"I feel like the guys up front put a scare in the quarterback, rushing him the way they rushed," #Saints cornerback Ken Crawley said. "I know there were some shots there downfield, but he didn't take them."
i agree, he needs to take shots, but you know the saints pass defense beyond 20 or so isnt good, why wasnt the gameplan by shurmur to stretch the field? Why isnt he calling plays to stretch the seam?
Hes getting hit a lot. And DL guys love playing vs Eli who is essentially a statue. He lies down sometimes when he cant step up. I think he is known as an easy mark.
Hes getting hit a lot. And DL guys love playing vs Eli who is essentially a statue. He lies down sometimes when he cant step up. I think he is known as an easy mark.
No offense, but if Eli is shook to the point we're he's not playing as good as he should be, as good as we need, he has to go.
Even dep knows and sees it but wants to keep his schtick going.
This team has issues on offense. Eli may be a functional QB but he most certainly is rapidly declining and his limitations are becoming so exacerbated that his tremendous mental acuities and intelligence cant overcome. Theres no physical dynamism in his toolkit. The deep throws are erratic even when made.
I dont know what we do the rest of the year but next offseason is huge because I think this team needs a multi year retool of which QB is just one of about five or six of glaring need and depth.
They were saying this all night in Dallas. Guys were open downfield all night. Eli looks to dump it off fast like its a hot potato once snapped. Its like he almost refuses to look for the big play. All week I felt this offense would get to/exceed 30 because the Saint D is flat out bad. Its maddening watching what is happening on that side of the ball. At what point do we finally admit Eli is equally as culpable as the OL??
RE: Eli is great, DG is a genius and Barkley is a generational talent
Hes getting hit a lot. And DL guys love playing vs Eli who is essentially a statue. He lies down sometimes when he cant step up. I think he is known as an easy mark.
No offense, but if Eli is shook to the point we're he's not playing as good as he should be, as good as we need, he has to go.
+1 ...I didn't give up on him at any time till the end of last year and now..
Play a 2 deep zone and keep everything in front of you. Game tape shows Eli isn't pushing the ball down the field.
Why?
Because we can't give him enough time.
Romo maybe a cow turd forever, but he spoke volumes tonight about our issue and he is spot on. Make the Giants have to put together 10 + play drives and drive the length of the field. To do this you have to have no penalties, no negative plays and a couple of things that just go in your favor. Very very low percentage of scoring when you have to play this way. Too much to chance of something going wrong when you don't get yardage in large chunks and the teams we play see it and are winning on those odds alone.
Everyone here feels a debt of gratitude for what Eli has done. But it s ok to understand he has been part of the problem, it doesn't make you an ingrate or disloyal.
When you continually deflect any blame from Eli, you lose credibility.
Yes he can still play, but he has not been the solution for this team for a while now. Chasing past glory is a good way to put a team in the doldrums
Eli dumps it off to stay in positive down and distance with Barkley on the team. With this line, why hold it and risk a sack fumble? Or throw it up and risk an int. This offense has almost no room for error. Why are fans killing Eli for driving the offense as methodically as possible?
And what did you see? You watch the game from an all-22 view that you saw guys wide open?
Jesus fucking Christ. This place is embarrassing after a loss.
I saw a QB play really marginal and mediocre football today. Did a poor job of running the offense. We saw Dr. Jekyll last Sunday. We got Mr. Hyde today.
You want to blame Shurmur? Go ahead. But the QB was responsible for a lot of easy reads by the defense, soft decision making, missed throws.
Its impossible to get first downs cause we dont have WRs running routes pst the marker. Thats coaching.
Dude, come on, we get it. You will never fault him for anything. Why even comment on anything here that is Eli related when everyone and their mother know exactly what your answer will be? It's never his fault, never ever ever ever ever. He's cooked dude, just watch, well don't actually you won't see anything but a halo over his head and evil souls surrounding him like his OL just opened the Ark of the Covenant and he's helpless to do anything close his eyes or risk being melted into goo.
show me ONE time I said Eli played well today. Jesus Fuckign Christ.
