It's time to face the facts: the Giants are going to be big underdogs in each of their next three games. If we lose that string out, and Eli continues his poor play, are we turning to Lauletta?
I know Eli has been completing a high percentage of his passes. But he constantly checks down. We have difficulty breaking 20, forget getting to 30. Last week against Houston, we scored 20 in the first half and barely anything the rest of the game.
I know what happened last year. This is not last year. Eli's streak is over. The O-Line may still be an issue, but he has no excuses for a lack of weapons, as we have ODB and Barkley (as well as Shepard).
So, with the team out of contention entering the bye (if it goes that way), what do we do? Do we stubbornly stick with Eli, or do we use the bye week to get Lauletta prepared and see what Lauletta he can do?
I also think it could only help Lauletta. At least the team would have some idea about him. That alone has value.
I heard that too. With Shurmur, you need to read between the lines. "Coach speak."
The 2nd half of the schedule is much easier than the first half. I'm willing to hang in there until we are literally mathematically eliminated.
many of the yards are garbage time stat pads. and also a substitute for a lack of run attempts.
The team is not scoring and not moving with rhythm. He was much better in seasons 2008 with a much worse stat line as he led high scoring offenses.
But as a Giants fan it s a legitimate question, don t pay attention to those who try to minimize your point. They somehow believe that ridiculing other posts makes this a better site.
The 2nd half of the schedule is much easier than the first half. I'm willing to hang in there until we are literally mathematically eliminated.
Stats don’t tell the whole story, we’ve got to stop this.
Holy moly.
i’m not going to even blame him. this offensive design is to dink and dunk which makes the comp pct good and the qb rating decent.does not matter the offense for many reasons is a fail.
i’m not going to even blame him. this offensive design is to dink and dunk which makes the comp pct good and the qb rating decent.does not matter the offense for many reasons is a fail.
Oh I am not disagreeing with the notion. I hate using stats to judge a qbs performance. I just find it funny people are saying he is getting yards and tds in garbage time. That I definitely don’t see.
and he got them to 1 score but no played soft on his scoring drive as they knew no way nyg would actually score twice in large marches with limited time.
This team is still a mess-this roster needs major help still. i don’t think it helps to kick Eli as he’s done playing at a high level but hardly the sole reason for the losing but pointing to his stat line as some reason he’s still got a lot left is misleading as well.
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cmon. this is his best qb rating in his career and it’s not even close to his best season. You very well know that.
i’m not going to even blame him. this offensive design is to dink and dunk which makes the comp pct good and the qb rating decent.does not matter the offense for many reasons is a fail.
Oh I am not disagreeing with the notion. I hate using stats to judge a qbs performance. I just find it funny people are saying he is getting yards and tds in garbage time. That I definitely don’t see.
His TD pass to Engram in Dallas wasn’t a garbage time score? His passing yards down 26-10 late yesterday weren’t vs a prevent defense?
and he got them to 1 score but no played soft on his scoring drive as they knew no way nyg would actually score twice in large marches with limited time.
This team is still a mess-this roster needs major help still. i don’t think it helps to kick Eli as he’s done playing at a high level but hardly the sole reason for the losing but pointing to his stat line as some reason he’s still got a lot left is misleading as well.
I’ll respond to your post since it was well thought out not the eagles fans post.
Yes engrams TD was a garbage time one. But for the most part all of Eli stats that have been accumulated have been in close game situations.
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cmon. this is his best qb rating in his career and it’s not even close to his best season. You very well know that.
i’m not going to even blame him. this offensive design is to dink and dunk which makes the comp pct good and the qb rating decent.does not matter the offense for many reasons is a fail.
His passing yards down 26-10 late yesterday weren’t vs a prevent defense?
We scored to make it a one possession game with 4:00 left and it wasn’t against a prevent defense either. But other than that... good work.
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cmon. this is his best qb rating in his career and it’s not even close to his best season. You very well know that.
i’m not going to even blame him. this offensive design is to dink and dunk which makes the comp pct good and the qb rating decent.does not matter the offense for many reasons is a fail.
His passing yards down 26-10 late yesterday weren’t vs a prevent defense?
We scored to make it a one possession game with 4:00 left and it wasn’t against a prevent defense either. But other than that... good work.
It wasn’t against a prevent D? What game were you watching? The middle of the field was so open a high school QB could play pitch and catch.
Hmmm.... so one pass to Odell where there was a blown coverage means it was prevent. Thanks Sherlock.
That’s 4 plays... hey maybe we have a dynamic offense after all?
Why because he can’t hand it off and check it down?
The Cardinals are playing their rookie QB behind a worse oline than ours. So are the Bills.
line and skill players in 04 when he stared.
many of the yards are garbage time stat pads. and also a substitute for a lack of run attempts.
The team is not scoring and not moving with rhythm. He was much better in seasons 2008 with a much worse stat line as he led high scoring offenses.
In 2008 the Giants had a good Oline. So, what's your point?
his rating is much higher now but it’s not indicative of better qb play.
Stats can lie to this end.
It doesn't matter. What is the justification? He is being paid $23M to play. DG and Shurmur said he still has it. If they bench him, then they are trying to lose, which should get them fired.
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behind that OL makes total sense to me.
The Cardinals are playing their rookie QB behind a worse oline than ours. So are the Bills.
I don't know if their OLs are worse. Ours has to be worst in run blocking and close to it in pass blocking.
line and skill players in 04 when he stared.
I don't know about 79, but the 04 team was better than this one. Seriously.
"I was wrong about Eli. I thought we could win with him, but I was wrong. The team wasn't good enough to protect him and so we failed. So I will start Lauletta to see if he is our QB of the future."
THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
the point is rookie qbs don’t need perfection to start.
Oh no! Please let’s not try to actually throw the ball downfield. That could result in a poor record and unable to qualify for the playoffs...
there is a reason to start lauletta in a lost season as nyg has to start evaluating future at position.
the point is rookie qbs don’t need perfection to start.
Luke Petitgout
Jason Whittle
Shaun O'Hara
Chris Snee
David Diehl
That offensive line was miles ahead of this one.
Tiki Barber
Jim Finn
Amani Toomer
Ike Hilliard
Jeremy Shockey
Prime Tiki and rookie Barkley are washes at best. Sure, there's no Beckham there, but these guys aren't chopped liver.
No, the 2004 offense was without a doubt better than this one.
The telling part in that quote, for me, is that it gives insight as to how much input Chris Mara has. We've bandied about whether he's a token nepotism job, a guy with some input, or a guy up to his elbows.
Personally, I think the Maras are a big part of the problem, and they're not going away, so the outlook of the team, for a long time, is not giving me a warm fuzzy feeling. egads, we could be like Dallas: our heyday behind us and the best we can hope for is being also-rans.