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Post-Game Transcript: Head Coach Pat Shurmur

Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/30/2018 9:05 pm
Head Coach Pat Shurmur
September 30, 2018
Postgame vs. New Orleans Saints

Opening Remarks: We didnít make enough plays. The first drive was good, we went down and scored and then for a while there, we werenít hitting on some things. Then we had penalties that kept us behind the chains, and we didnítí move the ball. I thought early on especially, and really throughout the game, the defense battled. Weíre talking about 12-7 at halftime, thatís within one score and we had a fumble and after the first drive didnít do much. So, thatís good, then we came back out and really didnít make enough plays to get back into it. Then at the end of the game there, just do what you do at the end of the game, try and fight your way back into it and it didnít work. Weíve got to coach better. Weíve got to make more plays, and weíve just got to keep fighting, and weíve just got to work our way out of it. Credit to them, they did what they had to do to win, and we didnít. With that, Iíll take your questions.

Q: Whatíd they seem to do to limit you getting the ball to Odell (Beckham Jr.) early on?†
A: They played a lot of soft zone, lot of soft zone. We just had to pick away at them a little bit.

Q: Saquon (Barkley) didnít have a ton of carries especially early. If they were playing soft zone, is that something you regret?†
A: No, I think there were times we tried to run the ball. I donít regret it, he needs to touch the ball. Certainly by the looks of things here, him touching the ball more would be good.

Q: They called the horse collar tackle on (Janoris) Jenkins, it looked like you had a long (talk) with them out there.
A: Iím not getting into that. We didnít make enough plays to win the game, and I certainly saw what I think I saw and weíll just leave it at that.†

Q: How much did the momentum change after you had the good first drive and you got the three and out, but then they went for it on fourth down and converted that with a fake then they came back and got the horse collar coming back.
A: They did a couple things to keep drives alive. Certainly the fake was good, well-executed on their part. They kept the drive alive and they went down and scored. That was good on their part.†

Q: Your offense hasnít scored 20 points in three of the last four games.†
A: Absolutely, I know.

Q: What do you make of that?
A: We need to score more points. Weíve got to score more points throughout the game. We had a good first drive and weíve got to do more of it throughout. Thatís what I make of it. †

Q: Do you need to make massive changes?
A: No. We need to get better. What does that mean, massive changes?† We need to get better.

Q: Do you need to make changes to the starting lineup? Can you shake stuff up?
A: We need to get better.

Q: How would you assess (Eli Manningís) play today? †
A: I thought he did a lot of good things. Heíll come up and tell you he missed some things, but he battled through it.

Q: A quarter of the season in, obviously 1-3, how would you assess the season thus far?†
A: Weíre 1-3 and thatís not where we want to be right now. Some games that were close enough that if we made more plays, we mightíve had an opportunity to win.

Q: What did you think of the offensive line?†
A: I thought they battled against a pretty good Ė they got us on a couple third down situations. Chad Wheeler had 94 (Cameron Jordan) most of the game and he did a pretty good job. They battled, but there were some plays in there. If you brought anybody up here, they would tell you theyíd like to have a couple plays back.

Q: What required the IV for Odell prior to halftime? Was he just dehydrated?†
A: Yeah, I donít know. That happens sometimes, but he required an IV so he came in and got it.

Q: You didnít use timeouts there at the end of the first half, what was your thought process there?
A: Yeah, in hindsight, I felt like they were working their way down. In hindsight, maybe I couldíve done it, but we didnít.††

Q: You did a great job early on using heavy formations. What was it about the Saints defense that you saw, Ďhey, we can take advantage of thisí?
A: We wanted to have presence on number 94 (Jordan), so thatís partly why we did it and it worked initially. It worked really throughout, then we went into a throw-only type game there.

Q: When you gave the answer I believe you said a lot of Ďsoft zoneí for Odell not being involved early, should that coverage essentially take him out?
A: I think he got his little catches, I actually called a lot of play actions to get the ball down the field, and those became check-downs because of that soft zone.

Q: The series where Wayne Gallman was in and ended up fumbling, Saquon was on the sideline for a stretch there.
A: Just giving him a little stretch, thatís all.

