Anyone notice that there are seldom any variations in Eli's snap counts and cadence at the line? It's 118, 118, set! Almost every play - making it easy for the DL to jump the snap and for blitzers to time their rush. This was especially evident in the first half, 3rd down blitz and sack by #58 of the Saints. It was the center's job to slide and pick him up, but he was by him almost instantly once the ball moved. This has been going on since last season.
It's borderline robotic at this point and extremely sloppy by an offense that is routinely late to the line and their sets, often times having to rush the snap as the playclock runs down and leaving no room for variations in cadence to keep the defensive line somewhat true.
We never see hard counts, there is never any tempo shift from the offense and there is absolutely no rhythm to the playcalling from this coaching staff. That's not all on the Quarterback, but it seems like something he should recognize and adjust during the week. For a guy who watches film as much as he does - and is certainly a student of the game - this is pretty rudimentary. It's such an easy fix that I'm a bit alarmed this hasn't been installed in the offense after an entire offseason and four weeks of regular season games.
This team seems to not be able to do the little things correctly at this point. That's extremely troubling and falls on the coaching staff to correct. They are sloppy, unorganized, not confident in any of the three phases of the game and I'm not sold on this guy by a damn sight.
what's his resume, anyway...did he really run any prolific offenses? because he sure has a prophylactic offense in New York.
I was clamoring all game to go hurry up and to pick the pace up. When we did it late, we scored. We get to the LOS with 12-14 seconds and then Eli has to call out the defenses and the MIKE, and we are barely beating the play clock.
Great post.
It needs to get corrected and if we can see it you can be damn sure other teams/coaches do.
Take care of the little things and the big things will follow.
Of all the things that can regress, I assume the last to go would be the ability to read a defense pre-snap. This isn't a Manning issue. This is having a shitty team with a bunch of guys who don't belong in the NFL issue.
Of all the things that can regress, I assume the last to go would be the ability to read a defense pre-snap. This isn't a Manning issue. This is having a shitty team with a bunch of guys who don't belong in the NFL issue.
No doubt but helping out the D with the same snap count/cadence doesn't help any of that. In fact a hard count/change would go a long way in helping against that.
Seems like a small thing and not saying it's why they lost but just a noticble thing that gives the D another edge. They should be doing everything they can to give the OL an edge.
The Oline is so pitiful. When PFF graded them 23 of 32 last week, I knew they were scatter brains.
By the way, that Shurmur pic is his 'Clint Eastwood' look.
The fact that He had Barkley on the bench so early in the game and ended up with 10 lousy carries . Not even a wheel route . Draw Play Nothing . OBJ getting to few chances
he finally put him back to PR we pay this man a ton of money
make him earn all of it . Same with KR you watch a guy who was a disaster waiting to happen put Barkley back there or at least Gallman its what they do Run with the ball .
Took forever to get Ellison going need someone to move the chains . 2-3 yard pass plays that lead to disasters
very hard game to watch refs were a Joke !
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I would assume having two centers in 4 games, a new RT, and a bunch of guys off the bench getting more snaps today is making it hard to get the protections right and aligned.
Of all the things that can regress, I assume the last to go would be the ability to read a defense pre-snap. This isn't a Manning issue. This is having a shitty team with a bunch of guys who don't belong in the NFL issue.
No doubt but helping out the D with the same snap count/cadence doesn't help any of that. In fact a hard count/change would go a long way in helping against that.
Seems like a small thing and not saying it's why they lost but just a noticble thing that gives the D another edge. They should be doing everything they can to give the OL an edge.
You can't dick around at the line if getting on the same page takes 40 seconds.
I'm not saying it doesn't put the offense at a major disadvantage. It clearly does. Seems like there is a breakaway sack every game where someone times the snap.
But the flip side is hurrying up and having a bunch of chaos and the protection being a mess.
What I'm assuming is Manning isn't chilling somking dubes and then snapping the ball.
The Oline is so pitiful. When PFF graded them 23 of 32 last week, I knew they were scatter brains.
By the way, that Shurmur pic is his 'Clint Eastwood' look.
I respectfully reject that notion because I've coached 8-12 year olds who can do it flawlessly. Yes, with those kids there were some mistakes at the beginning. However, they got the simple tweaks to a snap count when we practiced it at length. I realize we're not talking about kids here - but we're talking about pros who have played the game all their lives and their livelihoods depend on being perfect. This is a coaching and performance issue that flies under the radar but has a way of changing drives and games for the positive.
Again, this team doesn't do the little things well. And those things make all the difference over the course of a game.
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I would assume having two centers in 4 games, a new RT, and a bunch of guys off the bench getting more snaps today is making it hard to get the protections right and aligned.
Of all the things that can regress, I assume the last to go would be the ability to read a defense pre-snap. This isn't a Manning issue. This is having a shitty team with a bunch of guys who don't belong in the NFL issue.
No doubt but helping out the D with the same snap count/cadence doesn't help any of that. In fact a hard count/change would go a long way in helping against that.
Seems like a small thing and not saying it's why they lost but just a noticble thing that gives the D another edge. They should be doing everything they can to give the OL an edge.
You can't dick around at the line if getting on the same page takes 40 seconds.
I'm not saying it doesn't put the offense at a major disadvantage. It clearly does. Seems like there is a breakaway sack every game where someone times the snap.
But the flip side is hurrying up and having a bunch of chaos and the protection being a mess.
What I'm assuming is Manning isn't chilling somking dubes and then snapping the ball.
There's no reason Eli can't say in the huddle "we're going hard count here, hold your position" or something to that effect. Same with a change in cadence or snap count.
It just seems to me they're going on the same count way too often and it's predictable. These guys however new to each other are still pros and should be able to handle different snap counts. I don't think snapping on two or three is going to cause them delay of games. We're not talking five seconds between counts.