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Monday Media Transcript: QB Eli Manning

Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/1/2018 3:53 pm
QB Eli Manning
October 1, 2018

Q: What do you see when you look back at yesterdayís game?
A: You see a lot of good things. I thought our first drive of the game was great. In that drive, nothing spectacular, but just ran the ball, find completions. We didnít have a third down until the very end, and converted when it was third-and-goal. I thought that was a good way to play the game. We tried to hit some play-action. They werenít going to give us some deep plays, so we were throwing it underneath. Fortunately, we just had a couple of plays where we had a penalty, or had a sack, or had something that kind of disrupted the drive. We got into a couple of third-and-longs we didnít covert on. Had a turnover early on in the first half when we were driving. I think thereís good production on first and second down, and good down and distance, and things like that. Itís always a few plays you wish you had back that we missed on. We got to do a better job on some third downs.

Q: If the defense is taking away those deep routes, is it worth it at all to take a shot anyway, even though the coverage isnít ideal for that?
A: That usually leads to bad plays. Thereís ways to get explosive plays without throwing it deep. Itís not like they all have to be go-routes or post-routes. Hitting guys on the move when they do play man, in zones you can still hit plays. In breaking routes and buying time. You can still hit explosive plays when teams are trying to take away the deep shots.

Q: Pat Shurmur said today looking back, he wished he had called more runs for (RB) Saquon Barkley. How would that have helped?
A: Itís tough to say. I think when teams are playing soft and theyíre playing too high, those are good opportunities to run the ball, but also, we were calling things when they were playing soft or playing too high, we were hitting stuff that got out quickly, and youíre getting seven or eight yards a completion, which is what you want to do on first and second down. That gets you in good down and distance. With Saquon, you want to find ways to put the ball in his hands.

Q: Are you happy with the way youíre playing so far this season?
A: Obviously, I can play better, need to play better. I feel like I have a good feel of the offense. Weíre getting completions. Not turning the ball and making mistakes. I think I can do a better job of just feeling the rush or feeling when you have time to maybe push the ball down the field, but I think I do a good job of keeping us in good down and distances and giving us opportunities to make plays.

Q: How do you find that balance?
A: Risks are not what you want to take. You throw the ball down the field when itís not risky, and then thereís forcing things and that leads to turnovers that leads to mistakes. Iím not having shots down the field that Iím not taking. Itís just a matter of whether you want to scramble around, whether you want to buy time and kind of let things, or have a guy open not the way you drew it up. Can guys move around and find areas in the zone to get open on scramble drills. So, just kind of weighing those options sometimes. You can look at it and say, oh, I had time here. Then you can look at other ones and say, you know I wouldnít have had time there to do that. Then, that leads to sacks and fumbles. Itís just kind of having that feel, and feeling the rush and having a good understanding of when you can do it and when you canít.

Q: In the past, youíve had short throws go for long distance? Why is that not working so far?
A: We didnít throw many slants and stuff the other night, just because they were playing some two and stuff. Itís not really what we wanted. We didnít hit them on any slants and different things. We just kind of hit them on a couple short passes when they were playing their zone just to try to get five and six yards a pop. If they were playing man, you have other options to go to different places. Itís just a matter of finding ways to get them the ball. When teams do play man or do come after us, throw accurate balls and keep them moving.

Q: Is it demoralizing to you when these types of games happen? It felt like last yearís struggles when teams are playing Cover 2 and Cover 3 and you guys just keep everything underneath.
A: It didnít feel like a struggle for whatever reason. I think in the first half, we had four drives. The first one was great. Like I said, you donít have to have big plays to have good drives. Youíre getting completions and youíre getting 10 yards, youíre running the ball, youíre getting four or five yards, and you just donít have third downs. You go first down, second down, first down. Thatís what you want to do. You want to get a couple of shots or where you get some plays down the field, and those happen, and you want to take them, and we took some. We just didnít hit any. I tried to hit (WR) Russell Shepard on a go-route down the left sideline, didnít hit it. Threw one to Saquon down the right side, didnít hit it. Itís not like weíre not throwing the ball down the field. When you are playing that way and teams are kind of giving you underneath stuff, you got to stay in good rhythm and you canít have a penalty on first down. Now you have first-and-20. You canít have a sack on second down, now you got third-and-14. Those are the things that you just have to stay in good down-and-distance and play that way. We called shots. Sometimes you call play-action, they took away some of the over routes, they took away some of the post routes, we checked it down. Youíre still getting seven yards, on second-and-six, youíre getting a first down. Those are good plays. You just got to have that great combination. Credit to them. A few times, they did blitz. We picked it up, we hit guys running, and hit some big plays. Hit Odell on an in-breaking route, and we got 30 yards. Hit Odell on a crossing-route, on a little shallow-route, he gets 15 yards. Sterling Shepard on the first drive gets 10 yards. We had some good things, we just got to do a little bit better, and continue to do it throughout the game.

