I mean Odell just basically said he'd ather be in the sunshine in L.A.
Said the team has no heart during practices, also said he's not getting the chances he should get.....sad he has S being out schemed by the cover 2. No way to beat it....
We still can't figure out how to beat basic Cover 2 looks. He doesn't see the same volume a lot of other receivers see.
His end message was the crux of it all...
He said if he's getting the ball a lot, doing what he can, and they're still losing - he'll take all of the blame and put it all on his shoulders.
If they're losing and he's not able to contribute much because we can't get him the ball anywhere past 10 yards, he's going to have a problem with that. And he should .
He's an elite player. If they can't figure out how to get him the football the way other WR's are getting it, they shouldn't have signed him.
..Shurmur was livid and gave OBJ an earful staring it’s HIS job as a leader to get the rest of the team to buy in....Beckham addressed the entire team with an apology the next day.
Personally i’ve seen a lot worse from other stars, and think this will be no big deal in the long run.
and has won two Super Bowl MVP’s. Then I’ll be willing to hear from him about how another player is the problem. I can’t wait for this asshole to be elsewhere, preferably somewhere cold.
that was leading. You don't have to like it and i'm sure many on the team didn't. Since they are playing like dogshit, i'm not concerned about how happy they are.
that was leading. You don't have to like it and i'm sure many on the team didn't. Since they are playing like dogshit, i'm not concerned about how happy they are.
I have not seen this interview yet. But, you can not lead through media interviews. The mediam should be fed nothing.
that was leading. You don't have to like it and i'm sure many on the team didn't. Since they are playing like dogshit, i'm not concerned about how happy they are.
I have not seen this interview yet. But, you can not lead through media interviews. The mediam should be fed nothing.
You can throw a grenade through a media interview and then back it up on the field. We will see today.
Be mad at him for answering the questions if you want, but I don't want players who are okay with losing or are just there to collect a paycheck.
He's sick and tired of the losing just like we are.
If they can't get him the football and let him try to do more to help the team change that, they should have spent their money elsewhere. Maybe on something or someone that can figure out how to beat two deep safeties.
Be mad at him for answering the questions if you want, but I don't want players who are okay with losing or are just there to collect a paycheck.
He's sick and tired of the losing just like we are.
If they can't get him the football and let him try to do more to help the team change that, they should have spent their money elsewhere. Maybe on something or someone that can figure out how to beat two deep safeties.
Zero percent to air out these ideas to media. Winning cures all but this looks bad to me.
Matters little though, this is the face of the Giants now. Eli will be gone after this year and Beckham is the ninety million dollar man.
In the George Young era fans would get upset when the Giants passed on talented players because of character issues. Now we see the reason. OBJ is not the only one this team is riddled with them
post your happy dance on Instagram (or wherever it was), and then four weeks later, question if you're happy where you are.
Yes you can, if you are Odell. The Giants made their bed with him, now sleep in it. Everyone knows he is like some high maintenance chick. Always something.
enough is enough of this offense it time to score and as he is leader time to call out some of these bums we have on this team. come on the coach has him running 5 yard patterns
I find it amazing how people justify things like this because the team isn’t doing everything they can to help him make plays but love how Eli handles everything with class and never throws his OL under the bus.
Sure he wasn't... he just never practiced, eventually shot himself in the leg and wound up off of this football team a year after he signed a new deal because he couldn't control himself off the field.
Also, Terps - major hypocrisy here, bud. You are always the first guy to talk about how "lame" obj apologists are by beating the dead horse and sarcastically saying things like "yeah, terrible teammate... awful guy" etc.
What's the difference between that and what you're doing here?
Also, Terps - major hypocrisy here, bud. You are always the first guy to talk about how "lame" obj apologists are by beating the dead horse and sarcastically saying things like "yeah, terrible teammate... awful guy" etc.
What's the difference between that and what you're doing here?
But he’s one of the best players in the league. Pretty much the same as Dez Bryant. When his talent declines to league average he’ll be out of the league. Just like Dez Bryant. But as long as he’s an elite player with a huge contract he can say and do whatever he wants.
Can we not throw "mentally ill" around like it's some sort of innocent critique? No one here is qualified to make a statement like that and it's not something you casually label someone with if you're not a professional and don't know the guy personally.
Call him selfish or a diva or whatever makes you happy but don't use mental illness as a criticism of him.
