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The excuse well for Eli is running dry.
I dont understand this statement. Its basically saying the reason is because of Eli. Eli plays a big part, which I am not seeing anyone say differently. But the offense is still 11 guys on the field with a handful of coaches.
I keep hearing changing the QB is the answer. Well changing the OL, skill guys, and coaches hasnt been the answer - what makes the QB the sole answer.
Cleveland has been searching how long for a QB? Futility doesnt end with change.
I fully expect this to be Eli's final year with the Giants, however I still see futility for awhile due to the fact we have glaring holes in many areas. I think Giant fans overvalue guys like SS and EE who are nice players but limited. We have a great WR and RB, a RB who is struggle mightily to develop a consistent run game.
I see very vanilla game plans. I dont see much adjusting.
There's a shitload of problem, inlcuing the QB. But the majority of people are looking at ONE position when we should be looking at fixing MULTIPLE ones.
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But you keep referencing Keenum and if you look at his game log from last year, it didn't seem like it took him long to get comfortable.
Keenum 1st 4 games last year:
78/124 62% 895 yards (7.2 y/a), 4 TD's, 0 INT's
Eli's 1st 4 games this year:
112/151 74% 1055 yards (6.98 y/a), 4 TD's, 1 INT
Again, this is not comparing the two athletes, it is comparing their performance in the system.
Considering that Keenum was a journeyman QB who was thrown to the fire replacing Bradford, you would think that Eli's stats might be a bit better, no? Hell, Bradford looked good in the first two games before he got hurt in Minny.
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But you keep referencing Keenum and if you look at his game log from last year, it didn't seem like it took him long to get comfortable.
Keenum 1st 4 games last year:
78/124 62% 895 yards (7.2 y/a), 4 TD's, 0 INT's
Eli's 1st 4 games this year:
112/151 74% 1055 yards (6.98 y/a), 4 TD's, 1 INT
Again, this is not comparing the two athletes, it is comparing their performance in the system.
Considering that Keenum was a journeyman QB who was thrown to the fire replacing Bradford, you would think that Eli's stats might be a bit better, no? Hell, Bradford looked good in the first two games before he got hurt in Minny.
I'm saying he is running the offense as it is designed, currently.
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The excuse well for Eli is running dry.
I dont understand this statement. Its basically saying the reason is because of Eli. Eli plays a big part, which I am not seeing anyone say differently. But the offense is still 11 guys on the field with a handful of coaches.
I keep hearing changing the QB is the answer. Well changing the OL, skill guys, and coaches hasnt been the answer - what makes the QB the sole answer.
Cleveland has been searching how long for a QB? Futility doesnt end with change.
I fully expect this to be Eli's final year with the Giants, however I still see futility for awhile due to the fact we have glaring holes in many areas. I think Giant fans overvalue guys like SS and EE who are nice players but limited. We have a great WR and RB, a RB who is struggle mightily to develop a consistent run game.
I see very vanilla game plans. I dont see much adjusting.
There's a shitload of problem, inlcuing the QB. But the majority of people are looking at ONE position when we should be looking at fixing MULTIPLE ones.
It's pretty easy to understand.
Everything around him has changed, yet the offense has continued to struggle. He's the constant.
How many more coaches and sets of players do we need to go through until we're willing to admit this?
All the posters who keep saying the OL isn't good enough - well, guess what, this is what most offensive lines look like in 2018. If you want a dominant, elite offensive line, we're going to need about 2-3 more years to get that on the field.
Then Eli is 40 years old.
Cleveland's offense looked INEPT with Taylor on the field. All everyone said was "wow that offensive line is awful!" Then they dropped 40+ with Mayfield in his first NFL start.
When was the last time the Giants dropped 40+ points?
This offense is not producing. It hasn't produced. Different systems, different coordinators, different skill players.
My argument isn't that Eli is the ONLY problem. My argument is that if we can't score points with him, we should perhaps start thinking about his successor sooner than later.
Yes, this is what I'm saying.
These are plays you only get a couple of chances to make in a game and you can't miss them when they're there.
He didn't even attempt to get the ball down the field.
These are TD passes for a lot of other QB's because they either buy the extra 2 seconds to get a better throwing lane or they hang in the pocket just a little longer.