Q: Why was the first drive so effective?
A: Just like I said, no penalties, no drops, no sacks, and just took what the defense gave us. Thatís kind of what they were willing to give up. They were willing to give up completions for seven and eight yards, and you just got to be patient and take them. I thought we did a good job of doing that. A few times, they did bring some pressure. We couldnít get the ball out quick enough. We got a sack and just go into some third-and-long situations where we had some negative plays. For the most part, first and second down was very productive, but we had a few drives where you just had the negative plays. The incompletions and the runs for one or two yards are not the problems. Itís the penalties, itís the sacks that hurt you.

Q: You tend to check down to the receiver on third-and-long plays almost knowing itís not going to pick up a first down. Is that hard to handle?
A: Yeah, sometimes it just depends on the play thatís called, and how theyíre playing it. Sometimes when you want to keep a tight end in or youíre expecting some sort of one-high zone, or expecting pressure and theyíre showing that, and all of a sudden they play zone or they play two-high, you only got three guys in route, thatís where you got to weigh those odds. Do I want to buy time and scramble around and try to get someone that based on this play and their coverage which is not designed to get open, you can maybe move around and create something. We had a third-and-six, called a man play, I threw a check down to (RB) Wayne Gallman (Jr.), we get the first down. It just kind of depends on the check down, it depends on how everything looks and how the protection is holding up where you just kind of weigh the odds of trying to buy time and create something, or try to get a completion and see if we can get a guy to miss or make something happen.

Q: Did you say anything to Odell at halftime? He seemed frustrated going into halftime.
A: Yeah, I talked to him. Nothing specific. Just make sure everybody was ready. Weíre down one score, weíre getting the ball first. They werenít doing anything we werenít prepared for, doing anything we couldnít handle, and just say hey, we got to go out there and get a scoring drive, and weíll be back on track.

Q: At 1-3, is there frustration?
A: Obviously not where we want to be, but I see a team with a lot of new guys and new things going on. I feel like weíre getting close. Weíve played some close games. Weíve played in the fourth quarters and have tight games. Against Houston, we were able to do our jobs and get the win. Some, weíve been right there, had opportunities. Weíre a pass interference from getting the ball back with two and a half minutes yesterday. I see an offensive line, I see an offense thatís making improvements. Thereís not mistakes. Weíre not going the wrong way. Weíve worked hard. I see a team that prepares very hard, they practice hard, theyíre doing all the right things, and we got to keep doing those things. Keep our head up and just find ways to put it all together and find ways to win.
I get what Eli is saying  
LG in NYC : 10/1/2018 3:58 pm : link
but are we (Giants, and Eli specifically) being too focused on what the defense is "willing to give" rather than imposing ourselves on the defense?

Perhaps that is just cliche and not applicable to real world football, but with our weapons it seems to me we should be dictating to the defense and making them adjust rather than us just taking what they'll give us.
Can sense some real frustration from both Eli  
BBelle21 : 10/1/2018 4:01 pm : link
And Shurmur. Thereís no doubt in my mind that Eli would attack the defense if the Oline was just a bit better. As it is now, and like Romo said, thereís just no way Eli can take a seven step drop and allow these long developing plays to happen. Gotta be frustrating to just not say it bluntly to the world.
The reporters are really working hard  
BBelle21 : 10/1/2018 4:03 pm : link
To get Eli and or Shurmur to say what most everyone can see.
Why is it the Giants always have all the answers after the game.  
Blue21 : 10/1/2018 4:15 pm : link
During the game they look lost.
A great teammate and gentleman to the very end  
Jimmy Googs : 10/1/2018 4:19 pm : link
though I am not keen on his view of the value of the checkdown and taking the chance we make the other guy miss a tackle.