I guess I just don't really understand what makes Beckham selfish or a loser.
If he were so selfish, why do all of his teammates speak glowingly of him? Why has he been so supportive of Barkley from day one?
If he were so selfish, wouldn't he want the spotlight all to himself? Why would he be the first guy to congratulate Barkley when he scores or makes a big play?
He's selfish because he wants the football more?
I don't understand how a fan can repeatedly say that all Giants fans should be angry over the current state of the team, but when a player echos the same sentiment, he's a selfish loser.
A lot of great players have been stuck on bad teams over the years. Football is and has always been a team sport. You either get that or you don't.
It’s most definitely only the losing. Who the fuck cares about any of this other crap? I just want to win. So does Beckham. The dude is pissed off and saying shit that means nothing.
It’s always about the winning or losing. Everything else is just gossip.
He’s not complaining about the location as much as he’s complaining about the losing. Beckham is saying he’s miserable and would rather be ANYWHERE else because of the losing. He’s not issuing any veiled trade me requests.
Or selective memories or simply don’t know your history. I can rettle off dozens of former greats who either vocally bitched to the press, led a mutiny to get a coach fired and routinely demanded more looks or attention from via the playbook. I’m talking legendary players here. Guys like Jerry rice in the nfl or magic Johnson in the nba and plenty more.
but I just saw it. To me it is not a positive at all. Beckham is going to be a leader and face of this team going forward. This interview he must have said "I" a million times and mentioned he was upset that his numbers could have been doubled or tripled.
The selfish nature of the interview, the casting of all negatives through the lens of how this affects me personally all seems at odds with team building.
The shitting on Eli and his HC (out schemed) is par for the course, but after this season when Eli is gone, how do you think the rapport will be with the new QB if Beckham is not lighting it up. For my two cents this interview and what insights it gives into Beckham and his thinking boxes poorly for the future and is not the attitude needed for winning football.
Also, many on here credit this interview with galvanizing the team to pay harder in yesterday's loss, yes another loss. If that interview is an example of leadership for this team going forward I am concerned. Sucks how much this team has fallen and personally I take very little positive from yesterday's loss.
but I just saw it. To me it is not a positive at all. Beckham is going to be a leader and face of this team going forward. This interview he must have said "I" a million times and mentioned he was upset that his numbers could have been doubled or tripled.
The selfish nature of the interview, the casting of all negatives through the lens of how this affects me personally all seems at odds with team building.
The shitting on Eli and his HC (out schemed) is par for the course, but after this season when Eli is gone, how do you think the rapport will be with the new QB if Beckham is not lighting it up. For my two cents this interview and what insights it gives into Beckham and his thinking boxes poorly for the future and is not the attitude needed for winning football.
Also, many on here credit this interview with galvanizing the team to pay harder in yesterday's loss, yes another loss. If that interview is an example of leadership for this team going forward I am concerned. Sucks how much this team has fallen and personally I take very little positive from yesterday's loss.
funny antrel rolle on live radio said the gianst had no heart and called out the team for having no "dog" in them in 2011 and they went on to win a superbowl...
but I just saw it. To me it is not a positive at all. Beckham is going to be a leader and face of this team going forward. This interview he must have said "I" a million times and mentioned he was upset that his numbers could have been doubled or tripled.
The selfish nature of the interview, the casting of all negatives through the lens of how this affects me personally all seems at odds with team building.
The shitting on Eli and his HC (out schemed) is par for the course, but after this season when Eli is gone, how do you think the rapport will be with the new QB if Beckham is not lighting it up. For my two cents this interview and what insights it gives into Beckham and his thinking boxes poorly for the future and is not the attitude needed for winning football.
Also, many on here credit this interview with galvanizing the team to pay harder in yesterday's loss, yes another loss. If that interview is an example of leadership for this team going forward I am concerned. Sucks how much this team has fallen and personally I take very little positive from yesterday's loss.
funny antrel rolle on live radio said the gianst had no heart and called out the team for having no "dog" in them in 2011 and they went on to win a superbowl...
and everyone calls rolle a tremendous leader...
We shall see. I doubt the Giants will win it all this year. If they rip off three in a row to pull to 4 - 4 than maybe there is something to this. But, to me this will be negative long term.
No, I didn’t see the interview. No, I don’t care to. Â
no one is struck by the way the whole thing is centered around me me I I?
