know he wasn't going to do well behind it, at a bare minimum. I get that the cap hit to cut him might have been unbearable, but they should have tried to work something out, both for his sake and the team's.
Beyond that, I can see what Terps means, and I'm a huge advocate of OBJ's. If the offense is going to be dysfunctional for two more years, that's a whole lot of cap money and prime of his career wasted. Of course, that puts the Barkley selection in the same light. At that point, a DE or OL might have been the best selection up high, if not trading down.
RE: If they knew the OL was a multi-year work in progress Â
then keeping Eli was a sin. You had to know he wasn't going to do well behind it, at a bare minimum. I get that the cap hit to cut him might have been unbearable, but they should have tried to work something out, both for his sake and the team's.
Beyond that, I can see what Terps means, and I'm a huge advocate of OBJ's. If the offense is going to be dysfunctional for two more years, that's a whole lot of cap money and prime of his career wasted. Of course, that puts the Barkley selection in the same light. At that point, a DE or OL might have been the best selection up high, if not trading down.
Not really.
Eli has a huge dead cap number so there was noting to gain from cutting him.
Assuming they are being honest about the Barkley / QB decision.
saying he didnt look good against us. Thats BS. He looked like a beast and I saw him kicking some serious ass in the Pats game too. Legit Alll Pro player in his prime.
Would’ve been a huge get but the T situation would be scary.
Norwell would have been a gigantic upgrade over Omameh Â
but the truth is, we'd likely be starting a rookie and Ereck Flowers at the tackles, or a journeyman in place of either, and likely be getting worse performance from the tackles than we are now.
Solder hasn't been very good, but it's hard to argue that a rookie or another one of the OTs available in draft/FA would be any better, at this point.
We really were in a horrendous situation with this OL... still are.
I’m holding out lots of hope that beyond these 2 games, our new OL will begin to mesh. If not, of course we’ll have trouble as the season heads towards completion
that the new regime addressed the line with the best FA available according to the press, again at the time. Not sure what that would have done to the rest of our FA or draft(no Omameh, no solder? no Hernandez?). The fact that JR failed so miserably at drafting or signing anyone who improved the line play even a little bit was so annoying. I mean two first rounders, a second and a few later rounds and no one stuck around after their original contract. The best of them were barely average. I am still hopeful that, despite his utterance of the stupid Hog Molly moniker, Gettleman gets it and more than that knows how to pick the 'right' OL.
As Jon says, the money was very high, albeit the $$ laid out for LT Solder is not looking so smart at all.
Lineman are going to get paid in FA regardless. It's to hard to draft good ones anymore. There are few and far between in the draft now adays.
Paying for 1 who is on the younger side is not a problem. Paying older ones who could get injured in a heart beat is though.
OG is way down the priority ladder, imv. You want to overspend on the OL, do it at LT (and I still don't love the Solder contract).
Someone asked this question in a thread last week - if they had signed Norwell, who plays LT?
That's a damn good question.
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I only wonder because we're shitting on management for the line they have put together (it is terrible), but I'm trying to think of how it could have gone differently. Supposedly Norwell was our prime target and Solder was a contingency. As said above though, we probably have to look to the draft to get a tackle.
Someone asked this question in a thread last week - if they had signed Norwell, who plays LT?
That's a damn good question.
Flowers.
It's not about hating or liking Beckham. It's about the hard truth that we're wasting him.
there is probably more conviction to keep Beckham then there is to keep Eli
Beyond that, I can see what Terps means, and I'm a huge advocate of OBJ's. If the offense is going to be dysfunctional for two more years, that's a whole lot of cap money and prime of his career wasted. Of course, that puts the Barkley selection in the same light. At that point, a DE or OL might have been the best selection up high, if not trading down.
Beyond that, I can see what Terps means, and I'm a huge advocate of OBJ's. If the offense is going to be dysfunctional for two more years, that's a whole lot of cap money and prime of his career wasted. Of course, that puts the Barkley selection in the same light. At that point, a DE or OL might have been the best selection up high, if not trading down.
Not really.
Eli has a huge dead cap number so there was noting to gain from cutting him.
Assuming they are being honest about the Barkley / QB decision.
Might as well trot him out there if he is game, which we know he is.
Would’ve been a huge get but the T situation would be scary.
Solder hasn't been very good, but it's hard to argue that a rookie or another one of the OTs available in draft/FA would be any better, at this point.
We really were in a horrendous situation with this OL... still are.
I’m holding out lots of hope that beyond these 2 games, our new OL will begin to mesh. If not, of course we’ll have trouble as the season heads towards completion
^^ Dis.
Ok, a no talent bum physically getting beat by his man I have grown accustomed too, but I don't know wtf I saw at Dallas.