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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/30/2018 7:18 pm
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CBS the refs and Romo  
UESBLUE : 9/30/2018 7:20 pm : link
all suck. And so does our team.
I wonder if Snacks was hurt.  
Diver_Down : 9/30/2018 7:20 pm : link
He disappeared in the 4th. Love the guy and his play, but his knees might not hold out for the rest of the season.
Hurts more when.....  
UticaMike : 9/30/2018 7:21 pm : link
you know you were totally outcoached. And today Shurmur was totally outcoached.
On their way to 1-6  
jeff57 : 9/30/2018 7:21 pm : link
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This offense is bad  
Mike from Ohio : 9/30/2018 7:21 pm : link
and it goes beyond the atrocious line of scrimmage. The play calling is simplistic and predictable, and the defense is being left out to dry by the ineptitude.
Who officiated this game?  
Chris684 : 9/30/2018 7:22 pm : link
Pete Morelli or the corpse of Abe Vigoda?
Who won?  
fivehead : 9/30/2018 7:22 pm : link
I turned to the A&E change to watch a documentary.
Bad OL, bad Eli, bad playcalling, bad defense  
BigBlue4You09 : 9/30/2018 7:22 pm : link
Bad special teams.

Bad team
i know the record so far -  
short lease : 9/30/2018 7:22 pm : link
doesn't show much improvement.

But, this team looks different from last year and for the better. To me they do not look lost as much as they did last year and they are actually trying this year. It is probably going to take a couple more drafts of high picks. The problem is we (Eli) doesn't have that kind of time.

Still early in the season though.
Great company  
family progtitioner : 9/30/2018 7:23 pm : link
with shitty offenses this week. The Jets, Bills, Cards, Miami. Bottom dwellers. The Giants also played one of the worst Ds in the league.

Get a clue and get a QB next year with the top 3 draft pick coming.
Its really  
KWhite2250 : 9/30/2018 7:23 pm : link
Not fun to watch the giants anymore
Question? Are the giants  
Massgman : 9/30/2018 7:23 pm : link
The worst team in the NFL
Building a team...  
GiantFanInTX : 9/30/2018 7:24 pm : link
The team needs to build from inside out. You can’t win in the nfl without pass rushers and guys who can move people on O. A mobile web would also help.
It’s everyone but Eli  
RUNYG : 9/30/2018 7:24 pm : link
Everyone is to blame aside from the magnificence golden boy Eli!
oh and one more thing  
UESBLUE : 9/30/2018 7:25 pm : link
we didnt draft a QB.
Only two real drives all game  
gmenatlarge : 9/30/2018 7:25 pm : link
You can’t keep giving the ball back to Brees and expect to win.
RE: Question? Are the giants  
rebel yell : 9/30/2018 7:25 pm : link
In comment 14099787 Massgman said:
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The worst team in the NFL

They're bottom five. They're definitely not going anywhere this year. Top five to ten draft pick, perhaps?
This team sucks  
rocco8112 : 9/30/2018 7:25 pm : link
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RE: Building a team...  
GiantFanInTX : 9/30/2018 7:25 pm : link
In comment 14099800 GiantFanInTX said:
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The team needs to build from inside out. You can’t win in the nfl without pass rushers and guys who can move people on O. A mobile web would also help.


*QB, not web lol
Shurmur laughing  
BigBlue4You09 : 9/30/2018 7:25 pm : link
The only emotion he showed all day.
The way the team played today was the way they played last year  
nyjuggernaut2 : 9/30/2018 7:25 pm : link
Lethargic offense, costly mistakes, bonehead coaching decisions, and a team that overall just didn't look ready to play. Flat all around...
Starting to  
mittenedman : 9/30/2018 7:25 pm : link
wonder about Shurmur. DAL game and now this.

I thought this guy was a run heavy/play action? Terrible gameplan again.
This org sure can pick offensive geniuses  
j_rud : 9/30/2018 7:26 pm : link
What an embarrassing time to be a Giants fan.
Three different coaches and the same QB  
adamg : 9/30/2018 7:27 pm : link
All with the same lack of success...
Romo is such a douche  
adamg : 9/30/2018 7:27 pm : link
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Get off Romo. He doesn't  
section125 : 9/30/2018 7:28 pm : link
have to suck Giants' ass to be good. Yet he praised the shit out of them even on the last two drives in which the defense blew.
I hope Britt  
Les in TO : 9/30/2018 7:28 pm : link
Starts another captain checkdown thread this week
The clock mismanagement  
K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 9/30/2018 7:28 pm : link
Before half was curious.

How he got the money back on those timeouts.
So frustrating  
cokeduplt : 9/30/2018 7:28 pm : link
Franchise is stuck in mud
RE: Romo is such a douche  
BigBlue4You09 : 9/30/2018 7:29 pm : link
In comment 14099839 adamg said:
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How so? He pointed out everything wrong with the Giants all game. He’d be doing a better job than Shurmur honestly.
RE: Get off Romo. He doesn't  
cokeduplt : 9/30/2018 7:29 pm : link
In comment 14099841 section125 said:
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have to suck Giants' ass to be good. Yet he praised the shit out of them even on the last two drives in which the defense blew.