And this is what he says in public, imagine his real feelings. I might be bias, but as I watch the Beckham Giant era roll on loss after loss, and he shit the bed in his biggest game so far, I wish maybe they had taken someone else. I do not see this going well long term. I will be happy if I am wrong.
No, it doesn’t bother me what he says. NO ONE works harder than this guy. Eli and company know this. Period.
Does THIS bother you?
Q: Do you have a problem at quarterback?
A: I don't know, like I said, I feel like he's not going to get out of the pocket. We know Eli isn't running. Is it a matter of time issue, can he still throw it? Yeah. And it's been cool catching it shallow and trying to take it to the house. But I want to try to catch over the top of somebody.
He is asked if there is a problem at quarterback and the first words out of his mouth are I DON'T KNOW. So you're ok with him taking pot shots at Eli?
RE: RE: No, I didn’t see the interview. No, I don’t care to. Â
No, it doesn’t bother me what he says. NO ONE works harder than this guy. Eli and company know this. Period.
Does THIS bother you?
Q: Do you have a problem at quarterback?
A: I don't know, like I said, I feel like he's not going to get out of the pocket. We know Eli isn't running. Is it a matter of time issue, can he still throw it? Yeah. And it's been cool catching it shallow and trying to take it to the house. But I want to try to catch over the top of somebody.
He is asked if there is a problem at quarterback and the first words out of his mouth are I DON'T KNOW. So you're ok with him taking pot shots at Eli?
Also, out-schemed came out of his mouth which is a direct shot at HC and the staff. A brand new staff mind you just five games in. It boggles my mind how anyone can think this is positive or helpful to the team.
RE: RE: RE: No, I didn’t see the interview. No, I don’t care to. Â
No, it doesn’t bother me what he says. NO ONE works harder than this guy. Eli and company know this. Period.
Does THIS bother you?
Q: Do you have a problem at quarterback?
A: I don't know, like I said, I feel like he's not going to get out of the pocket. We know Eli isn't running. Is it a matter of time issue, can he still throw it? Yeah. And it's been cool catching it shallow and trying to take it to the house. But I want to try to catch over the top of somebody.
He is asked if there is a problem at quarterback and the first words out of his mouth are I DON'T KNOW. So you're ok with him taking pot shots at Eli?
Also, out-schemed came out of his mouth which is a direct shot at HC and the staff. A brand new staff mind you just five games in. It boggles my mind how anyone can think this is positive or helpful to the team.
You'll find many here that think he's a leader in the locker room. I actually agree with them there. Whether that's a good thing, well...
We still can't figure out how to beat basic Cover 2 looks. He doesn't see the same volume a lot of other receivers see.
His end message was the crux of it all...
He said if he's getting the ball a lot, doing what he can, and they're still losing - he'll take all of the blame and put it all on his shoulders.
If they're losing and he's not able to contribute much because we can't get him the ball anywhere past 10 yards, he's going to have a problem with that. And he should .
He's an elite player. If they can't figure out how to get him the football the way other WR's are getting it, they shouldn't have signed him.
The NY stuff was no big deal.
Personally i’ve seen a lot worse from other stars, and think this will be no big deal in the long run.
Fuckin travesty man.
Fuckin travesty man.
You would be pissed. If you’re beating guys and you have a QB that can’t get you the ball
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He is a good player who is just "misunderstood". 90 million dollar cornerstone players dont do this.
Fuckin travesty man.
You would be pissed. If you’re beating guys and you have a QB that can’t get you the ball
Another mouth breather who probably never played a team sport in his life...
I have not seen this interview yet. But, you can not lead through media interviews. The mediam should be fed nothing.
None of this helps win football games.
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that was leading. You don't have to like it and i'm sure many on the team didn't. Since they are playing like dogshit, i'm not concerned about how happy they are.
I have not seen this interview yet. But, you can not lead through media interviews. The mediam should be fed nothing.
You can throw a grenade through a media interview and then back it up on the field. We will see today.
He's sick and tired of the losing just like we are.
If they can't get him the football and let him try to do more to help the team change that, they should have spent their money elsewhere. Maybe on something or someone that can figure out how to beat two deep safeties.
he is frsutrated. wish he keep ikn house tho
He's sick and tired of the losing just like we are.
If they can't get him the football and let him try to do more to help the team change that, they should have spent their money elsewhere. Maybe on something or someone that can figure out how to beat two deep safeties.
