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When does this team get its first win?

superspynyg : 9/19/2018 10:07 am
Looking at the schedule, Im not sure..

This week we play in Houston. JJ Watt and Clowney are going to feast on Eli. Watson has Hopkins and Fuller to throw to and we are down Apple.

Week after we play the Saints who are a good team with good weapons. Brees to Thomas, Kamara will be tough. They have a better defense also. We have no chance if they put up 25+

After that we are at Carolina. This is the game that we have the best chance to win. We have to contain Newton. They still have a good defense but we might be able to outscore them. It will not be easy though.

After Carolina its Thurs night games at home vs the Eagles with Wentz back. Wentz will have had 3 games to get back up to speed. The Eagles are not what they were last year but they are still a good team.

I say we win vs Carolina. So we will be 1-4 when we play the eagles at home on Thursday night.


Now this is just a guess. We could easily be 0-5 when we play the Eagles.

Giants will beat Houston.  
Blue21 : 9/19/2018 10:13 am : link
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I think, despite way it looks now, houston  
micky : 9/19/2018 10:13 am : link
Could be one of those times where you bvb scratch your head, "how did they win after what took place last week?"
Washington before the bye  
The_Boss : 9/19/2018 10:13 am : link
1-7. Awesome.
2019  
Harvest Blend : 9/19/2018 10:17 am : link
.
The amazing part about football  
tbonfig : 9/19/2018 10:22 am : link
is that if the Giants can suddenly keep Eli upright with him making strong throws and establishing the running game, we could have "turned it all round" and be a decent team again.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/19/2018 10:26 am : link
@ home vs. Washington on the 28th. 1-7 baby! Good times!
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Br00klyn : 9/19/2018 10:27 am : link
We have a pretty decent shot to win this weekend. should be an interesting game, both OLines are some of the worst in the league. If we get OV back that could limit what Watson can do
Saints arent scary and could be the first one  
dep026 : 9/19/2018 10:31 am : link
but I am going this week IF Vernon plays. Houston doesnt look good. Watt is still working his way back, Clowney has an injury of his own. Their OL is suspect and Watson is still working his way back.

I think this is the game where Beckham goes for 9 catches 175 yards and 2 TDs. Rosas makes 3 FGs. And Eli finds SS for a red zone TD. 30-24 Giants.

We break the 30 mark. We win a game. Eli plays well. BBI has nothing to bitch about for 1 week.

A man can dream, right?
RE: Saints arent scary and could be the first one  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/19/2018 10:33 am : link
In comment 14084914 dep026 said:
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but I am going this week IF Vernon plays. Houston doesnt look good. Watt is still working his way back, Clowney has an injury of his own. Their OL is suspect and Watson is still working his way back.

I think this is the game where Beckham goes for 9 catches 175 yards and 2 TDs. Rosas makes 3 FGs. And Eli finds SS for a red zone TD. 30-24 Giants.

We break the 30 mark. We win a game. Eli plays well. BBI has nothing to bitch about for 1 week.

A man can dream, right?


You're allowed to score more than 30 points? I didn't know that was possible.
I think they beat the Saints  
jcn56 : 9/19/2018 10:33 am : link
Not by a whole lot, but their D has looked awful, and I think ours can at least hang with their O for awhile. If we can't get anything going, that's going to end quickly. Can't keep putting the D out there with Brees.

Houston has looked pretty bad, but it's a bad matchup.
Washington  
jeff57 : 9/19/2018 10:37 am : link
Week 8
I bet over 7 wins...  
mvftw : 9/19/2018 10:38 am : link
so it better be soon...lol
I think we could  
mattyblue : 9/19/2018 10:40 am : link
beat Houston if we come up with a better game plan and catch a few breaks. The Saints always scare me and I can’t tell you why. Washington is a good bet as well. There are always games when bad teams manage to win. Hoping for a nice win this weekend so there could be some hope that things can improve.
I actually think  
ryanmkeane : 9/19/2018 10:41 am : link
at Carolina is the toughest of all of these games. How are we going to score with our OL against that D?
I think we beat  
ryanmkeane : 9/19/2018 10:41 am : link
Saints and Eagles. Outside of that, it's looking bleak.
unless something changes in terms of how the Oline functions  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/19/2018 10:41 am : link
I don't see how the Giants are going to win anything this year
RE: unless something changes in terms of how the Oline functions  
AcidTest : 9/19/2018 10:45 am : link
In comment 14084930 gidiefor said:
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I don't see how the Giants are going to win anything this year


