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pjcas18 : 10/2/2018 10:41 am
always love hockey season even though the Canadiens will be brutal.

Habs @ Leafs, B's @ Caps, Flames @ Canucks, and Ducks @ Sharks

Some interesting games to start.


My predictions on standings (just by conference) * = playoffs
East:
*Tampa
*Toronto
*Washington
*Boston
*Pittsburgh
*CBJ
*Buffalo
*NJ
Philly
Florida
Carolina
Detroit
Islanders
Rangers
Habs
Ottawa

West:
*SJS
*Nashville
*Winnipeg
*Kings
*Calgary
*Chicago
*Canucks
*Dallas
Minnesota
Colorado
St Louis
Vegas (FU Vegas)
Anaheim
Edmonton
Arizona


Conference Finals:
East: Tampa vs Toronto
West: SJS vs Winnipeg

Finals: Tampa vs Win, Tampa wins

Awards:
Hart: McDavid
Lindsay: Crosby
Ross: Laine
Selke: Kopitar
Vezina: Martin Jones
Norris: Subban
Calder: Kotkaniemi
Adams: Maurice
Byng: who cares

That's it.
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All I know is that the Rangers are going to be bad  
Greg from LI : 10/2/2018 10:43 am : link
Really, really bad
FU Vegas? Why the hate?  
Jints in Carolina : 10/2/2018 10:47 am : link
I hope this is the year The Canes finally go back to the playoffs. Been too goddamn long.
Sens will finish above Habs  
Andy in Halifax : 10/2/2018 10:47 am : link
...

that's about all I have to hope for this season. I'm not overly confident about that prediction, but the Habs do have a shit roster. Especially up front. But they are considerably better on the blueline and in net compared to Ottawa.
I'm a little surprised  
pjcas18 : 10/2/2018 10:49 am : link
the Rangers didn't go with more youth. specifically Andersson.

I think the Rangers will deal Vesey, Spooner, and possibly even Namestnikov in addition to others.
RE: FU Vegas? Why the hate?  
pjcas18 : 10/2/2018 10:51 am : link
In comment 14103196 Jints in Carolina said:
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I hope this is the year The Canes finally go back to the playoffs. Been too goddamn long.


just joking. I have no hate for LVG, great story last year, and a lesson to a lot of "experts" - not me, I'm not an expert, but i couldn't have been more wrong about them.

Plus, they got Pacioretty and I thought they would be really bad last year, but they were awesome and made me look bad.
RE: Sens will finish above Habs  
pjcas18 : 10/2/2018 10:54 am : link
In comment 14103197 Andy in Halifax said:
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that's about all I have to hope for this season. I'm not overly confident about that prediction, but the Habs do have a shit roster. Especially up front. But they are considerably better on the blueline and in net compared to Ottawa.


LOL, it's last or second to last. You are probably right though.

MTL is very young, and not good, so they can't even rely on their veterans. Though they do have Plekanec back to center the 4th line.
fuck Vegas because I hate fans who haven't had to suffer  
Greg from LI : 10/2/2018 10:55 am : link
Their run last year reminded me of when Colorado won the Cup in their first season after moving from Quebec. That was an unearned celebration for those people.
So its going to be miserable  
KWhite2250 : 10/2/2018 11:04 am : link
On hockey threads this year? Isles, rangers, habs, sens will all suck. I guess the 3 devils fans and the caps fan can enjoy the season.
RE: So its going to be miserable  
Jints in Carolina : 10/2/2018 11:09 am : link
In comment 14103224 KWhite2250 said:
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On hockey threads this year? Isles, rangers, habs, sens will all suck. I guess the 3 devils fans and the caps fan can enjoy the season.


And maybe the Canes fan?
RE: fuck Vegas because I hate fans who haven't had to suffer  
Jints in Carolina : 10/2/2018 11:10 am : link
In comment 14103212 Greg from LI said:
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Their run last year reminded me of when Colorado won the Cup in their first season after moving from Quebec. That was an unearned celebration for those people.