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It's pretty easy to understand.
Everything around him has changed, yet the offense has continued to struggle. He's the constant.
How many more coaches and sets of players do we need to go through until we're willing to admit this?
All the posters who keep saying the OL isn't good enough - well, guess what, this is what most offensive lines look like in 2018. If you want a dominant, elite offensive line, we're going to need about 2-3 more years to get that on the field.
Then Eli is 40 years old.
Cleveland's offense looked INEPT with Taylor on the field. All everyone said was "wow that offensive line is awful!" Then they dropped 40+ with Mayfield in his first NFL start.
When was the last time the Giants dropped 40+ points?
This offense is not producing. It hasn't produced. Different systems, different coordinators, different skill players.
My argument isn't that Eli is the ONLY problem. My argument is that if we can't score points with him, we should perhaps start thinking about his successor sooner than later.
Changing players doesnt always equate to better results. Thats all I am going to say. A bad offensive line has been constant for many many many years. Irregardless of players.
These are plays you only get a couple of chances to make in a game and you can't miss them when they're there.
He didn't even attempt to get the ball down the field.
These are TD passes for a lot of other QB's because they either buy the extra 2 seconds to get a better throwing lane or they hang in the pocket just a little longer. Link - ( New Window )
Well, we'll see if that changes as the year progresses, whether he sees this in his film study and progresses from it.
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It's pretty easy to understand.
Everything around him has changed, yet the offense has continued to struggle. He's the constant.
How many more coaches and sets of players do we need to go through until we're willing to admit this?
All the posters who keep saying the OL isn't good enough - well, guess what, this is what most offensive lines look like in 2018. If you want a dominant, elite offensive line, we're going to need about 2-3 more years to get that on the field.
Then Eli is 40 years old.
Cleveland's offense looked INEPT with Taylor on the field. All everyone said was "wow that offensive line is awful!" Then they dropped 40+ with Mayfield in his first NFL start.
When was the last time the Giants dropped 40+ points?
This offense is not producing. It hasn't produced. Different systems, different coordinators, different skill players.
My argument isn't that Eli is the ONLY problem. My argument is that if we can't score points with him, we should perhaps start thinking about his successor sooner than later.
Changing players doesnt always equate to better results. Thats all I am going to say. A bad offensive line has been constant for many many many years. Irregardless of players.
Maybe it's not the offensive line as much as you think it is.
How many more years should we spend firing coaches and swapping new players in and out to see when we can finally put a decent offense on the field again?
2 years? 3 years?
The window is rapidly closing if it's not already shut, and the Giants are standing still hoping Eli is reborn while they try to patch together the OL, etc. I too would rather pull the plug sooner than later.
These are plays you only get a couple of chances to make in a game and you can't miss them when they're there.
He didn't even attempt to get the ball down the field.
These are TD passes for a lot of other QB's because they either buy the extra 2 seconds to get a better throwing lane or they hang in the pocket just a little longer. Link - ( New Window )
See, this is why I hate tlking QB play. This play that is being broken down is a play to Russell Shepard who becomes wide open AFTER the ball was thrown. You see the defenders moving forward and plus Shepard isnt EVEN LOOKING for the ball. If Eli stares him down - you dont think the defenders would react???
I dont know. I am sure there are plenty of times Eli misses guys for whatever reason. I hope for the people here he is gone after this year. And I pray that the next QB can do things that people want. I suspect that we will see a ton of struggles next year whoever the QB is.
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I'm saying he is running the offense as it is designed, currently.
So it's really Shurmur holding Eli back at this point. Have fun on your crusade Britt.
Every week I see teams have huge amount of attempts to make plays. And for us to be done after missing 1-2 tells me a bigger picture.
I just don't see how you can sell it any way that makes sense. Either:
- The Giants knew the roster was rotten and was in need of a large infusion of talent, specifically on the OL. They knew they needed at least 2 seasons to turn it around.
----If this is the case, then Eli should have been traded or let go. He won't last until that turnaround is complete.
- The Giants thought they could rebuild the OL quickly, and the addition of Barkley would add an element to the offense that would help Eli out.
----If this is the case, they were dead wrong.
