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1.29 ypc

PaulBlakeTSU : 10/7/2018 6:07 pm
Outside of Barkley's fantastic run for 30 yards where he had to spin and juke in the backfield to avoid a loss, the Giants (Barkley) had 14 carries for 18 yards.

That is disgraceful

Until this offensive line can't figure out how to push the defensive line back and create running lanes, this team isn't going to be a threat in this league.
He was consistently being hit 4 yards behind the LOS  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 10/7/2018 6:09 pm : link
Free blitzers flying in from the edge and linemen between the tackles. Run blocking has been atrocious.
piss poor blocking.  
section125 : 10/7/2018 6:09 pm : link
Are these teams run blitzing? Are the Giants tipping the plays?
RE: piss poor blocking.  
EricJ : 10/7/2018 6:10 pm : link
In comment 14112108 section125 said:
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Are these teams run blitzing? Are the Giants tipping the plays?


not positive but it almost seems like they are run blitzing.
RE: RE: piss poor blocking.  
section125 : 10/7/2018 6:12 pm : link
In comment 14112112 EricJ said:
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In comment 14112108 section125 said:


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Are these teams run blitzing? Are the Giants tipping the plays?



not positive but it almost seems like they are run blitzing.


Maybe B in ALB can chime in, but it sure seems teams are very aggressive off the edges and in the gaps to be getting in that quickly and often.
Wait it gets worse  
dep026 : 10/7/2018 6:13 pm : link
He had a 20 and 30 yard run.

The other 13 were for -2. You can change the QB all you want. Our OL is fucking awful.
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arcarsenal : 10/7/2018 6:13 pm : link
I don't have actual numbers here, but I am going to assume first contact came behind the LOS on about half his carries.

There's no question this isn't the RB... it's the blocking. Or.. lackthereof.
Teams are keying on Barkley  
jsuds : 10/7/2018 6:14 pm : link
as is to be expected.

So far they have made good defensive calls against us.

Eventually Shurmur will figure it out and get the right play called.

The opportunities are there but he's not quite there yet.

Giants need to have the right call for the blitzes and get Barkley in the right position to take advantage.

Maybe it will happen.
Again  
robbieballs2003 : 10/7/2018 6:19 pm : link
it isn't about the ypc. The main thing is that we stuck with the run when we were down two scores. That allows us to open up our playbook and be more effective with our passes hence why we finally broke the 30 point barrier.
Teams  
AcidTest : 10/7/2018 6:37 pm : link
can control our OL with just four or five DL. That means Eli is regularly throwing against six or seven defenders. Barkley is frequently met in the backfield. Even today, one of his few long runs was only possible because he made an incredible spin move.
RE: Again  
crick n NC : 10/7/2018 6:38 pm : link
In comment 14112153 robbieballs2003 said:
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it isn't about the ypc. The main thing is that we stuck with the run when we were down two scores. That allows us to open up our playbook and be more effective with our passes hence why we finally broke the 30 point barrier.


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Does Barkley remind anyone else of Barry Sanders?  
Grey Pilgrim : 10/7/2018 6:38 pm : link
???
RE: Teams  
rocco8112 : 10/7/2018 7:13 pm : link
In comment 14112221 AcidTest said:
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can control our OL with just four or five DL. That means Eli is regularly throwing against six or seven defenders. Barkley is frequently met in the backfield. Even today, one of his few long runs was only possible because he made an incredible spin move.


I am by no means a football expert, but your first point has been the major problem with this offense. Teams dominate the line of scrimmage and get pass pressure without committing extra players to the box or too pass pressure. This clogs passing lanes and makes it difficult to go downfield and get guys open. The Giants are the worst rushing team in the NFL. This also does not allow the offense to dictate physically to the Opposition and wear down opposing pass rushers and defensive front players with run blocking. This issue has not improved at all despite bringing in a very talented back.
RE: Does Barkley remind anyone else of Barry Sanders?  
arcarsenal : 10/7/2018 7:19 pm : link
In comment 14112224 Grey Pilgrim said:
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Sanders was a little different - lower center of gravity, a little quicker.

But the gist of it, yeah - I get it.. Sanders often had strings of carries that were like... 2 yards, -1 yard, 3 yards, 0 yards, -2 yards, 68 yard TD...

Barkley has been similar in that regard.

That said - Sanders, to me, was the greatest RB I've ever seen. Barkley has to do a lot more before I put him in the same sentence. But I get the general idea and it's not totally off.
Yeah at the moment with this OL it's tough  
ChaChing : 10/7/2018 7:31 pm : link
Few other backs would have 100 yrds from scrimmage

Off the top of my head, I recall two plays - first where Short made a great play from the back side. It's possible he was unblocked by scheme but you'd think even a body in his way gives SB an easy get away

The other where Solder took the more inside DL, Hernandez looked to block the same guy, then tries to loop back on the DE or LB on the outside, by which time SB was on the ground

Any player is better on O with a good OL, but Ima love to see him work with even a halfway decent one. Hopefully this crew just gets it going...
Thanks arc!  
Grey Pilgrim : 10/7/2018 7:47 pm : link
Agreed.

There are definitely worse comparisons.
No two the same  
greek13 : 10/7/2018 7:58 pm : link
But I see Walter P in the young man , too! Pray for him to stay healthy till we build our OL
RE: Again  
Joey in VA : 10/7/2018 8:17 pm : link
In comment 14112153 robbieballs2003 said:
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it isn't about the ypc. The main thing is that we stuck with the run when we were down two scores. That allows us to open up our playbook and be more effective with our passes hence why we finally broke the 30 point barrier.
100% right sir.
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