Still a pretty cool story.
RE: All I know is that the Rangers are going to be bad  
Kyle in NY : 10/2/2018 11:27 am : link
In comment 14103191 Greg from LI said:
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Really, really bad


I think you might be a bit surprised
RE: So its going to be miserable  
BigBlue89 : 10/2/2018 11:27 am : link
In comment 14103224 KWhite2250 said:
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I guess the 3 devils fans and the caps fan can enjoy the season.


By the end of the season, that's about the number of fans that will be at the Garden, if not sooner with that rebuilding roster.
RE: RE: So its going to be miserable  
pjcas18 : 10/2/2018 11:30 am : link
In comment 14103238 Jints in Carolina said:
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In comment 14103224 KWhite2250 said:


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On hockey threads this year? Isles, rangers, habs, sens will all suck. I guess the 3 devils fans and the caps fan can enjoy the season.



And maybe the Canes fan?


I actually like the Canes off-season, they could be a sleeper team, but more likely a couple years away, some high upside youth in that system.
I'm probably overly  
jv : 10/2/2018 11:33 am : link
optimistic but I don't think the Rangers are going to be that bad. I think they'll be in the wildcard mix but will smartly sell pieces that they don't view as part of the future.
Well for your sake  
Jay in Toronto : 10/2/2018 11:34 am : link
I do hope Kotkaniemi is the gift that keeps giving :)
RE: I'm probably overly  
Kyle in NY : 10/2/2018 11:37 am : link
In comment 14103314 jv said:
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optimistic but I don't think the Rangers are going to be that bad. I think they'll be in the wildcard mix but will smartly sell pieces that they don't view as part of the future.


That's how I see it too. Maybe I'm just overrating the impact of the coaching change but Quinn has been such a breath of fresh air with his approach. The forward group is pretty deep with a few guys with the potential for a breakout. Defense could be a bit of an adventure. But Hank is still there and I think at the very least they'll be entertaining and on the fringes of the playoff race for a while
Playoff teams  
Kyle in NY : 10/2/2018 11:38 am : link
Atlantic: Tampa, Toronto, Florida, Boston
Metro: Pittsburgh, Columbus, Carolina, Washington
Central: Winnipeg, Nashville, St. Louis, Dallas
Pacific: San Jose, Vegas, Calgary, Edmonton

Hart: McDavid
Vezina: Hellebuyck
Norris: Karlsson
Laine leading goal scorer

San Jose over Toronto in the Cup Final
I'm going into..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/2/2018 11:40 am : link
the Rangers season with low expectations, so I'll probably be pleasantly surprised.

Last year, I went to the Winter Classic, froze my ass off, but it was probably the highlight (or peak) of their year.

After that they went from being in a great position to being out of the playoff hunt in about a 15 game span.
.  
BrettNYG10 : 10/2/2018 11:44 am : link
Awards:
Hart: Chytil
Lindsay: Chytil
Ross: Chytil
Selke: Andersson
Vezina: Lundqvist
Norris: Skjei
Calder: Chytil
Adams: Quinn
Stanley Cup: Rangers
President's Trophy: Rangers
RE: I'm going into..  
BrettNYG10 : 10/2/2018 11:45 am : link
In comment 14103337 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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the Rangers season with low expectations, so I'll probably be pleasantly surprised.

Last year, I went to the Winter Classic, froze my ass off, but it was probably the highlight (or peak) of their year.

After that they went from being in a great position to being out of the playoff hunt in about a 15 game span.