How about seeing if OBJ can draw the PI 40+ yards down the field too...
RE: I get what Eli is saying  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/1/2018 4:21 pm : link
In comment 14102231 LG in NYC said:
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but are we (Giants, and Eli specifically) being too focused on what the defense is "willing to give" rather than imposing ourselves on the defense?

Perhaps that is just cliche and not applicable to real world football, but with our weapons it seems to me we should be dictating to the defense and making them adjust rather than us just taking what they'll give us.


When the offensive line literally can't support certain types of offensive plays, "what the defense is willing to give" rings true. You can not dictate anything.
TTH  
LG in NYC : 10/1/2018 4:24 pm : link
Perhaps we watched different games yesterday... we weren't 5 blocks of granite, but our OLine was much better in pass blocking yesterday.

Quite often, Eli was checking down before any defender was anywhere near him.

this is the NFL - there are very few great OLines.

There is no value in just repeating the same excuses. Watch the game and then judge what actually happened.
I think the OL was good enough to make SOME plays.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/1/2018 4:29 pm : link
But it is still true that they're limited in what they can do. The run blocking wasnt there yesterday, not consistently anyway. Can't trust them for slow-developing plays either.
This is pretty damning  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/1/2018 4:35 pm : link
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Q: You tend to check down to the receiver on third-and-long plays almost knowing itís not going to pick up a first down. Is that hard to handle?
A: Yeah, sometimes it just depends on the play thatís called, and how theyíre playing it. Sometimes when you want to keep a tight end in or youíre expecting some sort of one-high zone, or expecting pressure and theyíre showing that, and all of a sudden they play zone or they play two-high, you only got three guys in route, thatís where you got to weigh those odds. Do I want to buy time and scramble around and try to get someone that based on this play and their coverage which is not designed to get open, you can maybe move around and create something. We had a third-and-six, called a man play, I threw a check down to (RB) Wayne Gallman (Jr.), we get the first down. It just kind of depends on the check down, it depends on how everything looks and how the protection is holding up where you just kind of weigh the odds of trying to buy time and create something, or try to get a completion and see if we can get a guy to miss or make something happen.


Of course you don't want to scramble. You have no scramble ability left, and this is what people who think Eli is part of the problem see.
TTH - I'm not sure what you expect  
LG in NYC : 10/1/2018 4:36 pm : link
running game was not great, yes. But Eli was generally upright and unhassled for most of yesterday.
Bottom line, you have to make the plays you can when they are available. You can't consistently miss open receivers and you can't constantly check down when there are plays to be made downfield.

I am not one who subscribes to the idea that Eli is physically diminished (other than lack of mobility)... but his decision making leaves a lot to be desired. I believe he is playing scared.
RE: TTH - I'm not sure what you expect  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/1/2018 4:37 pm : link
In comment 14102296 LG in NYC said:
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running game was not great, yes. But Eli was generally upright and unhassled for most of yesterday.
Bottom line, you have to make the plays you can when they are available. You can't consistently miss open receivers and you can't constantly check down when there are plays to be made downfield.

I am not one who subscribes to the idea that Eli is physically diminished (other than lack of mobility)... but his decision making leaves a lot to be desired. I believe he is playing scared.


We agree.
Other offenses  
Thegratefulhead : 10/1/2018 4:37 pm : link
Seem to be able to come back from 2nd and 3rd and long against us. We need our 23 million dollar man to bail us out once in a while with a perfect pass. You remember the saying, you cannot defend a perfect pass. It is still true. Make a play FFS.
Where is the Francessa interview with Eli?  
mdc1 : 10/1/2018 4:55 pm : link
this afternoon?
RE: This is pretty damning  
HomerJones45 : 10/1/2018 5:01 pm : link
In comment 14102295 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Q: You tend to check down to the receiver on third-and-long plays almost knowing itís not going to pick up a first down. Is that hard to handle?
A: Yeah, sometimes it just depends on the play thatís called, and how theyíre playing it. Sometimes when you want to keep a tight end in or youíre expecting some sort of one-high zone, or expecting pressure and theyíre showing that, and all of a sudden they play zone or they play two-high, you only got three guys in route, thatís where you got to weigh those odds. Do I want to buy time and scramble around and try to get someone that based on this play and their coverage which is not designed to get open, you can maybe move around and create something. We had a third-and-six, called a man play, I threw a check down to (RB) Wayne Gallman (Jr.), we get the first down. It just kind of depends on the check down, it depends on how everything looks and how the protection is holding up where you just kind of weigh the odds of trying to buy time and create something, or try to get a completion and see if we can get a guy to miss or make something happen.