We're fucked. Whether you think Eli is a big part of the problem or not, it's clear he's not going to be part of the solution. Now is the time to pray these fuckers didn't completely blow their QB evaluations, because if they did, this is going to look even worse than it already does.
The hand wringing over 1-2 plays a game is just asinine.
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If Eli can't make these reads, he shouldn't be playing. I'm sorry.
These are plays you only get a couple of chances to make in a game and you can't miss them when they're there.
He didn't even attempt to get the ball down the field.
These are TD passes for a lot of other QB's because they either buy the extra 2 seconds to get a better throwing lane or they hang in the pocket just a little longer. Link - ( New Window )
See, this is why I hate tlking QB play. This play that is being broken down is a play to Russell Shepard who becomes wide open AFTER the ball was thrown. You see the defenders moving forward and plus Shepard isnt EVEN LOOKING for the ball. If Eli stares him down - you dont think the defenders would react???
I dont know. I am sure there are plenty of times Eli misses guys for whatever reason. I hope for the people here he is gone after this year. And I pray that the next QB can do things that people want. I suspect that we will see a ton of struggles next year whoever the QB is.
Who is asking Eli to stare his target down?
You don't see a play there to be made?
I am seeing tons of plays made in the NFL when QB's are able to create a couple of extra seconds. Eli is not capable of doing that.
And no, this isn't the "mobile QB" buzzword. I'm not looking for a guy who is going to take off running all the time. I'm talking about being able to buy an extra couple of seconds if your protection isn't perfect.
Eli doens't do that and we miss on a lot of potential plays as a result.
The big play has been noticeably absent for a long time. And I'm not talking about quick slants that Beckham takes to the house by outrunning the entire defense.
We were 3rd to last in 20+ yard plays last year and are in the bottom 3rd of the league so far again this year.
Who is asking Eli to stare his target down?
You don't see a play there to be made?
I am seeing tons of plays made in the NFL when QB's are able to create a couple of extra seconds. Eli is not capable of doing that.
And no, this isn't the "mobile QB" buzzword. I'm not looking for a guy who is going to take off running all the time. I'm talking about being able to buy an extra couple of seconds if your protection isn't perfect.
Eli doens't do that and we miss on a lot of potential plays as a result.
The big play has been noticeably absent for a long time. And I'm not talking about quick slants that Beckham takes to the house by outrunning the entire defense.
We were 3rd to last in 20+ yard plays last year and are in the bottom 3rd of the league so far again this year.
Arc,
This could be a play Eli missed. My point is if we only have a few plays like this a game, we have bigger issues than just a QB. You should have a few opportunities like this a drive/quarter. Not a game.
Honestly, if I had been in a coma until this today and watched this season's games, you wouldn't be able to convince me they had changed the FO and HC from last season. The results look every bit as shitty as they were last year.
I just don't see how you can sell it any way that makes sense. Either:
- The Giants knew the roster was rotten and was in need of a large infusion of talent, specifically on the OL. They knew they needed at least 2 seasons to turn it around.
----If this is the case, then Eli should have been traded or let go. He won't last until that turnaround is complete.
- The Giants thought they could rebuild the OL quickly, and the addition of Barkley would add an element to the offense that would help Eli out.
----If this is the case, they were dead wrong.
We're fucked. Whether you think Eli is a big part of the problem or not, it's clear he's not going to be part of the solution. Now is the time to pray these fuckers didn't completely blow their QB evaluations, because if they did, this is going to look even worse than it already does.
Why are those the only viable options?
Maybe they knew the roster was rotten and in need of a large infusion of talent and felt Barkley >>> Darnold/Rosen/Allen. If they didn't view anyone in that trio as being a franchise QB, why overreach for them? That's how teams end up with Blake Bortles instead of Mack, Donald, Beckham, etc.
Now it's only been 4 games, but Barkley (IMO) certainly has the potential to be in that Mack/Donald/Beckham class. Who knows with the QB trio though. Gotta give QBs at least 2 years (Goff looked like a career backup his rookie season).
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Who is asking Eli to stare his target down?
You don't see a play there to be made?
I am seeing tons of plays made in the NFL when QB's are able to create a couple of extra seconds. Eli is not capable of doing that.