Guess what people..... sometimes its more than him. Play calling, OL, skilled players. There are OTHER people who are part of the problem. Yet you people keep saying the same thing time after time. Bring something new the table. Jesus Christ already.
That its impossible to look downfield when your getting hit as quickly as Eli was.
So was he wrong too. If you want to throw routes downfield. You gotta block for him to throw it.
Romo himself said Eli had ample time today with the exception of the third quarter drives and the OL was playing well the 1st half when Eli made some really bad throws and Giants sputtered after the 1st Drive.
Stop being so selective to reinforce your never Eli narrative.
Eli dumps it off to stay in positive down and distance with Barkley on the team. With this line, why hold it and risk a sack fumble? Or throw it up and risk an int. This offense has almost no room for error. Why are fans killing Eli for driving the offense as methodically as possible?
Because we've already killed the OL and beaten the corpse into a bloody corpse. Eli isn't good for us, hasn't been for a while now. He deserves some heat.
Its impossible to get first downs cause we dont have WRs running routes pst the marker. Thats coaching.
Dude, come on, we get it. You will never fault him for anything. Why even comment on anything here that is Eli related when everyone and their mother know exactly what your answer will be? It's never his fault, never ever ever ever ever. He's cooked dude, just watch, well don't actually you won't see anything but a halo over his head and evil souls surrounding him like his OL just opened the Ark of the Covenant and he's helpless to do anything close his eyes or risk being melted into goo.
I get it too. When we lose, its all on him and we cant comment on other players on the team.
Jesus Christ. Show me one time today I said were he played even good. Just show it.
Hes getting hit a lot. And DL guys love playing vs Eli who is essentially a statue. He lies down sometimes when he cant step up. I think he is known as an easy mark.
No offense, but if Eli is shook to the point we're he's not playing as good as he should be, as good as we need, he has to go.
This very much. People questioning Shurmur not calling plays to go downfield dont know that he isnt. Eli, while maybe lacking faith in his OL, seems very quick to check out of letting the play develop downfield. Weird thing is last week he wasnt.
One thing I think Eli has been bad about is not looking to Beckham more. He used to put it up for Plax, Nicks and others even if it was a 50/50 ball in order to let those guys make a play.
If nothing else, it seems to me that Eli lacks that killer instinct he once had.
That its impossible to look downfield when your getting hit as quickly as Eli was.
So was he wrong too. If you want to throw routes downfield. You gotta block for him to throw it.
Romo himself said Eli had ample time today with the exception of the third quarter drives and the OL was playing well the 1st half when Eli made some really bad throws and Giants sputtered after the 1st Drive.
Stop being so selective to reinforce your never Eli narrative.
no romo didnt say that. romo said the giants arent playing well on the interior to allow eli to step up. he actually said solder was a good addition, but interior has to play better, to much pressure in his face. again, i think eli isnt part of the solution as he cant escape, however, i see other QBs with all fuckin day to throw...when is the last time you aid, holy shit eli has all day to scan the field lol...i literally cannot remmeber the last time eli had enough time to take a nap, meanwhile i see it regularly with some OLs
For several years
Its called David Carr syndrome- it goes away for a game here and there-but the end result is a qb that is no longer comfortable- and is easy to scheme against
That its impossible to look downfield when your getting hit as quickly as Eli was.
So was he wrong too. If you want to throw routes downfield. You gotta block for him to throw it.
Romo himself said Eli had ample time today with the exception of the third quarter drives and the OL was playing well the 1st half when Eli made some really bad throws and Giants sputtered after the 1st Drive.
Stop being so selective to reinforce your never Eli narrative.
And I said Eli missed a few throws about 75 times already. lol. The Always Eli is a much, much, muuch bigger crowd than the never Eli's.
Romo ripped the Giants OL and play calling all game. But that must have been your selective hearing.
show me ONE time I said Eli played well today. Jesus Fuckign Christ.