A bit bleak, but I agree that another three win season is definitely possible if the OL doesn't improve. Right now, they can't identify and block simply stunts and blitzes, and are being handled by just four or five DL.
RE: unless something changes in terms of how the Oline functions  
bradshaw44 : 9/19/2018 10:51 am : link
In comment 14084930 gidiefor said:
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I don't see how the Giants are going to win anything this year


I agree. I also think we are going to get boat raced out of the building this weekend. Just a hunch.
RE: unless something changes in terms of how the Oline functions  
TeamSchlitz1 : 9/19/2018 11:07 am : link
In comment 14084930 gidiefor said:
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I don't see how the Giants are going to win anything this year




THIS!!!!!!
I would argue that having an inept offensive line is the worst UNIT to be bad at. We have seen plenty of teams win games with horrible "game manager" QBs, pedestrian WR/skilled players, defenses that gave up a lot of points, etc.

To win games you are going to have to succeed when the defense knows what you are doing (i.e- 2 min drill). If any other team knows we are passing, they are going to attack the right side of our line and have success getting to the qb very quickly.

I love the optimism of everyone saying, "it has only been two games, the offensive line could click." While I am hoping that is ultimately true, we just lost our starting center for the year. I think we are more likely to get worse than better as a unit (If that is even possible). And now with Solder tied down for however many years, I just do not see this getting any better ANY time soon unless we take a monster tackle in the top 5, in which case it will probably still take years before our line is average.
JJ Watt is going to feast??  
BillKo : 9/19/2018 11:16 am : link
When did he get his last sack?

I am sure Houston fans are saying the Giants are the perfect matchup at 0-2 and they'll kill us.

Hasn't every team - including us - been on that side and things don't materialize the way you expect.

Let's see what happens................I'm not ready to drape the place in black yet.
RE: Saints arent scary and could be the first one  
Boy Cord : 9/19/2018 11:17 am : link
In comment 14084914 dep026 said:
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but I am going this week IF Vernon plays. Houston doesnt look good. Watt is still working his way back, Clowney has an injury of his own. Their OL is suspect and Watson is still working his way back.

I think this is the game where Beckham goes for 9 catches 175 yards and 2 TDs. Rosas makes 3 FGs. And Eli finds SS for a red zone TD. 30-24 Giants.

We break the 30 mark. We win a game. Eli plays well. BBI has nothing to bitch about for 1 week.

A man can dream, right?


Damn. That is one acid-induced dream. Let me know how I can get some of that.

The Giants would have a better chance at scoring if they stood up five tackling dummies in front of Eli. Make that seven if you include the TEs/FBs. At least the dummies will provide some resistance and won't make any penalties.

I won't have any confidence in the Giants being able to produce an NFL-caliber effort on offense until I see it. The Giants could win, as someone mentioned the Texans' defensive stars are coming back from major injuries.

But, in the end, I see the Texans pulling this one out. 0-2 (both losses on the road) at home. Watson has been running pretty well for a guy coming off an ACL and we saw what Dak did on Sunday. The Giants offense is too dysfunctional.
turnstile OL  
UESBLUE : 9/19/2018 11:37 am : link
old immobile QB. Dont kid yourselves - the season is already over.
I did not expect them to beat Denver in Denver last season  
bceagle05 : 9/19/2018 11:39 am : link
and they did so, convincingly. They'll have a game like that one of these weeks. Eli will also have a 4TD game in November that will be used as justification for passing on more QBs in the draft.
I don't know  
Go Terps : 9/19/2018 11:43 am : link
One thing I do believe is that this team doesn't deserve any faith or benefit of the doubt.

Anyone saying "if "x" happens the Giants can win" is acting on faith, and deluding themselves.
I think we have a great shot this week...  
KingBlue : 9/19/2018 11:56 am : link
Houston is having problems of their own. We were terrible Sunday night, less terrible opening day. If we can even get marginal improvement from the OL, Ellison, and the FB, just maybe we can make a few more plays.