And no, this isn't the "mobile QB" buzzword. I'm not looking for a guy who is going to take off running all the time. I'm talking about being able to buy an extra couple of seconds if your protection isn't perfect.
Eli doens't do that and we miss on a lot of potential plays as a result.
The big play has been noticeably absent for a long time. And I'm not talking about quick slants that Beckham takes to the house by outrunning the entire defense.
We were 3rd to last in 20+ yard plays last year and are in the bottom 3rd of the league so far again this year.
Arc,
This could be a play Eli missed. My point is if we only have a few plays like this a game, we have bigger issues than just a QB. You should have a few opportunities like this a drive/quarter. Not a game.
A few opportunities like this per drive? No way.
You don't get these many times a game, and this is where a lot of the missing points are.
We aren't connecting on these.
How many times can you recall us hitting on a big play downfield for a touchdown recently?
Not quick slants that go the distance. Throws that go 30+ yards downfield into the endzone for a score.
It's not happening now. It wasn't happening last year and it didn't happen the year before, either.
We have the players to make the big plays - but we aren't making them.
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I get it - we don't want to believe the Giants are in deep shit. We want to think that they've got this figured out, but just need time.
I just don't see how you can sell it any way that makes sense. Either:
- The Giants knew the roster was rotten and was in need of a large infusion of talent, specifically on the OL. They knew they needed at least 2 seasons to turn it around.
----If this is the case, then Eli should have been traded or let go. He won't last until that turnaround is complete.
- The Giants thought they could rebuild the OL quickly, and the addition of Barkley would add an element to the offense that would help Eli out.
----If this is the case, they were dead wrong.
We're fucked. Whether you think Eli is a big part of the problem or not, it's clear he's not going to be part of the solution. Now is the time to pray these fuckers didn't completely blow their QB evaluations, because if they did, this is going to look even worse than it already does.
Why are those the only viable options?
Maybe they knew the roster was rotten and in need of a large infusion of talent and felt Barkley >>> Darnold/Rosen/Allen. If they didn't view anyone in that trio as being a franchise QB, why overreach for them? That's how teams end up with Blake Bortles instead of Mack, Donald, Beckham, etc.
Now it's only been 4 games, but Barkley (IMO) certainly has the potential to be in that Mack/Donald/Beckham class. Who knows with the QB trio though. Gotta give QBs at least 2 years (Goff looked like a career backup his rookie season).
Maybe (see my last paragraph). But at that point, why keep Eli around? The cap hit would have amounted to $11.5M according to OTC. You'd get money back, and could play a scrub QB (like Webb?) for a season, knowing the results would be terrible and you'd be back at the well in 2019 for a QB. What was the point of keeping Eli around and subjecting him and us to this shit? A combination of an immobile QB and a useless OL doesn't benefit anyone.
A few opportunities like this per drive? No way.
You don't get these many times a game, and this is where a lot of the missing points are.
We aren't connecting on these.
How many times can you recall us hitting on a big play downfield for a touchdown recently?
Not quick slants that go the distance. Throws that go 30+ yards downfield into the endzone for a score.
It's not happening now. It wasn't happening last year and it didn't happen the year before, either.
We have the players to make the big plays - but we aren't making them.
We have one player who can go deep for the scores you want. The player is often doubled. SS cant do it. EE isnt the guy either. Latimer may get 1-2 this year.
So is this about appeasing OBJ or making the Giants better?
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He has been open several times down the field and isn't getting the football.
So is this about appeasing OBJ or making the Giants better?
It's about making plays down the field when they are there to be made. It has absolutely nothing to do with appeasing OBJ. We're a better team when we get him the football and we're not doing a good job of that right now.
Eli has been around for about a decade and a half now. He shouldn't need half a season to learn a new offense when several other QB's in this league are doing more under the same circumstances.
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He has been open several times down the field and isn't getting the football.
So is this about appeasing OBJ or making the Giants better?
It's about making plays down the field when they are there to be made. It has absolutely nothing to do with appeasing OBJ. We're a better team when we get him the football and we're not doing a good job of that right now.