Guess what people..... sometimes its more than him. Play calling, OL, skilled players. There are OTHER people who are part of the problem. Yet you people keep saying the same thing time after time. Bring something new the table. Jesus Christ already.
Hes making 23 million and they rebuilt the organization in deference to giving him one more run and chance. People want to blame Shurmur and his offense but what is he supposed to do with an unathletic and immobile 37-38 yr old QB who now cant make hard deep throws and hears footsteps?
That its impossible to look downfield when your getting hit as quickly as Eli was.
So was he wrong too. If you want to throw routes downfield. You gotta block for him to throw it.
Romo himself said Eli had ample time today with the exception of the third quarter drives and the OL was playing well the 1st half when Eli made some really bad throws and Giants sputtered after the 1st Drive.
Stop being so selective to reinforce your never Eli narrative.
no romo didnt say that. romo said the giants arent playing well on the interior to allow eli to step up. he actually said solder was a good addition, but interior has to play better, to much pressure in his face. again, i think eli isnt part of the solution as he cant escape, however, i see other QBs with all fuckin day to throw...when is the last time you aid, holy shit eli has all day to scan the field lol...i literally cannot remmeber the last time eli had enough time to take a nap, meanwhile i see it regularly with some OLs
The OL played well in the 1st half. They had a bad third quarter for sure. Saints went up the gut on some gap blitzing in the third.
Romo was pretty fair all game. I dont get the hate some had for him in the game thread.
Against Watt and co but hes cooked this week? Sy and others have repeatedly said this Oline isnt much better so why are some claiming that Eli is the one who is cooked? Odd logic here.
And didnt Eli keep driving the team to within one score? Did Eli being cooked cause the defense to commit that penalty? Or Gallman to fumble the ball?
That its impossible to look downfield when your getting hit as quickly as Eli was.
So was he wrong too. If you want to throw routes downfield. You gotta block for him to throw it.
Romo himself said Eli had ample time today with the exception of the third quarter drives and the OL was playing well the 1st half when Eli made some really bad throws and Giants sputtered after the 1st Drive.
Stop being so selective to reinforce your never Eli narrative.
no romo didnt say that. romo said the giants arent playing well on the interior to allow eli to step up. he actually said solder was a good addition, but interior has to play better, to much pressure in his face. again, i think eli isnt part of the solution as he cant escape, however, i see other QBs with all fuckin day to throw...when is the last time you aid, holy shit eli has all day to scan the field lol...i literally cannot remmeber the last time eli had enough time to take a nap, meanwhile i see it regularly with some OLs
The OL played well in the 1st half. They had a bad third quarter for sure. Saints went up the gut on some gap blitzing in the third.
Romo was pretty fair all game. I dont get the hate
some had for him in the game thread.
i love romo as a commentator. he knows the game and is pretty fair, i think he knows eli is on decline and understands he needs a pretty clean pocket and in key spots, he really doesnt get it...
show me ONE time I said Eli played well today. Jesus Fuckign Christ.
Guess what people..... sometimes its more than him. Play calling, OL, skilled players. There are OTHER people who are part of the problem. Yet you people keep saying the same thing time after time. Bring something new the table. Jesus Christ already.
Hes making 23 million and they rebuilt the organization in deference to giving him one more run and chance. People want to blame Shurmur and his offense but what is he supposed to do with an unathletic and immobile 37-38 yr old QB who now cant make hard deep throws and hears footsteps?
You keep concentrating on getting rid of Eli. Fine. Lets get rid of him. Draft a rookie QB and hope for the best.
Meanwhile our number 2 pick, who is a FANTASTIC player, has 44 carries for 121 yards (less than 3 YPC btw) outside two runs where he got it all by himself.
That its impossible to look downfield when your getting hit as quickly as Eli was.
So was he wrong too. If you want to throw routes downfield. You gotta block for him to throw it.
Romo himself said Eli had ample time today with the exception of the third quarter drives and the OL was playing well the 1st half when Eli made some really bad throws and Giants sputtered after the 1st Drive.