That game was miserably cold.
RE: Well for your sake  
pjcas18 : 10/2/2018 11:49 am : link
In comment 14103318 Jay in Toronto said:
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I do hope Kotkaniemi is the gift that keeps giving :)


He looked great in pre-season, I don't even know if he'll stick beyond 9 games. he should, it's a rebuilding team, but that's not how coaches coach.

but that was 100% a homer pick. It could be any of:

Petterson, VAN** (if not being a homer, I'd have picked Petterson)

Donato, BOS
Chytil, NYR
Dahlin, BUF
Mittlestadt, BUF
Svechnikov, CAR
Necas, CAR
Zykov, CAR (not sure if he's still a rookie)
Heiskanen, DAL
Tolvanen, NAS
Kyrou, STL
Thomas, STL
Cirelli, TB
Borgstrom, FL
White, OTT

even guys like Zadina, Tkachuk or Lias Andersson who are starting in the minors/AHL/Juniors

so much good, young, talent in the NHL right now.
Oh..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/2/2018 11:54 am : link
my fucking God yes!

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That game was miserably cold.


People in the FanZone had beers that were frozen! My buddy got a hot chocolate that was still undissolved powder in a cup of cold water.

It took me the train ride back to the parking garage in Long Island City before I felt my toes.
Yeah, I went to the outdoor games in 2014 and they were nothing  
BrettNYG10 : 10/2/2018 11:56 am : link
Compared to this one. It was just brutal.
I am looking forward to watching Nico Hischier  
Jay on the Island : 10/2/2018 11:57 am : link
This season and him taking another step. The Devils season will hinge on Cory Schneider’s play. If he struggles they will miss the playoffs. They need him to return to form.
I am not a fan  
pjcas18 : 10/2/2018 12:14 pm : link
of playing in outdoor hockey games on baseball or football fields. I think the players probably like the energy and fan passion for those games, but probably hate the hockey.

And as a fan, IMO, the fan experience is too unpredictable because of the weather and the site lines usually suck because hockey has boards and the football or baseball stadiums aren't built for viewing hockey. I went to Frozen Fenway - which was terrible, and was offered free tickets to the Habs vs Bruins winter classic a few years ago at Gillette and passed.

That said, I like watching them on TV.

This year Bruins Blackhawks at Notre Dame
and Flyers Penguins at the Linc

I skated on a legit outdoor rink in an International tournament in Sweden, people sitting on snow banks watching us (on a team representing the US) play a Swedish team in a light snow in an exhibition game, and it was amazing. it took a period and a half of being awe struck before any of my teammates could focus on the game, but I wouldn't trade the experience for anything. Kind of had a Mystery Alaska feel to it (from my memory - I was 14 years old).

Skating on a rink on baseball or football field? not a fan and I also hate watching those games in person.
RE: RE: So its going to be miserable  
mgreenie03 : 10/2/2018 12:15 pm : link
In comment 14103238 Jints in Carolina said:
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On hockey threads this year? Isles, rangers, habs, sens will all suck. I guess the 3 devils fans and the caps fan can enjoy the season.



And maybe the Canes fan?


And maybe even some of us Bruins fans? I know there are a few here. Yeah I know bleep Boston.

PJ - we were all made to look bad about Vegas - I think everyone got that one wrong.
RE: RE: All I know is that the Rangers are going to be bad  
Greg from LI : 10/2/2018 12:16 pm : link
In comment 14103291 Kyle in NY said:
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I think you might be a bit surprised


Doubt it, unless multiple players take huge steps forward in their development in one year and multiple vets have career years.
RE: I am looking forward to watching Nico Hischier  
Stu11 : 10/2/2018 12:28 pm : link
In comment 14103375 Jay on the Island said:
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This season and him taking another step. The Devils season will hinge on Cory Schneider’s play. If he struggles they will miss the playoffs. They need him to return to form.

Agree on Nico, kind of on Schneider too but I have to say Kinkaid seems to have taken that next step. He carried the team the 2nd half to get to the playoffs and was great in the Worlds. I think the big key for the Devils is their young guys on the tam like Nico, Zacha, Bratt etc... taking that next step and young guy like Quenneville stepping up as they really added nothing this off season in FA/trades. Carolina could step up, but their goaltending still sucks. The team I see that missed last year with the best chance of grabbing a playoff spot is Florida. They are loaded with offensive talent.
Timely  
pjcas18 : 10/2/2018 12:42 pm : link
Seravelli article 40 rookies to know for 2018-2019.

write-ups from the relevant team fans on here:

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4. RW Andre Svechnikov, Carolina Hurricanes
Svechnikov, 18, isn’t going anywhere. Hurricanes GM Don Waddell said Svechnikov will remain in Carolina all season because there isn’t much to benefit him in junior with the OHL’s Barrie Colts. The No. 2 overall pick collected five points (two goals) in five preseason games after netting 72 points in 44 games last year in Barrie.