Beckham is 4th in the NFL in catches. Your beef isnt getting him the ball, its where he is getting it. Thats a coaching, design problem.
Did you even read the material acr wrote above? It's well reasoned and measured.
This give him the benefit-of-the-doubt-for-services-rendered routine has to end. I don't give a fly f-ck what Eli did 6 years ago, I care what he's doing now. And right now, he's not making enough plays.
And you can't create football utopia where everything is ideal - great oline, great receivers, great RBs, great scheme, great coaching, great weather, great officiating, great luck, etc. The cap and God won't allow it...
You can't blame everything on the coaches and the offensive line.
Beckham is as good a WR as there is in football at gaining separation and getting open. Why are we only able to get him the football within 10-15 yards of the LOS? He's not running any routes deeper than that?
Nonsense.
The last two games have shown that some moderation is warranted from both extremes.
To me, the balance of the evidence to this point would suggest that it was 100% reasonable to question if retaining the player at $22M was prudent. But I remain hopeful that some increased reps for the new offense and a more favorable schedule ahead may lead to some meaningful improvement.
You can't blame everything on the coaches and the offensive line.
Beckham is as good a WR as there is in football at gaining separation and getting open. Why are we only able to get him the football within 10-15 yards of the LOS? He's not running any routes deeper than that?
Nonsense.
Well....
Minnesota’s offense was all predicated on staying on schedule. They weren’t built to come from behind or convert a lot of 3rd and longs (few teams are built for this). Their run/pass split was one of the most balanced in the league last year as they were near 50% of runs and passes.
Getting small chunks of yards that set up 2nd or 3rd and manageable kept them from getting behind the sticks early in drives.
Low risk plays led to low turnovers
Low risk doesn’t necessarily mean no big plays, as Keenum still had his fair share of big plays. However, the bread and butter of the offense was a short/intermediate passing game that were inherently lower risk passes.
This approach allowed Keenum to finish top 5 in interception rate, along with Drew Brees and Tom Brady (who employ similar offensive strategies).
Get the ball to players in space
We’ll dig into it more in a later post, but Case Keenum and the Minnesota offense was one of the best in the league at generating YAC for the offense. They did this by scheming players into space where they could go make a play.
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No, it's not all coaching. The QB is missing throws or not even seeing him when he's open down the field.
You can't blame everything on the coaches and the offensive line.
Beckham is as good a WR as there is in football at gaining separation and getting open. Why are we only able to get him the football within 10-15 yards of the LOS? He's not running any routes deeper than that?
Nonsense.
Well....
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Staying on schedule is huge
Minnesota’s offense was all predicated on staying on schedule. They weren’t built to come from behind or convert a lot of 3rd and longs (few teams are built for this). Their run/pass split was one of the most balanced in the league last year as they were near 50% of runs and passes.
Getting small chunks of yards that set up 2nd or 3rd and manageable kept them from getting behind the sticks early in drives.
Low risk plays led to low turnovers
Low risk doesn’t necessarily mean no big plays, as Keenum still had his fair share of big plays. However, the bread and butter of the offense was a short/intermediate passing game that were inherently lower risk passes.
This approach allowed Keenum to finish top 5 in interception rate, along with Drew Brees and Tom Brady (who employ similar offensive strategies).
Get the ball to players in space
We’ll dig into it more in a later post, but Case Keenum and the Minnesota offense was one of the best in the league at generating YAC for the offense. They did this by scheming players into space where they could go make a play.
Part of what you bolded highlights that Keenum still hit on his share of big plays.
Where are ours?
You can't blame everything on the coaches and the offensive line.
Beckham is as good a WR as there is in football at gaining separation and getting open. Why are we only able to get him the football within 10-15 yards of the LOS? He's not running any routes deeper than that?
Nonsense.
Well do you know the breakdown of deep routes compared to short routes? I dont know. I know you dont. OBJ, Eli, and Shurmur have said that defense are trying to limit OBJ from getting behind them, so I think that should answer it.
And AGAIN, Eli has missed him. That seems to be lost by people ripping Eli left and right. Eli has missed OBJ a couple times. he missed him for a TD in the Jacksonville game. He missed him twice in the first half for easy completions which are totally Eli's fault. But man this play to Shepard is going to be overanalyzed to death like the tipped ball in week 1.