Stop being so selective to reinforce your never Eli narrative.
no romo didnt say that. romo said the giants arent playing well on the interior to allow eli to step up. he actually said solder was a good addition, but interior has to play better, to much pressure in his face. again, i think eli isnt part of the solution as he cant escape, however, i see other QBs with all fuckin day to throw...when is the last time you aid, holy shit eli has all day to scan the field lol...i literally cannot remmeber the last time eli had enough time to take a nap, meanwhile i see it regularly with some OLs
The OL played well in the 1st half. They had a bad third quarter for sure. Saints went up the gut on some gap blitzing in the third.
Romo was pretty fair all game. I dont get the hate some had for him in the game thread.
It was definitely the middle pressure that they got that really hurt us offensively
Against Watt and co but hes cooked this week? Sy and others have repeatedly said this Oline isnt much better so why are some claiming that Eli is the one who is cooked? Odd logic here.
And didnt Eli keep driving the team to within one score? Did Eli being cooked cause the defense to commit that penalty? Or Gallman to fumble the ball?
agreed. eli gets a ton of shit.
he isnt a part of the solution tho and the giants should move on in 19 or 20 the latest. that being said he does get ALOT of heat...we know he is slow and cant escape, so the push against our interior is killer...OL just isnt good, i mean we see it all game. even barkley gets hit in backfield often.
show me ONE time I said Eli played well today. Jesus Fuckign Christ.
Guess what people..... sometimes its more than him. Play calling, OL, skilled players. There are OTHER people who are part of the problem. Yet you people keep saying the same thing time after time. Bring something new the table. Jesus Christ already.
Hes making 23 million and they rebuilt the organization in deference to giving him one more run and chance. People want to blame Shurmur and his offense but what is he supposed to do with an unathletic and immobile 37-38 yr old QB who now cant make hard deep throws and hears footsteps?
You keep concentrating on getting rid of Eli. Fine. Lets get rid of him. Draft a rookie QB and hope for the best.
Meanwhile our number 2 pick, who is a FANTASTIC player, has 44 carries for 121 yards (less than 3 YPC btw) outside two runs where he got it all by himself.
refs blowing calls that paid huge dividends for the other team
we r better then last year, but we still have huge holes in this team
I think there is growing room if we get some guys back and can keep people healthy but it may be too late at this point
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Uhhh no.... not this ⬆️.
You cant expect the D to play better than it has. the offense has been dead for multiple reasons...including Eli. This is the second game that Eli has looked like check down Charlie. People who say its only the O- Line are just not watching everything. Eli is looking for safety first before all else.Defenses know it too! They wont stop pressuring him until he shows the ability or at least the effort of attempting to make them pay for it. Hes not even making the correct reads consistently.
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the Oline
the Play calling
Giving up on the run game
D isn't making plays at important moments
refs blowing calls that paid huge dividends for the other team
we r better then last year, but we still have huge holes in this team
I think there is growing room if we get some guys back and can keep people healthy but it may be too late at this point
the Oline
the Play calling
Giving up on the run game
D isn't making plays at important moments
refs blowing calls that paid huge dividends for the other team
we r better then last year, but we still have huge holes in this team
I think there is growing room if we get some guys back and can keep people healthy but it may be too late at this point
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No offense, but if Eli is shook to the point we're he's not playing as good as he should be, as good as we need, he has to go.
This team has issues on offense. Eli may be a functional QB but he most certainly is rapidly declining and his limitations are becoming so exacerbated that his tremendous mental acuities and intelligence cant overcome. Theres no physical dynamism in his toolkit. The deep throws are erratic even when made.
I dont know what we do the rest of the year but next offseason is huge because I think this team needs a multi year retool of which QB is just one of about five or six of glaring need and depth.
Jesus fucking Christ. This place is embarrassing after a loss.
Well only 1 of those is accurate so...
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Hes getting hit a lot. And DL guys love playing vs Eli who is essentially a statue. He lies down sometimes when he cant step up. I think he is known as an easy mark.
No offense, but if Eli is shook to the point we're he's not playing as good as he should be, as good as we need, he has to go.