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5. LW Brady Tkachuk, Ottawa Senators
The second son of Keith to make it to the NHL, Brady Tkachuk announced his decision this summer to leave Boston University after one year. The No. 4 overall pick racked up 31 points in 40 games last season as a freshman. Tkachuk, 19, could open the season on a line with and for the Sens.


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7. C Jesperi Kotkaniemi, Montréal Canadiens
There is no question Kotkaniemi, 18, earned his opening night lineup spot with the Habs by virtue of a crisp preseason. He was arguably Montréal’s best player for a significant chunk of the time, clearly not overwhelmed by the stage. The question is whether the No. 3 overall pick sticks into late October or whether it makes more sense for his (and the Habs’) development to continue to grow in the AHL or back in Finland with Assat.

8. LW/C Ryan Donato, Boston Bruins
Donato, 22, stepped right into the B’s lineup after leaving Harvard last March with nine points (five goals) in his first 12 NHL games. There is still clearly room to grow as he appeared in just three of Boston’s 12 playoff games. He could start the season on the third line alongside and

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9. C Martin Necas, Carolina Hurricanes
Necas, 19, is a dark horse candidate for the Calder. He will be the Hurricanes’ second line centre behind . The Czech Republic native with high-end skill was drafted 12th overall in 2017 and had four points in four preseason contests.


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13. LW/RW Valentin Zykov, Carolina Hurricanes
Zykov, 23, was acquired from Los Angeles for on deadline day in 2016 in one of Ron Francis’ best moves as GM. Zykov appears ready to burst on to the NHL scene. He had seven points in 10 games with the Canes last year and is expected to open the season on the top line with Aho and Teuravanian.


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25. C Filip Chytil, New York Rangers
It was a busy season for Chytil, who got a nine-game NHL taste last season in New York. He played 46 games for AHL Hartford and also represented the Czechs in both the World Junior and World Championships.


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26. LW Alex Formenton, Ottawa Senators
Giddy up. Coach Guy Boucher has raved about Formenton’s speed, which should give the Sens a much-needed kick in the pants. Formenton, 19, was a second-round pick in 2017.


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29. C Brett Howden, New York Rangers
Howden, 20, was acquired from Tampa Bay in the trade last February. The 2017 first-rounder collected 75 points in 49 games with WHL Moose Jaw and seven in seven games when he helped Team Canada to World Junior gold.


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31. G Alexendar Georgiev, New York Rangers
Georgiev, 22, is one of two rookie netminders on season-opening rosters. ’s latest backup appeared in 10 games for the Blueshirts last year with the Bulgarian posting a .918 save percentage.


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35. C Colin White, Ottawa Senators
White, 21, will likely open the season in a fourth-line role alongside and . The 2015 first-rounder has 23 career games under his belt already.


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37. LW Warren Foegele, Carolina Hurricanes
Rookie head coach Rod Brind’Amour raved about Foegele, a 22-year-old third-round pick who had seven points in five preseason games: “He’s what we want in a Hurricane.”


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Potential impact rookies starting this season in AHL: G Carter Hart (PHI), LW Eeli Tolvanen (NSH), LW Filip Zadina (DET), C Lias Andersson (NYR).

There will be no rookie dinner for vets from seven teams who are expected to open the season without any first-year players: Colorado, Nashville, New Jersey, New York Islanders, Pittsburgh and Vegas.


Link - ( New Window )
Rangers will go 78-4  
Drewcon40 : 10/2/2018 12:52 pm : link
with all 4 loses against the Islanders so my buddy pganut is happy.

