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NFT: NBA news: Jimmy Butler requests trade

BigBlue4You09 : 9/19/2018 2:00 pm
“Jimmy Butler has requested a trade from the Minnesota Timberwolves, league sources tell me and @JonKrawczynski. Butler has given Minnesota a list of one-to-three teams with whom he's open to signing extension, in anticipation of trade.”
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Will Knicks be in on this  
tbonfig : 9/19/2018 2:03 pm : link
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RE: Will Knicks be in on this  
giants#1 : 9/19/2018 2:06 pm : link
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I predict Knox + 2019 1st + salary filler for Butler!
Mills said the other night that  
Strahan91 : 9/19/2018 2:09 pm : link
the Knicks won't trade first round picks for guys they can sign in FA. That leads me to believe the only way it happens is if they take a light package. Who knows, Thibs is an odd duck.
my guess 3 teams are  
nygiants16 : 9/19/2018 2:09 pm : link
knicks, lakers and celtics..

celtics will not trade for him..

lakers no reason to they have a max slot...

Knicks only make a trade if they take lee and noah, otherqise no reason tl
I really hope they don't trade Knox  
tbonfig : 9/19/2018 2:11 pm : link
I want to root for this team with some young talent and I think we may have nailed these two draft picks. I'd be okay with a future 1st and Hardaway, etc.
Thibs effect  
dep026 : 9/19/2018 2:15 pm : link
worst coach in the NBA.
No way, and I like Butler  
Optimus-NY : 9/19/2018 2:17 pm : link
I want a Shooting Guard in the next draft and I think the Knicks will be in position to get a pretty good one. Romeo Langford being the guy I want. There will be a few decent ones to choose from. The FA I want is Anthony Davis in 2020.
Where's dep? He's going to have a field  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/19/2018 2:17 pm : link
day with this & Thibs.
Knicks should try  
moespree : 9/19/2018 2:19 pm : link
Thibs may be the one guy stupid enough to trade for Noah.
RE: No way, and I like Butler  
bceagle05 : 9/19/2018 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14085293 Optimus-NY said:
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I want a Shooting Guard in the next draft and I think the Knicks will be in position to get a pretty good one. Romeo Langford being the guy I want.


I'm right with ya on Langford. He and Knox would be Houston/Sprewell 2.0. I would only disrupt the youth movement for the legit superstars - Kyrie, KD, Greek Freak and Anthony Davis.
I think the Lakers  
Metnut : 9/19/2018 2:25 pm : link
would be the best fit for him.
He  
Jon in NYC : 9/19/2018 2:26 pm : link
wants Knicks, Nets, Clippers.

Knicks probably can't get a deal done regardless. I could see he and Kyrie teaming up with the Nets.
Wow  
Jon in NYC : 9/19/2018 2:28 pm : link
the Clippers may have the worst roster in the NBA. Woof.

Nets may be able to get something done here.
Knicks better not be in on this......  
Italianju : 9/19/2018 2:28 pm : link
unless they can pull it off without including KP, Knox, 2019 first, any unprotected first, and robinson.

Im aware that we cant make a trade without including the above, but thats the point. If we can get him for Frank, THJR, and a protected 2021 first then fine. And again for those who are going to come on here and say knick fans think they can get him for junk, im not saying we can get him for that package, im saying thats all we should offer and when we dont get him, fine.
RE: Knicks better not be in on this......  
nygiants16 : 9/19/2018 2:37 pm : link
In comment 14085318 Italianju said:
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unless they can pull it off without including KP, Knox, 2019 first, any unprotected first, and robinson.

Im aware that we cant make a trade without including the above, but thats the point. If we can get him for Frank, THJR, and a protected 2021 first then fine. And again for those who are going to come on here and say knick fans think they can get him for junk, im not saying we can get him for that package, im saying thats all we should offer and when we dont get him, fine.


i dont think any team with cap space should trade for him unless they can make a trade where they have room for a 2nd max
Noah  
Carl in CT : 9/19/2018 2:37 pm : link
Lee and Frenchie. That’s it Thibs. Or we continue our building of young kids (like that has a chance grin.)
This would seem to indicate  
Strahan91 : 9/19/2018 2:38 pm : link
that the rumors about Butler and Kyrie wanting to play together are true. The Nets and Clippers have two max slots and the Knicks could potentially get there by getting KP to hold off on his extension til after they sign the first two although I'm not sure what the specifics are.
Knicks  
TyreeHelmet : 9/19/2018 2:39 pm : link
Are on the one the teams he wants. I’m a big fan of Butler but I don’t want to trade any meaningful assets for him. Knicks are years away, he’s 29 and a pending FA. Hopefully this regime is patient. Now if they want Hardaway - let’s make a deal.
Tyree, as I understand it he can be traded to any team.  
Ira : 9/19/2018 2:43 pm : link
The ones on the list are the ones he's willing to extend with at the time of the trade.
I hope the Nets get him.  
bceagle05 : 9/19/2018 2:53 pm : link
As currently constituted, they're one of the few teams that might be worse than us right now. Add Butler, and they might jump us in the standings.
the three teams are ...  
Mike in St. Louis : 9/19/2018 2:55 pm : link
Knicks, Nets and Clippers, according to Woj...
Fuck no  
Anakim : 9/19/2018 2:55 pm : link
No way. Unless they want Noah, Lee and like Mudiay, they can go fuck right off.
Again... Butler is a huge cancer  
dep026 : 9/19/2018 2:56 pm : link
Avoid him at all costs.
and lets be honest  
nygiants16 : 9/19/2018 2:58 pm : link
nobody is giving some great package for butler, twolves are kind of screwed here
RE: the three teams are ...  
Enzo : 9/19/2018 3:07 pm : link
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Knicks, Nets and Clippers, according to Woj...

what a weird list.
Interesting to see if some other team steps up  
bceagle05 : 9/19/2018 3:12 pm : link
and takes him as a rental. Minny doesn’t have to limit the search to those teams, especially if those three lowball them.
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nygiants16 : 9/19/2018 3:12 pm : link
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Knicks, Nets and Clippers, according to Woj...


what a weird list.


all teams he can team up with kyrie at..
RE: RE: the three teams are ...  
Anakim : 9/19/2018 3:16 pm : link
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Knicks, Nets and Clippers, according to Woj...


what a weird list.