+1 ...I didn't give up on him at any time till the end of last year and now..
Jesus fucking Christ. This place is embarrassing after a loss.
A Saints player said it, so don't blame us. Unless Eli banged his girl, I see no reason for him to make that up.
Why?
Because we can't give him enough time.
Romo maybe a cow turd forever, but he spoke volumes tonight about our issue and he is spot on. Make the Giants have to put together 10 + play drives and drive the length of the field. To do this you have to have no penalties, no negative plays and a couple of things that just go in your favor. Very very low percentage of scoring when you have to play this way. Too much to chance of something going wrong when you don't get yardage in large chunks and the teams we play see it and are winning on those odds alone.
Our opponents chirped us about McAdoo back in 2016, it proved right. He's not saying shit after a win just to say it.
So was he wrong too. If you want to throw routes downfield. You gotta block for him to throw it.
When you continually deflect any blame from Eli, you lose credibility.
Yes he can still play, but he has not been the solution for this team for a while now. Chasing past glory is a good way to put a team in the doldrums
Jesus fucking Christ. This place is embarrassing after a loss.
I saw a QB play really marginal and mediocre football today. Did a poor job of running the offense. We saw Dr. Jekyll last Sunday. We got Mr. Hyde today.
You want to blame Shurmur? Go ahead. But the QB was responsible for a lot of easy reads by the defense, soft decision making, missed throws.
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Guess what people..... sometimes its more than him. Play calling, OL, skilled players. There are OTHER people who are part of the problem. Yet you people keep saying the same thing time after time. Bring something new the table. Jesus Christ already.
So was he wrong too. If you want to throw routes downfield. You gotta block for him to throw it.
Romo himself said Eli had ample time today with the exception of the third quarter drives and the OL was playing well the 1st half when Eli made some really bad throws and Giants sputtered after the 1st Drive.
Stop being so selective to reinforce your never Eli narrative.
Because we've already killed the OL and beaten the corpse into a bloody corpse. Eli isn't good for us, hasn't been for a while now. He deserves some heat.
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Its impossible to get first downs cause we dont have WRs running routes pst the marker. Thats coaching.
Dude, come on, we get it. You will never fault him for anything. Why even comment on anything here that is Eli related when everyone and their mother know exactly what your answer will be? It's never his fault, never ever ever ever ever. He's cooked dude, just watch, well don't actually you won't see anything but a halo over his head and evil souls surrounding him like his OL just opened the Ark of the Covenant and he's helpless to do anything close his eyes or risk being melted into goo.
I get it too. When we lose, its all on him and we cant comment on other players on the team.
Jesus Christ. Show me one time today I said were he played even good. Just show it.
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Hes getting hit a lot. And DL guys love playing vs Eli who is essentially a statue. He lies down sometimes when he cant step up. I think he is known as an easy mark.
No offense, but if Eli is shook to the point we're he's not playing as good as he should be, as good as we need, he has to go.
This very much. People questioning Shurmur not calling plays to go downfield dont know that he isnt. Eli, while maybe lacking faith in his OL, seems very quick to check out of letting the play develop downfield. Weird thing is last week he wasnt.
One thing I think Eli has been bad about is not looking to Beckham more. He used to put it up for Plax, Nicks and others even if it was a 50/50 ball in order to let those guys make a play.
If nothing else, it seems to me that Eli lacks that killer instinct he once had.
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That its impossible to look downfield when your getting hit as quickly as Eli was.
So was he wrong too. If you want to throw routes downfield. You gotta block for him to throw it.
Romo himself said Eli had ample time today with the exception of the third quarter drives and the OL was playing well the 1st half when Eli made some really bad throws and Giants sputtered after the 1st Drive.
Stop being so selective to reinforce your never Eli narrative.
no romo didnt say that. romo said the giants arent playing well on the interior to allow eli to step up. he actually said solder was a good addition, but interior has to play better, to much pressure in his face. again, i think eli isnt part of the solution as he cant escape, however, i see other QBs with all fuckin day to throw...when is the last time you aid, holy shit eli has all day to scan the field lol...i literally cannot remmeber the last time eli had enough time to take a nap, meanwhile i see it regularly with some OLs
Its called David Carr syndrome- it goes away for a game here and there-but the end result is a qb that is no longer comfortable- and is easy to scheme against
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That its impossible to look downfield when your getting hit as quickly as Eli was.
