"I feel like the guys up front put a scare in the quarterback, rushing him the way they rushed," #Saints cornerback Ken Crawley said. "I know there were some shots there downfield, but he didn't take them."
every day of the week, and it rains on Monday, on Tuesday, on Wednesday, and on Thursday, it's not "hearing footsteps" to decide Friday morning move Friday's event indoors even if it eventually clears up later in the day.
When Eli is staring down a pass rush on seemingly every drop back from all sides, he's not then hearing footsteps when he decides to get rid of the ball quickly or go to his first read on a play where the line actually maintained a pocket.
It would be foolish of Eli to have the memory of a goldfish and assume that the line is going to hold up for him to go through all his reads on any given play.
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1) Fix the freaking line! If your running back can't even get close to 3 yds a carry, you have not fixed 1.
2) If after 1 is done and cannot increase yds per play, then change the QB. Eli may be the problem, but not the biggest problem.
In essence...Fix the freaking line!
Ok, so fix the line in the next couple seasons, then see if Eli is good enough, and then change the QB.
So we'll wait until he's 2 years older, at the age of 39, and expect him to turn the clock back then.
It's time to move on from Eli NOW. Not after they fix the line to see if he's capable again. Now.
The first thing thast needs to be done is to find a quarterback for the future. Then fix the line. If they have shit play at QB, even if they have a fixed line they are not competing for titles.
Get a Quarterback to lead this franchise for the next decade. They can't wait any longer. Eli is done. There's a large enough sample size to realize that, and age absolutely is a factor. He's not getting any younger and he is no longer good enough to lead this franchise to contending for titles
I don't want a rehash of David Carr/Ryan Leaf, where the line sucks and the QB gets destroyed.
So don't play the future QB. Just like the Giants didnt play a rookie QB and wouldn't have played him at all if Kurt Warner wasnt a shell shocked zombie.
that Aaron Rodgers wouldn't get it done with this OL is fucking laughable. Rodgers has played behind shit lines before and still been a terrific player.
Ben Roethlisberger has played behind shit offensive lines and played well. Aaron Rodgers has. Many great QB's have. They don't suddenly suck when their line sucks.
Mook, I would strongly argue that rodgers nor Ben ever played with these bad of OLs. In fact, GB and Pitt always have had some of the best OLs in the league.
And Pitts OL hasnt been as good this year, but neither has Ben. He really, really struggled last night.
Pittsburgh had one of the worst offensive lines with big ben at QB for a few years. Before they drafted Pouncey and all of those guys. Green Bay has had bad offensive line play at times. Whether or not they have had an oline as bad as the Giants is up for debate, but its not up for debate that they have played seasons with bad offensive line play.
But Big Ben and Rodgers can somewhat hide bad offensive line play with their ability to move and create time with their legs. Eli doesn't do that, at all. The offensive line still wouldnt be any good but if you put a QB who can create time with his legs like Rodgers does they would look a lot better than they do right now.
Eli is a below average QB at this point. He once in a while has a good game, but most games he's at best mediocre.
I am not defending Eli but when was the last time either of these 2 QB’s won a SB. By the way Ben Rothlisberger has had a great supporting cast for the last 5 years and has has not gotten to the big game.
When Eli is staring down a pass rush on seemingly every drop back from all sides, he's not then hearing footsteps when he decides to get rid of the ball quickly or go to his first read on a play where the line actually maintained a pocket.
It would be foolish of Eli to have the memory of a goldfish and assume that the line is going to hold up for him to go through all his reads on any given play.
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In comment 14101702 TheEvilLurker said:
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1) Fix the freaking line! If your running back can't even get close to 3 yds a carry, you have not fixed 1.
2) If after 1 is done and cannot increase yds per play, then change the QB. Eli may be the problem, but not the biggest problem.
In essence...Fix the freaking line!
Ok, so fix the line in the next couple seasons, then see if Eli is good enough, and then change the QB.
So we'll wait until he's 2 years older, at the age of 39, and expect him to turn the clock back then.
It's time to move on from Eli NOW. Not after they fix the line to see if he's capable again. Now.
The first thing thast needs to be done is to find a quarterback for the future. Then fix the line. If they have shit play at QB, even if they have a fixed line they are not competing for titles.
Get a Quarterback to lead this franchise for the next decade. They can't wait any longer. Eli is done. There's a large enough sample size to realize that, and age absolutely is a factor. He's not getting any younger and he is no longer good enough to lead this franchise to contending for titles
I don't want a rehash of David Carr/Ryan Leaf, where the line sucks and the QB gets destroyed.
So don't play the future QB. Just like the Giants didnt play a rookie QB and wouldn't have played him at all if Kurt Warner wasnt a shell shocked zombie.
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In comment 14101323 MookGiants said:
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that Aaron Rodgers wouldn't get it done with this OL is fucking laughable. Rodgers has played behind shit lines before and still been a terrific player.
Ben Roethlisberger has played behind shit offensive lines and played well. Aaron Rodgers has. Many great QB's have. They don't suddenly suck when their line sucks.
Mook, I would strongly argue that rodgers nor Ben ever played with these bad of OLs. In fact, GB and Pitt always have had some of the best OLs in the league.
And Pitts OL hasnt been as good this year, but neither has Ben. He really, really struggled last night.
Pittsburgh had one of the worst offensive lines with big ben at QB for a few years. Before they drafted Pouncey and all of those guys. Green Bay has had bad offensive line play at times. Whether or not they have had an oline as bad as the Giants is up for debate, but its not up for debate that they have played seasons with bad offensive line play.
But Big Ben and Rodgers can somewhat hide bad offensive line play with their ability to move and create time with their legs. Eli doesn't do that, at all. The offensive line still wouldnt be any good but if you put a QB who can create time with his legs like Rodgers does they would look a lot better than they do right now.
Eli is a below average QB at this point. He once in a while has a good game, but most games he's at best mediocre.