Q: But you guys had the ball for five minutes in the first quarter, and that was your second possession in the second quarter. Did he need a long break?
A: No, we just want to make sure we keep getting Wayne involved. Certainly, anybody that touches the ball canít fumble it there and he was helping us move it, so thatís a good thing.

Q: It looked like Saquon almost went back on the field. Did you guys decide to keep Wayne out there because you were having success with him?
A: No.

Q: You wanted to give him the whole drive?
A: No, we just wanted to give (Gallman) a little stretch of plays to get in there and get involved, thatís all. And we were actually moving the ball well until we fumbled.

Q: What did you tell your team?
A: Itís between me and the team. Anything we talk about will typically be between me and the team. Weíve got to get back to work tomorrow, and weíve got to try to work and play our way through this.

Q: Odell seemed to show some frustration at the end of the second, early third when things werenít going well. Do you like that in a player?
A: I didnít sense frustration, I saw a competitive guy, keeping himself in it. We all know heís competitive, and he wants to win and he wants to do anything he can to help us.

Q: With your quarterback and with the playmakers you have, why does it seem like almost everything for this offense was hard today? Everything was a struggle, nothing came easily at all.
A: I wouldnít disagree with that, we didnít score enough points. Weíve got to do some things differently maybe.

Q: Jawill Davis took one out of the end zone from pretty deep and only got the ball to the 11. Whatís the thought process you want your returners to think about?
A: Typically, if itís a high kick, theyíve just got to use their judgment. What happens sometimes is a playmaker wants to make a play but certainly in that situation, it wouldíve been better to just stay where he was. Young player. As you know we just moved him up, not even days ago Ė hours ago. He got out there and Iím sure he learned a lot of things that will help him moving forward.

Q: How do you move forward?
A: You just keep working. You just keep working and you play your way out of it and you coach your way out of it. Period. Thatís what you do, and thatís the reality of it, and thatís what I trust our guys and our coaches will do.
We battled. Need to keep battling  
Rflairr : 9/30/2018 9:21 pm : link
Same words ever week. The Art Howe crap is getting old already
How long before OBj  
Doomster : 9/30/2018 9:22 pm : link
blows up this season? He has been open a lot in four games, and Eli just has not got the ball there....

Four games, no td's, and OBj couldn't score against one of the worst passing defenses in the NFL?

The clock is ticking, just a matter of time....
Waste of time these post game pressers are  
DC Gmen Fan : 9/30/2018 9:22 pm : link
guess at this point you take more out of the demeanor than the words.
Does this guy  
UESBLUE : 9/30/2018 9:22 pm : link
really inspire any more confidence than the last guy did?
And remind me again,  
Doomster : 9/30/2018 9:23 pm : link
what other HCing job did the Shurm have?
What do you want him to say?  
GiantFanInTX : 9/30/2018 9:39 pm : link
The fact of the matter is the giants need better players at key positions. Heís not going to get up there and say, ďwe just need better playersĒ. Thatís the real answer. Talent rules the nfl, no matter who your coaches are. If you canít run it or rush the passer then you canít win.
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I am Ninja : 9/30/2018 9:49 pm : link
you dont expect much in these things, obviously, but the rhetoric is just so tiresome (granted hes only been here for a small bit of it). We need to get better, we need to make more plays, we need to look in the mirror. What does it mean? What can we do to get better? Whats the real problem? We know the OL sucks. What literally none of us know is WHY they suck. I know he cant let us behind the curtain, but geez louise at least suggest youve got an idea what the heck the root of the problem is.
re: timeouts  
SHO'NUFF : 10/1/2018 12:41 am : link
in hindsight? you think?

this coach has officially got me worried.
RE: What do you want him to say?  
jcn56 : 10/1/2018 12:56 am : link
In comment 14100499 GiantFanInTX said:
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The fact of the matter is the giants need better players at key positions. Heís not going to get up there and say, ďwe just need better playersĒ. Thatís the real answer. Talent rules the nfl, no matter who your coaches are. If you canít run it or rush the passer then you canít win.


That's some happy horseshit right there. Did the Bucs have better players than we did when they hung 48 on the Saints D?