So was he wrong too. If you want to throw routes downfield. You gotta block for him to throw it.
Romo himself said Eli had ample time today with the exception of the third quarter drives and the OL was playing well the 1st half when Eli made some really bad throws and Giants sputtered after the 1st Drive.
Stop being so selective to reinforce your never Eli narrative.
And I said Eli missed a few throws about 75 times already. lol. The Always Eli is a much, much, muuch bigger crowd than the never Eli's.
Romo ripped the Giants OL and play calling all game. But that must have been your selective hearing.
Guess what people..... sometimes its more than him. Play calling, OL, skilled players. There are OTHER people who are part of the problem. Yet you people keep saying the same thing time after time. Bring something new the table. Jesus Christ already.
Hes making 23 million and they rebuilt the organization in deference to giving him one more run and chance. People want to blame Shurmur and his offense but what is he supposed to do with an unathletic and immobile 37-38 yr old QB who now cant make hard deep throws and hears footsteps?
the Oline
the Play calling
Giving up on the run game
D isn't making plays at important moments
refs blowing calls that paid huge dividends for the other team
we r better then last year, but we still have huge holes in this team
I think there is growing room if we get some guys back and can keep people healthy but it may be too late at this point
***And another year ELi gets older. His arm isn't going to get stronger next year. ANother year we won't be able to maximze OBJ and SB.
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That its impossible to look downfield when your getting hit as quickly as Eli was.
So was he wrong too. If you want to throw routes downfield. You gotta block for him to throw it.
Romo himself said Eli had ample time today with the exception of the third quarter drives and the OL was playing well the 1st half when Eli made some really bad throws and Giants sputtered after the 1st Drive.
Stop being so selective to reinforce your never Eli narrative.
no romo didnt say that. romo said the giants arent playing well on the interior to allow eli to step up. he actually said solder was a good addition, but interior has to play better, to much pressure in his face. again, i think eli isnt part of the solution as he cant escape, however, i see other QBs with all fuckin day to throw...when is the last time you aid, holy shit eli has all day to scan the field lol...i literally cannot remmeber the last time eli had enough time to take a nap, meanwhile i see it regularly with some OLs
The OL played well in the 1st half. They had a bad third quarter for sure. Saints went up the gut on some gap blitzing in the third.
Romo was pretty fair all game. I dont get the hate some had for him in the game thread.
And didnt Eli keep driving the team to within one score? Did Eli being cooked cause the defense to commit that penalty? Or Gallman to fumble the ball?
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That its impossible to look downfield when your getting hit as quickly as Eli was.
So was he wrong too. If you want to throw routes downfield. You gotta block for him to throw it.
Romo himself said Eli had ample time today with the exception of the third quarter drives and the OL was playing well the 1st half when Eli made some really bad throws and Giants sputtered after the 1st Drive.
Stop being so selective to reinforce your never Eli narrative.
no romo didnt say that. romo said the giants arent playing well on the interior to allow eli to step up. he actually said solder was a good addition, but interior has to play better, to much pressure in his face. again, i think eli isnt part of the solution as he cant escape, however, i see other QBs with all fuckin day to throw...when is the last time you aid, holy shit eli has all day to scan the field lol...i literally cannot remmeber the last time eli had enough time to take a nap, meanwhile i see it regularly with some OLs
The OL played well in the 1st half. They had a bad third quarter for sure. Saints went up the gut on some gap blitzing in the third.
Romo was pretty fair all game. I dont get the hate
some had for him in the game thread.
i love romo as a commentator. he knows the game and is pretty fair, i think he knows eli is on decline and understands he needs a pretty clean pocket and in key spots, he really doesnt get it...
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show me ONE time I said Eli played well today. Jesus Fuckign Christ.