In all seriousness - I think the Rangers will be better than what the pre-season predictions state. They may hover around a playoff spot but it can go either way. Both NY teams with new coaches with entirely different resumes. Barry Runner's Trotz is obviously a great coach and Quinn hopefully brings a culture change to the Rangers as we rebuild this thing.
Have my tix  
Gman11 : 10/2/2018 2:15 pm : link
to Rangers-Canes game Sunday. I'm hoping Lundqvist steals one. I'm not optimistic about this season, but I really enjoy watching hockey.
One of the guys I'm really focused on this year is Skjei.  
BrettNYG10 : 10/2/2018 2:20 pm : link
I'm pessimistic about the team as a whole, but I want to see more of the 16-17 Skjei and not the 17-18 version. I don't think that contract will be 'bad' but if Skjei develops it could be a bargain.
Canes  
pjcas18 : 10/2/2018 2:22 pm : link
will be one of the most fun teams to watch this year.

a lot of youth with some veterans, Staal, Williams, Ferland to name a few vets.
After watching Vegas, Winnipeg, New Jersey, and Colorado last year  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/2/2018 2:46 pm : link
I'm not going to make predictions, haha.

Will be down in Carolina for the Isles' opener on Thursday.

LGI!
I'm hoping to see Pionk and DeAngelo turn into solid NHL defensemen  
Greg from LI : 10/2/2018 2:52 pm : link
Problem for the Rangers is they have a bunch of third-pairing quality guys and maybe one who belongs on a first pair.
RE: After watching Vegas, Winnipeg, New Jersey, and Colorado last year  
Drewcon40 : 10/2/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14103721 Mike in Long Beach said:
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I'm not going to make predictions, haha.

Will be down in Carolina for the Isles' opener on Thursday.

LGI!


Hey Mike, I thought PGA told me you were off BBI for a bit. Good to "see" you on here. Still rocking the DiPietro look?
I'll post every now and then on hockey,  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/2/2018 3:01 pm : link
occasionally if I have something to say about the Giants, but that's about it.

Good seeing you, too!
Leafs are going to be tough  
Vanzetti : 10/2/2018 4:54 pm : link
Rangers make playoffs
RE: I'm a little surprised  
Vanzetti : 10/2/2018 5:00 pm : link
In comment 14103201 pjcas18 said:
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I think the Rangers will deal Vesey, Spooner, and possibly even Namestnikov in addition to others.


Resigning Namestnikov was imo a face-saving gesture. He did nothing with the Rangers.

But I think you are in thinking that these guys were not resigned with the future in mind.
*think you are right*  
Vanzetti : 10/2/2018 5:01 pm : link
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opening day - it's finally here  
pjcas18 : 10/3/2018 7:37 am : link
now just to make it through this long day.

RE: After watching Vegas, Winnipeg, New Jersey, and Colorado last year  
Metnut : 10/3/2018 9:15 am : link
In comment 14103721 Mike in Long Beach said:
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I'm not going to make predictions, haha.

Will be down in Carolina for the Isles' opener on Thursday.

LGI!


Mike,

I'm heading to the opener in Carolina too. Are you sitting with the Isles' fan group?
RE: RE: After watching Vegas, Winnipeg, New Jersey, and Colorado last year  
Jints in Carolina : 10/3/2018 11:47 am : link
In comment 14104518 Metnut said:
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In comment 14103721 Mike in Long Beach said:


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I'm not going to make predictions, haha.

Will be down in Carolina for the Isles' opener on Thursday.

LGI!



Mike,

I'm heading to the opener in Carolina too. Are you sitting with the Isles' fan group?