There's no fucking excuse for the offensive performance today. The Saints D is pretty bad. We scored exactly as many points as the Tyrod Taylor led Browns did. Last I checked, they didn't have Barkley or OBJ on the field when they did, either.

Shurmur doesn't seem to me to be even a bit better than McAdoo. McAdoo had to go, but bringing his clone around doesn't seem to have had much of a positive impact.
RE: RE: What do you want him to say?  
Matt M. : 10/1/2018 1:18 am : link
In comment 14100912 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14100499 GiantFanInTX said:


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The fact of the matter is the giants need better players at key positions. Heís not going to get up there and say, ďwe just need better playersĒ. Thatís the real answer. Talent rules the nfl, no matter who your coaches are. If you canít run it or rush the passer then you canít win.



That's some happy horseshit right there. Did the Bucs have better players than we did when they hung 48 on the Saints D?

There's no fucking excuse for the offensive performance today. The Saints D is pretty bad. We scored exactly as many points as the Tyrod Taylor led Browns did. Last I checked, they didn't have Barkley or OBJ on the field when they did, either.

Shurmur doesn't seem to me to be even a bit better than McAdoo. McAdoo had to go, but bringing his clone around doesn't seem to have had much of a positive impact.
4 games in, I have to agree. I wasn't necessarily expecting a win. But, I was expecting a game that would produce some points. This is a bad D we played that was weak in an area we should have been able to exploit in the middle of the field.
Its too early to tell, lets see what happens and if he turns the ship  
PatersonPlank : 10/1/2018 8:48 am : link
around. A good coach hits adversity, especially early, but the difference is they figure out a way to win
We should definitely try to score  
Jimmy Googs : 10/1/2018 8:54 am : link
more points. Well said...
You want to crap on Shurmur  
section125 : 10/1/2018 8:58 am : link
4 games in?
What was Parcells' record in his first year(or two) and what was his job the year before he was named HC. Imagine if George Young saw 3-12-1 and pulled the plug?
How come he wasnít askd  
5BowlsSoon : 10/1/2018 12:53 pm : link
1.Every team that plays NO goes bonkers on offense. How come we canít?

2. Did you notice on the tapes you reviewed that they had a weakness covering 5 yard passes?

3. Was it mandatory that Eli release the ball under 2.5 seconds?
RE: re: timeouts  
NoGainDayne : 10/1/2018 1:05 pm : link
In comment 14100899 SHO'NUFF said:
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in hindsight? you think?

this coach has officially got me worried.


"Yeah, in hindsight, I felt like they were working their way down. In hindsight, maybe I couldíve done it, but we didnít."

I started a thread on this in particular but this answer is even worse. What does "working their way down" mean. They had 1st and goal at the 8 with 1:44 and two timeouts. Time was not an issue for them at all but it was for us.

The only appropriate answer there isn't maybe in hindsight it's I messed up and we will be cognizant of this going forward.
RE: You want to crap on Shurmur  
NoGainDayne : 10/1/2018 1:11 pm : link
In comment 14101187 section125 said:
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4 games in?
What was Parcells' record in his first year(or two) and what was his job the year before he was named HC. Imagine if George Young saw 3-12-1 and pulled the plug?


I wasn't old enough to watch Parcells first year but from what I know about him he wouldn't have messed up the time out thing at the end of the first half yesterday.

Either he is just an idiot, he wasn't thinking critically or he wasn't paying enough attention. Any of those things is cause for serious concern.

Let's also not forget this isn't his first head coaching gig. He was not good in Cleveland. Not that anyone is but he does have head coaching experience. All we heard about was that this guy was an offensive guru, I don't see any indication of that.
Re:  
bw in dc : 10/1/2018 1:19 pm : link
"I think he (OBJ) got his little catches, I actually called a lot of play actions to get the ball down the field, and those became check-downs because of that soft zone."

Hmmmm. Is Shurmur covering for Eli here or is this a veiled criticism at Check Down Eli?

There are gaps to exploit downfield with the soft zone. You just don't capitulate as an offense and take the check down.

Either the QB isn't able to find those or the offense isn't being schemed the right way.

This is a major, major problem.

If we don't start taking advantage of OBJ's downfield abilities then this is about to get very volcanic - and that is going to be led by OBJ...

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