Guess what people..... sometimes its more than him. Play calling, OL, skilled players. There are OTHER people who are part of the problem. Yet you people keep saying the same thing time after time. Bring something new the table. Jesus Christ already.
Hes making 23 million and they rebuilt the organization in deference to giving him one more run and chance. People want to blame Shurmur and his offense but what is he supposed to do with an unathletic and immobile 37-38 yr old QB who now cant make hard deep throws and hears footsteps?
You keep concentrating on getting rid of Eli. Fine. Lets get rid of him. Draft a rookie QB and hope for the best.
Meanwhile our number 2 pick, who is a FANTASTIC player, has 44 carries for 121 yards (less than 3 YPC btw) outside two runs where he got it all by himself.
How you fixing that?
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That its impossible to look downfield when your getting hit as quickly as Eli was.
So was he wrong too. If you want to throw routes downfield. You gotta block for him to throw it.
Romo himself said Eli had ample time today with the exception of the third quarter drives and the OL was playing well the 1st half when Eli made some really bad throws and Giants sputtered after the 1st Drive.
Stop being so selective to reinforce your never Eli narrative.
no romo didnt say that. romo said the giants arent playing well on the interior to allow eli to step up. he actually said solder was a good addition, but interior has to play better, to much pressure in his face. again, i think eli isnt part of the solution as he cant escape, however, i see other QBs with all fuckin day to throw...when is the last time you aid, holy shit eli has all day to scan the field lol...i literally cannot remmeber the last time eli had enough time to take a nap, meanwhile i see it regularly with some OLs
The OL played well in the 1st half. They had a bad third quarter for sure. Saints went up the gut on some gap blitzing in the third.
Romo was pretty fair all game. I dont get the hate some had for him in the game thread.
It was definitely the middle pressure that they got that really hurt us offensively
And didnt Eli keep driving the team to within one score? Did Eli being cooked cause the defense to commit that penalty? Or Gallman to fumble the ball?
agreed. eli gets a ton of shit.
he isnt a part of the solution tho and the giants should move on in 19 or 20 the latest. that being said he does get ALOT of heat...we know he is slow and cant escape, so the push against our interior is killer...OL just isnt good, i mean we see it all game. even barkley gets hit in backfield often.
Get rid of Eli, even the Russell Wilon's of the world will struggle with that.
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show me ONE time I said Eli played well today. Jesus Fuckign Christ.
Guess what people..... sometimes its more than him. Play calling, OL, skilled players. There are OTHER people who are part of the problem. Yet you people keep saying the same thing time after time. Bring something new the table. Jesus Christ already.
Hes making 23 million and they rebuilt the organization in deference to giving him one more run and chance. People want to blame Shurmur and his offense but what is he supposed to do with an unathletic and immobile 37-38 yr old QB who now cant make hard deep throws and hears footsteps?
You keep concentrating on getting rid of Eli. Fine. Lets get rid of him. Draft a rookie QB and hope for the best.
Meanwhile our number 2 pick, who is a FANTASTIC player, has 44 carries for 121 yards (less than 3 YPC btw) outside two runs where he got it all by himself.
How you fixing that?
Finding a RT, C/G types who are big but mobile.
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its Eli
the Oline
the Play calling
Giving up on the run game
D isn't making plays at important moments
refs blowing calls that paid huge dividends for the other team
we r better then last year, but we still have huge holes in this team
I think there is growing room if we get some guys back and can keep people healthy but it may be too late at this point
This 👆💯
Uhhh no.... not this ⬆️.
You cant expect the D to play better than it has. the offense has been dead for multiple reasons...including Eli. This is the second game that Eli has looked like check down Charlie. People who say its only the O- Line are just not watching everything. Eli is looking for safety first before all else.Defenses know it too! They wont stop pressuring him until he shows the ability or at least the effort of attempting to make them pay for it. Hes not even making the correct reads consistently.
Finding a RT, C/G types who are big but mobile.
We have been looking to do that for the last 7 years. Hasnt worked.