Open receivers are missed a lot during games for various reasons. It sucks, but it happens.
Usually its unluckly for a new QB to replace a team legend when the legend leaves - but the next Giants QB has it made in the shade. If he performs - great he is doing well and will do things Eli couldnt. If he struggles - people can just say well Eli struggled for years.
Like I said, I'm hopeful that as player become more comfortable, maybe they will come.
Jon, I’m not 100% positive but I believe this may be incorrect. The numbers you are currently looking at on Spotrac or the like are treating his current year salary and roster bonus as part of the dead cap because they’ve passed as of the present date.
My understanding is that cutting bait prior to 3/18/18 was a savings of roughly $10m.
Again, could be wrong.
We're hoping Eli can even just be Case Keenum now.
The bar just keeps getting lower and lower...
I'm comparing what they are being asked to do within the offense that they are operating, with similar results.
All that Minnesota stuff is right there for you. That's what Shurmur ran there, and that's what he's running here.
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No, it's not all coaching. The QB is missing throws or not even seeing him when he's open down the field.
You can't blame everything on the coaches and the offensive line.
Beckham is as good a WR as there is in football at gaining separation and getting open. Why are we only able to get him the football within 10-15 yards of the LOS? He's not running any routes deeper than that?
Nonsense.
Well do you know the breakdown of deep routes compared to short routes? I dont know. I know you dont. OBJ, Eli, and Shurmur have said that defense are trying to limit OBJ from getting behind them, so I think that should answer it.
And AGAIN, Eli has missed him. That seems to be lost by people ripping Eli left and right. Eli has missed OBJ a couple times. he missed him for a TD in the Jacksonville game. He missed him twice in the first half for easy completions which are totally Eli's fault. But man this play to Shepard is going to be overanalyzed to death like the tipped ball in week 1.
Open receivers are missed a lot during games for various reasons. It sucks, but it happens.
Usually its unluckly for a new QB to replace a team legend when the legend leaves - but the next Giants QB has it made in the shade. If he performs - great he is doing well and will do things Eli couldnt. If he struggles - people can just say well Eli struggled for years.
We are at a point now where we can't afford the misses. Some teams can. We clearly cannot.
So, if Eli is going to miss these big plays when they are there - what are we relying on him for?
The offense is now at a point where the only plays that have a chance are the ones that are perfectly blocked and executed. There is no improv aspect to Eli's game. If a play is off schedule, it fails. That means that we almost HAVE to hit on the few opportunities like these that present themselves. Otherwise we are hoping for long dink and dunk drives which, again, are difficult because the more plays you run, the more the odds of a mistake or a turnover will increase.
This doesn't seem like an offense that is just going to "click" any time soon to me. But, I guess we can just keep waiting and hoping... we've been doing it the last few years. What's a few more.
But right now, early, he is operating within and learning the offense. I hope he will get more comfortable and things will open up.
Shurmur said it, Eli said it, Keenum said it.
That's the philosophy and how they are running the offense... right, wrong, or indifferent.
Okay.
We are at a point now where we can't afford the misses. Some teams can. We clearly cannot.
So, if Eli is going to miss these big plays when they are there - what are we relying on him for?
The offense is now at a point where the only plays that have a chance are the ones that are perfectly blocked and executed. There is no improv aspect to Eli's game. If a play is off schedule, it fails. That means that we almost HAVE to hit on the few opportunities like these that present themselves. Otherwise we are hoping for long dink and dunk drives which, again, are difficult because the more plays you run, the more the odds of a mistake or a turnover will increase.
This doesn't seem like an offense that is just going to "click" any time soon to me. But, I guess we can just keep waiting and hoping... we've been doing it the last few years. What's a few more.
Its probably going to be his last year here. So the hand wringing should be constrained at least some.
I am not singingly you out, I am speaking in general. A lot of people want Eli gone, and I fully understand it. I just hope people realize that by replacing him, doesnt mean success is guaranteed. Especially instantly.
I truly wished they drafted Darnold. Eli could have started for a bunch of games until we were eliminated, Darnold could have taken over and start in 2019. But unfortunatley our GM didnt see that.