Is it? He wants to go to a big market. New York and Los Angeles...
If they take Lee, THR, Mudiay, Noah, Kanter, etc.  
larryflower37 : 9/19/2018 3:16 pm : link
I am all in
But no draft picks or young talent.
Wolves need to get this done before tip off or it will be a diaster.
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Enzo : 9/19/2018 3:41 pm : link
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Knicks, Nets and Clippers, according to Woj...


what a weird list.



Is it? He wants to go to a big market. New York and Los Angeles...

then where are the Lakers?
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nygiants16 : 9/19/2018 3:44 pm : link
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Knicks, Nets and Clippers, according to Woj...


what a weird list.



Is it? He wants to go to a big market. New York and Los Angeles...


then where are the Lakers?


it is teams he and kyrie both can go to
Jimmy Butler isn't the level of star that commands this  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/19/2018 4:09 pm : link
level of drama.

RE: Jimmy Butler isn't the level of star that commands this  
bceagle05 : 9/19/2018 4:15 pm : link
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level of drama.


I agree. Toss in his history as a malcontent, and culture-building teams like the Knicks and Nets should stay far away.
Would you guys do  
djm : 9/19/2018 4:18 pm : link
Hardaway, lee and a protected 2019 or 2020 first? If 2020 is lotto then they get that pick no matter what.

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Stu11 : 9/19/2018 4:24 pm : link
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level of drama.




I agree. Toss in his history as a malcontent, and culture-building teams like the Knicks and Nets should stay far away.

Sprinkle in some diminishing knee cartilage to boot.
Woj says Thibs not willing to trade him as of yet.  
bceagle05 : 9/19/2018 4:25 pm : link
Translation: Don't bother lowballing us.
RE: RE: RE: RE: the three teams are ...  
Anakim : 9/19/2018 4:31 pm : link
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Knicks, Nets and Clippers, according to Woj...


what a weird list.



Is it? He wants to go to a big market. New York and Los Angeles...


then where are the Lakers?


I'm guessing he knows that's completely unrealistic
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Ira : 9/19/2018 4:36 pm : link
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level of drama.




I agree. Toss in his history as a malcontent, and culture-building teams like the Knicks and Nets should stay far away.


Sprinkle in some diminishing knee cartilage to boot.


Last season, Butler was 4th in the league on ESPN's real +/-.
Would not give up anything of value  
Oscar : 9/19/2018 4:57 pm : link
Hell I don’t think I would even want him as a free agent. Pass.
Starting to look like Minny  
bceagle05 : 9/19/2018 5:21 pm : link
won't be that juggernaut people expected. Butler will soon be out of there, and KAT doesn't seem thrilled to be there either. Wiggins is pretty good, but nothing special.
Hard  
Phil in LA : 9/19/2018 5:26 pm : link
pass.
Fair trade if Knicks are in  
Philu916 : 9/19/2018 5:38 pm : link
Tim Hardaway, Courtney Lee, 2nd for Butler

Knocks out 2 Big contracts in Lee and Hardaway and a 2nd. Mills won’t give up the future aka no Knox and no 1sts. Nobody is taking on Noah’s contract so Mills will either cut him or let his contract play out.
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Ten Ton Hammer : 9/19/2018 5:43 pm : link
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level of drama.




I agree. Toss in his history as a malcontent, and culture-building teams like the Knicks and Nets should stay far away.


Sprinkle in some diminishing knee cartilage to boot.



Last season, Butler was 4th in the league on ESPN's real +/-.


Not that I think he's a bad player. He's a legitimate all star. But he's not a franchise-changing player IMO.
The list of NBA players I like is short  
UConn4523 : 9/19/2018 6:04 pm : link
Butler is now off of it. So lame.
RE: The list of NBA players I like is short  
dep026 : 9/19/2018 6:10 pm : link
In comment 14085652 UConn4523 said:
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Butler is now off of it. So lame.


Lauri and Wendell.

Learn to love em’!!
Is Hardaway and Lee and a 2nd  
adamg : 9/19/2018 6:50 pm : link
really a possible trade? Seems like MIN would piss on that... but what can they really expect to get?
Stephen A. (I know, I know) says  
bceagle05 : 9/19/2018 6:56 pm : link
Minny wants Lee, Frank and a future first.
RE: Stephen A. (I know, I know) says  
nygiants16 : 9/19/2018 7:04 pm : link
In comment 14085726 bceagle05 said:
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Minny wants Lee, Frank and a future first.


i love frank but done deal for me as long as the first is not this year...

it still allows you to add a max...

kyrie
tim
jimmy
knox
kp
The Knicks should pass  
twostepgiants : 9/19/2018 7:04 pm : link
Porzingas, Knox, Frank and this years #1 are the future. Keep your cap space. That’s a very young core. Someone actually worth a max deal will want to come and play here with them when the time is right.
RE: Stephen A. (I know, I know) says  
twostepgiants : 9/19/2018 7:06 pm : link
In comment 14085726 bceagle05 said:
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Minny wants Lee, Frank and a future first.


To me thats 3 big assets. The 1, Frank and the max cap slot Butler will require.

Pass.
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