I am expecting a competitive game. A low scoring, competitive game. I refuse to give up on this team after two games. I like our chances this week.
If this team has any sense of pride.....  
Simms11 : 9/19/2018 11:58 am : link
They come out aggressively and get ahead. Let's see the Oline pick it up this week and give Barkley some running room. It could happen this week. If not, Shurmer will have a real tough week answering questions.
This f*cking org kicking a HoF coach's ass  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/19/2018 12:06 pm : link
To the curb, and the scumbags who cheered it on.
As soon as the Oline gets better.  
AnnapolisMike : 9/19/2018 12:10 pm : link
which is going to happen sooner rather than later.
It could be this week  
Joey in VA : 9/19/2018 12:13 pm : link
On paper we look hosed. Athletic QB, two big fast WRs, a game wrecking DE, a huge run stuffing NT, a hard nosed ILB who eats the run. How do we counter the QB when we got roasted by Prescott and Bortles on the ground when they had no passing options to speak of?

I have a tiny shred of hope that this OL just tires of looking like crap and plays way over its head and Eli comes out focused and angry. It's a tiny shred but it's there. I would not be shocked after the week this team had if they don't come out pissed off and just win.
I think Eli and the offense rebound this week  
larryflower37 : 9/19/2018 12:22 pm : link
There are a lot of veterans on offense and I hope they can lead out of this.
Plus shurmer has gotten his first taste of the NY media and has to feel his back is against the wall especially being the offensive guru.
Defense has kept them close. All the pressure falls on this offense
I think they rebound  
NikkiMac : 9/19/2018 12:28 pm : link
this week because nobody is going to give them a chance

A motivator of a coach would have a field day this week....
RE: This f*cking org kicking a HoF coach's ass  
ajr2456 : 9/19/2018 1:33 pm : link
In comment 14085058 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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To the curb, and the scumbags who cheered it on.


Said Coach was 19-29 his last three seasons.
RE: RE: This f*cking org kicking a HoF coach's ass  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/19/2018 1:37 pm : link
In comment 14085198 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 14085058 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


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To the curb, and the scumbags who cheered it on.



Said Coach was 19-29 his last three seasons.

Better than 3-16 last 19 games.
I think  
NJGiantFan84 : 9/19/2018 1:43 pm : link
we beat NO at home. They have not been impressive. I don't expect more than six wins. No team in the SB era has went from a 3 win season to winning more than 6 games the following season.
RE: RE: RE: This f*cking org kicking a HoF coach's ass  
ajr2456 : 9/19/2018 1:48 pm : link
In comment 14085206 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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In comment 14085198 ajr2456 said:


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In comment 14085058 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


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To the curb, and the scumbags who cheered it on.



Said Coach was 19-29 his last three seasons.


Better than 3-16 last 19 games.


Cool, Coughlin was fired three years ago. Get over it.

He wasn’t part of the solution, the fact that they screwed up the hire after is unrelated to whether he should have been fired.
RE: unless something changes in terms of how the Oline functions  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/19/2018 1:53 pm : link
In comment 14084930 gidiefor said:
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I don't see how the Giants are going to win anything this year

I don't have anything to base it on other than my own gut feeling, but I suspect Halapio was far from a finished product with the line calls. If we can improve the calls, I think we'll see less mental errors by the line. That won't make them a good OL overnight, but it might still represent a material improvement.
It’ll  
SoZKillA : 9/19/2018 3:43 pm : link
Be a win if they score 2TD’s on sunday
I agree with  
NikkiMac : 9/20/2018 8:13 am : link
Gatorade dunk .Center is the QB of the line I’m sure Halapio did his best but we just might be better with Greco but heck I thought Jones was better than all of them but what do I know
0-7...  
trueblueinpw : 9/20/2018 8:42 am : link
I don’t make the Giants a favorite in any of the next 6 games. I’m not sure I even make them a push against the DC team, but from here and now, that’s the closest game I see to being winable for these Giants. I think it’s entirely possible, even likely at this point, that the Giants won’t finish with a better record than last year. Hope I’m wrong. Tuna used to say, it’s not who you play, it’s when you play them. Pretty sure no ones worried about playing the Giants these days.
We will only win when the opposing defense  
Jimmy Googs : 9/20/2018 8:49 am : link
has a few mental letdowns or missed tackles and Barkley and/or OBJ break a few long TDs in one game.

Unless that happens, this offense isn't going to do a damn thing with any consistency...
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