GO CANES!
Seems like every year the 'experts' pick the Canes to make playoffs  
Andy in Halifax : 10/3/2018 11:56 am : link
Yet, they fail to do so year after year. The Calgary trade was a great move but they got shit in return for Skinner. Not buying them as a playoff team just yet.
BTW, Andy, visited your fair city this summer  
Greg from LI : 10/3/2018 12:17 pm : link
Lovely place and we enjoyed it, but damn things are expensive there!
RE: RE: I'm probably overly  
schabadoo : 10/3/2018 12:20 pm : link
In comment 14103328 Kyle in NY said:
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In comment 14103314 jv said:


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optimistic but I don't think the Rangers are going to be that bad. I think they'll be in the wildcard mix but will smartly sell pieces that they don't view as part of the future.



That's how I see it too. Maybe I'm just overrating the impact of the coaching change but Quinn has been such a breath of fresh air with his approach. The forward group is pretty deep with a few guys with the potential for a breakout. Defense could be a bit of an adventure. But Hank is still there and I think at the very least they'll be entertaining and on the fringes of the playoff race for a while


I'm going in with similar expectations.
RE: RE: I am looking forward to watching Nico Hischier  
Jay on the Island : 10/3/2018 12:25 pm : link
In comment 14103450 Stu11 said:
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In comment 14103375 Jay on the Island said:


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This season and him taking another step. The Devils season will hinge on Cory Schneider’s play. If he struggles they will miss the playoffs. They need him to return to form.


Agree on Nico, kind of on Schneider too but I have to say Kinkaid seems to have taken that next step. He carried the team the 2nd half to get to the playoffs and was great in the Worlds. I think the big key for the Devils is their young guys on the tam like Nico, Zacha, Bratt etc... taking that next step and young guy like Quenneville stepping up as they really added nothing this off season in FA/trades. Carolina could step up, but their goaltending still sucks. The team I see that missed last year with the best chance of grabbing a playoff spot is Florida. They are loaded with offensive talent.

I'm not a believer in Kinkaid. I doubt he repeats the level he was playing at last season. He played well above his head. I hope I am wrong but I am expecting him to return to his career norms.

Quenneville has finally won a roster spot and hopefully he will stick. He should be a 35+ point producer for the Devils. The Devils need one of Zacha, Quenneville, or McLeod to break out this season. Hopefully Zacha will because he will be given every opportunity as the 2nd line center. These are the projected lines as of now

Hall Hischier Palmieri
Johansson Zacha Bratt
Wood Zajac Quenneville
Coleman Boyle Noesen
Dea

Butcher Vatanen
Greene Severson
Mueller Santini
Lovejoy
Gryba
RE: Seems like every year the 'experts' pick the Canes to make playoffs  
Jints in Carolina : 10/3/2018 12:33 pm : link
In comment 14104777 Andy in Halifax said:
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Yet, they fail to do so year after year. The Calgary trade was a great move but they got shit in return for Skinner. Not buying them as a playoff team just yet.


Hopefully Brind'Amour is the hard ass this team needs. Hold everyone accountable.
RE: Seems like every year the 'experts' pick the Canes to make playoffs  
pjcas18 : 10/3/2018 1:33 pm : link
In comment 14104777 Andy in Halifax said:
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Yet, they fail to do so year after year. The Calgary trade was a great move but they got shit in return for Skinner. Not buying them as a playoff team just yet.


Agree, I have them missing the playoffs this year too. But not a bad sleeper pick. I think the Canes or Sabres are everyone's sleeper pick.

Aho, Svechnikov, Necas, Foegele, Zykov - that's a great young core to build on, not to mention the D they have.

Not sure who was calling the shots there, Francis or someone else, but the past couple years they've nailed almost every move.

Need to see it translate to on ice success now.
RE: RE: After watching Vegas, Winnipeg, New Jersey, and Colorado last year  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/3/2018 1:36 pm : link
In comment 14104518 Metnut said:
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In comment 14103721 Mike in Long Beach said:


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I'm not going to make predictions, haha.

Will be down in Carolina for the Isles' opener on Thursday.

LGI!



Mike,

I'm heading to the opener in Carolina too. Are you sitting with the Isles' fan group?


Hey Metnut.. yup! Are you?
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