Romo was fine it’s the giants who suck
You can hate  
Danny L : 9/30/2018 7:29 pm : link
Romo all you want.
But he is damn right about the OL.
This OL cannot give Eli the time to go down the field.
So you can blame Eli or the playcalling all you want
But this offense is going no where with this OL.
You can have all the toys you want on offense but the basic fetal error in this offense and thats the OL.
The season is  
Rick5 : 9/30/2018 7:30 pm : link
over in September. Again. At least we had one fun week of football.
Still super excited about last week's win against a shit team?  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 9/30/2018 7:30 pm : link
I'm looking forward to a long run where we aspire to mediocrity but fall well short
If  
AcidTest : 9/30/2018 7:30 pm : link
you can't block, you won't win.

Shurmur said as much after they drafted Hernandez. "If you can't block them, nothing works." We can't block anybody. Four and five DL are controlling our OL, so Eli is constantly forced to check down because he's constantly throwing against six or seven defenders.

The D simply got worn out, a problem that will likely happen earlier in games as the season progresses.
there are a few games I will say that have been blatantly affected  
SHO'NUFF : 9/30/2018 7:30 pm : link
by poor officiating for one side...this is one of them.
Shurmur has been a complete failure  
Rflairr : 9/30/2018 7:31 pm : link
His offense is the problem. He coaches with no balls. Conservative gameplans. Terrible hire
RE: Its really  
micky : 9/30/2018 7:31 pm : link
In comment 14099781 KWhite2250 said:
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Not fun to watch the giants anymore


Yup exactly!!!!
There is no excuse for an offense to get only 18 pts  
PatersonPlank : 9/30/2018 7:32 pm : link
at home against the Saints. Its not just Eli, as the anti crowd wants you to believe. Its the play calling, the OL, Eli, and the WR's. Its everything, and it all needs to change
Nothing has changed from his time in Cleveland  
Rflairr : 9/30/2018 7:32 pm : link
To really big fuck ups by the owner and GM. Coach hire and RB over franchise QB. Franchise changing fuckups
Moving Eli Outof Pocket  
Jeffrey : 9/30/2018 7:33 pm : link
What the hell happened to that strategy once the pressure came. Average defense and horrible secondary look good only by comparison to the offense.
Five win team  
spike : 9/30/2018 7:33 pm : link
Best scenario.

Probably worst of the NfC East
RE: If  
Danny L : 9/30/2018 7:33 pm : link
In comment 14099867 AcidTest said:
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you can't block, you won't win.

Shurmur said as much after they drafted Hernandez. "If you can't block them, nothing works." We can't block anybody. Four and five DL are controlling our OL, so Eli is constantly forced to check down because he's constantly throwing against six or seven defenders.

The D simply got worn out, a problem that will likely happen earlier in games as the season progresses.


I also think this its by design. Shurmur knows the OL will NOT hold up for a 7 step drop. heck its having trouble even in shot gun formation.
So the basic design is lots of short quick throws...
Two  
Rflairr : 9/30/2018 7:33 pm : link
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Eli had one  
Mark from Jersey : 9/30/2018 7:33 pm : link
Pass over 20 yards by my count...one.

A function of a terrible offensive line and a scared quarterback.

This team, even with all of its weapons, isn't going anywhere this season.

Cant get 20 points on one of the worst defenses in football...at home?
RE: Shurmur has been a complete failure  
D_Giants : 9/30/2018 7:35 pm : link
In comment 14099876 Rflairr said:
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His offense is the problem. He coaches with no balls. Conservative gameplans. Terrible hire


Totally agree. Mara and Tisch pulled the same move they did with McAdoo: picking an ‘offensive’ coach who relies on the defensive unit to win each and every game. Problem is that it is difficult to keep real NFL offensive units to lessthan 20 points over 60 minutes. If you don’t score points, you don’t win. If you don’t get first downs, you don’t score. Shurmur’s offensive requires 3-5 plays to move 10 or more yards.
RE: Eli had one  
Rflairr : 9/30/2018 7:36 pm : link
In comment 14099895 Mark from Jersey said:
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Pass over 20 yards by my count...one.

A function of a terrible offensive line and a scared quarterback.

This team, even with all of its weapons, isn't going anywhere this season.

Cant get 20 points on one of the worst defenses in football...at home?


He had time today. The play calling and game plan was conservative. Scared to make a mistake
the Oline is holding this team back  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/30/2018 7:36 pm : link
they are changing what the coaches can call and what Eli can throw because they can't consistently block the defense. Doubt much is going to change about the oLine until next year anyway.

Not that it mattered except to increase frustration, but the officiating was a joke. Oh and CBS sucks.
This loss is on Shurmur and Gettlemen.  
jogo1 : 9/30/2018 7:36 pm : link
Noncompetitive in all 3 phases.
RE: RE: Eli had one  
Mark from Jersey : 9/30/2018 7:37 pm : link
In comment 14099913 Rflairr said:
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In comment 14099895 Mark from Jersey said:


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Pass over 20 yards by my count...one.

A function of a terrible offensive line and a scared quarterback.

This team, even with all of its weapons, isn't going anywhere this season.

Cant get 20 points on one of the worst defenses in football...at home?



He had time today. The play calling and game plan was conservative. Scared to make a mistake
RF - That too.
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