Zero percent to air out these ideas to media. Winning cures all but this looks bad to me.
Matters little though, this is the face of the Giants now. Eli will be gone after this year and Beckham is the ninety million dollar man.
Yes you can, if you are Odell. The Giants made their bed with him, now sleep in it. Everyone knows he is like some high maintenance chick. Always something.
Is he upset at one and three or one and three and he has no TD's.
Not good
Must be Solder telling him that.
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said the players are getting edgy on Eli. FWIW
Must be Solder telling him that.
Knowing Solder I seriously doubt that but it certainly fits your false narrative....
Lol ok.
Just trying to connect the dots - I don't give a shit either way.
I'll wait..
Only thing about that that sounds dumb is complaining about being in NY and then signing a long term extension.
I'll wait..
This again huh
I'll wait..
We will still after this game have apologists.
Again....the fact that he is a giant is a travesty.
You sure about that?
Sure he wasn't... he just never practiced, eventually shot himself in the leg and wound up off of this football team a year after he signed a new deal because he couldn't control himself off the field.
Revisionist history is awesome.
We will still after this game have apologists.
Again....the fact that he is a giant is a travesty.
Also, Terps - major hypocrisy here, bud. You are always the first guy to talk about how "lame" obj apologists are by beating the dead horse and sarcastically saying things like "yeah, terrible teammate... awful guy" etc.
What's the difference between that and what you're doing here?
Also, Terps - major hypocrisy here, bud. You are always the first guy to talk about how "lame" obj apologists are by beating the dead horse and sarcastically saying things like "yeah, terrible teammate... awful guy" etc.
What's the difference between that and what you're doing here?
You can't tell when you're being mocked?
Have at it. Just don't complain that other people are being "lame" when they comment on this topic.
Call him selfish or a diva or whatever makes you happy but don't use mental illness as a criticism of him.
Its when it gets predominantly the case that it gets sickening.
You’re the mentally ill one. The way you obsess about certain players is freightenting. You are definitely unstable and need to see a therapist.
If he were so selfish, why do all of his teammates speak glowingly of him? Why has he been so supportive of Barkley from day one?
If he were so selfish, wouldn't he want the spotlight all to himself? Why would he be the first guy to congratulate Barkley when he scores or makes a big play?
He's selfish because he wants the football more?
I don't understand how a fan can repeatedly say that all Giants fans should be angry over the current state of the team, but when a player echos the same sentiment, he's a selfish loser.
A lot of great players have been stuck on bad teams over the years. Football is and has always been a team sport. You either get that or you don't.
I guess Saquon Barkley is a loser too.
Creating a national story does not advance the giants as a football team.
Expressing his frustration and unhappiness in this forum serves nobody but Odell and espn
I guess we should get all the vultures out for Shep too now because it's only fair. If it were Beckham, it would be a big fucking deal
1 pass attempt, 57 pass yards, 1 pass TD.
But we'll keep blaming this guy for the losing. Seems smart.
Giants were not willing, he stays for the money in NY.
It’s most definitely only the losing. Who the fuck cares about any of this other crap? I just want to win. So does Beckham. The dude is pissed off and saying shit that means nothing.
It’s always about the winning or losing. Everything else is just gossip.
I'll wait..
Lol you’re kidding right?
We will still after this game have apologists.
Again....the fact that he is a giant is a travesty.
He was the best player on the field AGAIN and made one rare mistake. You’re an idiot AGAIN.
Get your emotions under control before you post.
The selfish nature of the interview, the casting of all negatives through the lens of how this affects me personally all seems at odds with team building.
The shitting on Eli and his HC (out schemed) is par for the course, but after this season when Eli is gone, how do you think the rapport will be with the new QB if Beckham is not lighting it up. For my two cents this interview and what insights it gives into Beckham and his thinking boxes poorly for the future and is not the attitude needed for winning football.
Also, many on here credit this interview with galvanizing the team to pay harder in yesterday's loss, yes another loss. If that interview is an example of leadership for this team going forward I am concerned. Sucks how much this team has fallen and personally I take very little positive from yesterday's loss.
1 pass attempt, 57 pass yards, 1 pass TD.
But we'll keep blaming this guy for the losing. Seems smart.
still shouldn't have done that interview
he said his teammates have no heart. i'm sure they love hearing that.