Of course you don't want to scramble. You have no scramble ability left, and this is what people who think Eli is part of the problem see.
When you are trying to hit long passes to Russell Sheppard,you are screwed anyway. Remember when our wideouts were Cruz, Nicks and Manningham? Or Toomer, Burress and Smith?
RE: RE: This is pretty damning  
mdc1 : 10/1/2018 5:18 pm : link
In comment 14102337 HomerJones45 said:
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Q: You tend to check down to the receiver on third-and-long plays almost knowing itís not going to pick up a first down. Is that hard to handle?
A: Yeah, sometimes it just depends on the play thatís called, and how theyíre playing it. Sometimes when you want to keep a tight end in or youíre expecting some sort of one-high zone, or expecting pressure and theyíre showing that, and all of a sudden they play zone or they play two-high, you only got three guys in route, thatís where you got to weigh those odds. Do I want to buy time and scramble around and try to get someone that based on this play and their coverage which is not designed to get open, you can maybe move around and create something. We had a third-and-six, called a man play, I threw a check down to (RB) Wayne Gallman (Jr.), we get the first down. It just kind of depends on the check down, it depends on how everything looks and how the protection is holding up where you just kind of weigh the odds of trying to buy time and create something, or try to get a completion and see if we can get a guy to miss or make something happen.



Of course you don't want to scramble. You have no scramble ability left, and this is what people who think Eli is part of the problem see.

When you are trying to hit long passes to Russell Sheppard,you are screwed anyway. Remember when our wideouts were Cruz, Nicks and Manningham? Or Toomer, Burress and Smith?


be careful, Eli is a WCO system now. Think about that. 2 seasons, previously he was in a stretch the field passing game.
I love Eli  
GIANTS128 : 10/1/2018 5:32 pm : link
But lets face it. He is unwilling to stay in the pocket for that extra second and hit the the guy downfield..it is what it is right now..and its not good
RE: I love Eli  
mdc1 : 10/1/2018 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14102371 GIANTS128 said:
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But lets face it. He is unwilling to stay in the pocket for that extra second and hit the the guy downfield..it is what it is right now..and its not good


Eli has never been the same since he got jacked up in that Jets preseason game. He had his David Carr moment on that play. He is getting paid now, no incentive to do shit beyond what is acceptable. Get used to it.
We all love eli for our last SB  
GIANTS128 : 10/1/2018 5:51 pm : link
My point is is that he has to stay in the pocket to make that play at least a couple times again and hes not doing that. I don't know if it's by design or he just hes unwilling to do it
Shumur said at the beginning of the season  
joe48 : 10/1/2018 7:01 pm : link
We will go as far as the OL takes us. Eli is not going to step into a throw with a defensive lineman staring him in the face at age 37.
RE: Shumur said at the beginning of the season  
mdc1 : 10/1/2018 7:10 pm : link
In comment 14102470 joe48 said:
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We will go as far as the OL takes us. Eli is not going to step into a throw with a defensive lineman staring him in the face at age 37.


Then why is he out there?
Why Donít You Count The Number ¬†
NJLCO : 10/1/2018 7:54 pm : link
How many times did he get knocked on his ass trying to complete a 3 step drop yesterday. You got to be shitting me when you say he would not step into a pass with a d lineman in front of him. The O line canít control any line of scrimmage. They get beat on runs and or passes. Wake the fuck up.







RE: RE: I love Eli  
GiantGrit : 10/1/2018 10:05 pm : link
In comment 14102386 mdc1 said:
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But lets face it. He is unwilling to stay in the pocket for that extra second and hit the the guy downfield..it is what it is right now..and its not good



Eli has never been the same since he got jacked up in that Jets preseason game. He had his David Carr moment on that play. He is getting paid now, no incentive to do shit beyond what is acceptable. Get used to it.


I think the Chris Baker hit two years ago at home against the Skins really shook him. He got clobbered.
RE: RE: Shumur said at the beginning of the season  
GiantGrit : 10/1/2018 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14102483 mdc1 said:
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We will go as far as the OL takes us. Eli is not going to step into a throw with a defensive lineman staring him in the face at age 37.



Then why is he out there?


Exactly this. There are times in a game when you have no choice but to make a throw knowing you are going to take a hit. Eli refuses to do so now. How can you win with that?
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