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Is our defense good?

CMicks3110 : 10/7/2018 6:23 pm
I think we have been relatively solid across the board sans the pass rush, which I think will improve with Vernon returning.











Vernon coming back before the bye is a pipe dream  
Giants in 07 : 10/7/2018 6:24 pm : link
Seasons long gone by then
Don’t count on Vernon...  
OBJ_AllDay : 10/7/2018 6:25 pm : link
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Disgraceful tackling today....  
ZGiants98 : 10/7/2018 6:25 pm : link
I think we are "ok". Our secondary is good and we can shut down teams running games for the most part. A lot was riding on a big year from OV which has really hurt us IMO. I like the addition of Ogletree.
We miss tackles like it's our job.  
I'mRonBurgandy? : 10/7/2018 6:27 pm : link
We get zero pressure.

We can't get off the field on third down.

The defense has some players but overall, the answer has to be no.
No  
cokeduplt : 10/7/2018 6:27 pm : link
Not really
We have had a few games where our tackling was bad but  
nicky43 : 10/7/2018 6:27 pm : link
I still think we have a very good defense. Good to see our Offense is starting to come together but the oline still sucks.
No,  
RottenApple : 10/7/2018 6:28 pm : link
It sucks.
Collins almost never wraps up  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 10/7/2018 6:30 pm : link
Likes to deliver big hits, but rarely wraps up. As the header of this defense...it'd be nice to see him lead in the fundamentals.
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arcarsenal : 10/7/2018 6:33 pm : link
It's not... it's also not awful. They've performed reasonably well for certain stretches.

The offense is a bigger issue, IMO.
RE: Collins almost never wraps up  
mdc1 : 10/7/2018 6:34 pm : link
In comment 14112194 Bold Ruler said:
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Likes to deliver big hits, but rarely wraps up. As the header of this defense...it'd be nice to see him lead in the fundamentals.


keep rewinding that tape of Cam running over several players for a first down and McCaffery (not a physical specimen) breaking tackles for 20+ yards.

Talk about embarrassing. I guess the diversion is to blame the officiating for getting owned by the other team physically.
Poor  
AcidTest : 10/7/2018 6:34 pm : link
tackling is now joining a lack of pass rush. Our DL is a collection of talented run stuffers, not pass rushers. We need to get more from Barwin, Carter, Mauro, and Martin. We don't seem to be able to get a pass rush unless we blitz from the secondary.
No  
Jeffrey : 10/7/2018 6:41 pm : link
Like everything else about this team it has some strengths and more weaknesses—too many weaknesses to be counted on in crunch time against a good QB.
other than that Webb is the second coming of  
gidiefor : Mod : 10/7/2018 6:52 pm : link
CC and there is no CB depth behind him; Collins is trying to make up for playing two Safety spots; the defense is porous once you make it into the second level; Snacks appears to be only playing one down per set; and there is a lot of over pursuit and failure to wrap up, and the offense can't keep them off the field --- uuum - nope
Since when  
Marty866b : 10/7/2018 6:54 pm : link
Is Vernon such a great pass rusher.
Good enough  
rocco8112 : 10/7/2018 6:54 pm : link
For 1 - 4. Which is too say not too good.
No  
noro9 : 10/7/2018 7:03 pm : link
.
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Danny Kanell : 10/7/2018 7:06 pm : link
It’s not good.
The tackling is sloppy and the pass rush anemic.  
Ira : 10/7/2018 7:08 pm : link
The coverage is good and the run defense is pretty good.
NO : The Defense is NOT GOOD.  
GMoney : 10/7/2018 8:10 pm : link
And Cam Newton Loves Fucking beating the Giants.
Just made a post  
dep026 : 10/7/2018 8:13 pm : link
Defense has given up 8 scores in 10 possessions in the 4th quarter in the last 4 games
Kareem Martin  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/7/2018 8:16 pm : link
Is fucking awful. The Giants need to play Carter. He’s still not their mentally, but at least he’ll make an occasional play. Martin does absolutely nothing out there.
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arcarsenal : 10/7/2018 8:19 pm : link
Well, you guys be the judge..

Before today's game, the Giants were..

16th in points allowed.
11th in yards allowed.
3rd in pass TD's allowed.
18th in rush TD's allowed.

The Giants defense has been average. Not good. Not awful.

Not as bad as last year. Not as bad as 2015. It's enough where it's not blowing any chance we have to win a football game.

Kansas City might have the worst defense in football and they haven't lost yet.
HOW HAS THE DEFENSE PLAYED IN THE FOURTH QUARTER  
Doomster : 10/7/2018 8:26 pm : link
when the game is on the line?
RE: HOW HAS THE DEFENSE PLAYED IN THE FOURTH QUARTER  
arcarsenal : 10/7/2018 8:29 pm : link
In comment 14112486 Doomster said:
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when the game is on the line?


There is so much more to it than this. So many components.
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