The selfish nature of the interview, the casting of all negatives through the lens of how this affects me personally all seems at odds with team building.
The shitting on Eli and his HC (out schemed) is par for the course, but after this season when Eli is gone, how do you think the rapport will be with the new QB if Beckham is not lighting it up. For my two cents this interview and what insights it gives into Beckham and his thinking boxes poorly for the future and is not the attitude needed for winning football.
Also, many on here credit this interview with galvanizing the team to pay harder in yesterday's loss, yes another loss. If that interview is an example of leadership for this team going forward I am concerned. Sucks how much this team has fallen and personally I take very little positive from yesterday's loss.
funny antrel rolle on live radio said the gianst had no heart and called out the team for having no "dog" in them in 2011 and they went on to win a superbowl...
and everyone calls rolle a tremendous leader...
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but I just saw it. To me it is not a positive at all. Beckham is going to be a leader and face of this team going forward. This interview he must have said "I" a million times and mentioned he was upset that his numbers could have been doubled or tripled.
The selfish nature of the interview, the casting of all negatives through the lens of how this affects me personally all seems at odds with team building.
The shitting on Eli and his HC (out schemed) is par for the course, but after this season when Eli is gone, how do you think the rapport will be with the new QB if Beckham is not lighting it up. For my two cents this interview and what insights it gives into Beckham and his thinking boxes poorly for the future and is not the attitude needed for winning football.
Also, many on here credit this interview with galvanizing the team to pay harder in yesterday's loss, yes another loss. If that interview is an example of leadership for this team going forward I am concerned. Sucks how much this team has fallen and personally I take very little positive from yesterday's loss.
funny antrel rolle on live radio said the gianst had no heart and called out the team for having no "dog" in them in 2011 and they went on to win a superbowl...
and everyone calls rolle a tremendous leader...
We shall see. I doubt the Giants will win it all this year. If they rip off three in a row to pull to 4 - 4 than maybe there is something to this. But, to me this will be negative long term.
And this is what he says in public, imagine his real feelings. I might be bias, but as I watch the Beckham Giant era roll on loss after loss, and he shit the bed in his biggest game so far, I wish maybe they had taken someone else. I do not see this going well long term. I will be happy if I am wrong.
Losing is a disease.
Go watch the scene from The Natural...
Does THIS bother you?
Q: Do you have a problem at quarterback?
A: I don't know, like I said, I feel like he's not going to get out of the pocket. We know Eli isn't running. Is it a matter of time issue, can he still throw it? Yeah. And it's been cool catching it shallow and trying to take it to the house. But I want to try to catch over the top of somebody.
He is asked if there is a problem at quarterback and the first words out of his mouth are I DON'T KNOW. So you're ok with him taking pot shots at Eli?
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No, it doesn’t bother me what he says. NO ONE works harder than this guy. Eli and company know this. Period.
Does THIS bother you?
Q: Do you have a problem at quarterback?
A: I don't know, like I said, I feel like he's not going to get out of the pocket. We know Eli isn't running. Is it a matter of time issue, can he still throw it? Yeah. And it's been cool catching it shallow and trying to take it to the house. But I want to try to catch over the top of somebody.
He is asked if there is a problem at quarterback and the first words out of his mouth are I DON'T KNOW. So you're ok with him taking pot shots at Eli?
Also, out-schemed came out of his mouth which is a direct shot at HC and the staff. A brand new staff mind you just five games in. It boggles my mind how anyone can think this is positive or helpful to the team.
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No, it doesn’t bother me what he says. NO ONE works harder than this guy. Eli and company know this. Period.
Does THIS bother you?
Q: Do you have a problem at quarterback?
A: I don't know, like I said, I feel like he's not going to get out of the pocket. We know Eli isn't running. Is it a matter of time issue, can he still throw it? Yeah. And it's been cool catching it shallow and trying to take it to the house. But I want to try to catch over the top of somebody.
He is asked if there is a problem at quarterback and the first words out of his mouth are I DON'T KNOW. So you're ok with him taking pot shots at Eli?
Also, out-schemed came out of his mouth which is a direct shot at HC and the staff. A brand new staff mind you just five games in. It boggles my mind how anyone can think this is positive or helpful to the team.
You'll find many here that think he's a leader in the locker room. I actually agree with them there. Whether that's a good thing, well...