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Coach Pat Shurmur is about to undergo his greatest...

M.S. : 10/7/2018 6:26 pm
...challenge as Head Coach of the New York Giants. For those old enough to have watched this team from 1964 – 1981, you probably know what it is.

How to pick this team up after they played their hearts out; overcame too many fucking turnovers; were robbed by the refs; and then finally took a 63-yard FG straight in the nuts?

The several bad-to-mediocre Giants teams of the distant past had a difficult time dusting themselves off after snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Often times, they would come out the next week and play flat; lay an egg; and take a severe beating. And I do mean severe.

That is the greatest challenge right now for Coach Shurmur: To convince his team that they are still relevant at 1-4 and that they can still win ball games in the NFL.

In 4 days, we will learn alot about what Coach Shurmur really brings to this franchise. And whether or not he's the one to lead this franchise in the coming years.
Plus the Giants are facing the Eagles.  
FStubbs : 10/7/2018 6:32 pm : link
We all know how those games tend to go.
He started with his presser.  
Dave on the UWS : 10/7/2018 6:40 pm : link
This guy is hellbent to lead his team out of the wilderness.
I think the players were all saying the right things..  
EricJ : 10/7/2018 6:51 pm : link
after the game. So, I am not worried about the effort.
This game was the deathblow  
rocco8112 : 10/7/2018 7:11 pm : link
on a patient already in a coma. I hope all the positie outlooks on this board tonight are true, but I do not see it. This season will now circle the drain like to many recent seasons. This game could have been a huge win, but is now a crushing defeat for a team full of guys who know nothing but losing.

In addition, there is a it is the officials fault for the loss attitude brewing, that is very bad in my book. This team loses all the time, they do not need the officials help to do it.
I'm curious just how loaded the stands will be on Thursday  
Rover : 10/7/2018 7:25 pm : link
With empty seats or Iggle fans.
RE: I'm curious just how loaded the stands will be on Thursday  
Karl Hungus : 10/7/2018 7:28 pm : link
In comment 14112334 Rover said:
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With empty seats or Iggle fans.


See you there
Nobody has run away with the NFC East  
dpinzow : 10/7/2018 7:31 pm : link
so amazingly they are not done at 1-4. If they lose to Philly on Thursday they will be done
McAdoo had the same opportunity last year...  
BillKo : 10/7/2018 7:40 pm : link
...and we can see that guy had zero ability to communicate to players. It ended badly for him.

Does Shurmur? We are about to find out.

He needs to keep this team together, and playing hard. As I said in another thread, his heated presser - I didn't see it but from what I read - I think keeps the players engaged and that he's on their side.

While today hurt, I was happy with the effort overall.........
I have to admit  
smshmth8690 : 10/7/2018 8:16 pm : link
I loved his attitude during his presser. This is going to read really stupid, but it was the best postgame presser I can remember after a loss in a long time.
What makes it a tad bit easier  
Simms11 : 10/7/2018 10:35 pm : link
is the fact that they’re playing at home and it’s a Division opponent, let alone the hated Eagles. They’ll be ready to play. Remember the Eagles are coming off a loss too and are only 2 - 3.
look at schedule  
bc4life : 10/7/2018 10:43 pm : link
Giants were 3-13 last year and 4 of 5 teams they played went deep into the playoffs. they've been in most of these games.
The “adult in the room”  
Pete in CO : 10/7/2018 10:50 pm : link
...was DG’s comment. That was quite a statement to make, and maybe a little unfair to Ben McAdoo. BM was trying, but didn’t have the skills to navigate the NYG (and their personalities) out of the pitfalls of a truly bad season. He lost their respect, and ultimately, any ability to lead them.
Shurmur is definitely showing the knowledge and skills to lead them in difficult times, and I love the way he is filtering out team issues vs talking points w the press.
The team’s leadership is changing from a quiet, controlled, gifted QB to a wild, emotional and remarkably talented WR. That won’t be easy, smooth or pretty at times, but its happening. Managing this transition will be, IMO, Shurmur’s greatest challenge. Shurmur has the reins, and can lead them. But his leadership is not going to be worth much if OBJ, Eli, the OL, the D Secondary, etc cannot execute as a team.
And BTW...  
M.S. : 10/8/2018 9:52 am : link

...the week after the infamous Joe Pisarcik "Miracle in the Meadowlands" fumble, the Giants came out flat and ugly getting wrecked by Buffalo 41-17.

John McVay never pulled the Giants out of their 1978 tailspin after "the Fumble", and he was gone before the start of the next season.

RE: And BTW...  
RinR : 10/8/2018 10:28 am : link
In comment 14113296 M.S. said:
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...the week after the infamous Joe Pisarcik "Miracle in the Meadowlands" fumble, the Giants came out flat and ugly getting wrecked by Buffalo 41-17.

John McVay never pulled the Giants out of their 1978 tailspin after "the Fumble", and he was gone before the start of the next season.


Odd game to compare yesterday's too. Completely differnet game situations.

RE: RE: And BTW...  
M.S. : 10/8/2018 11:23 am : link
In comment 14113361 RinR said:
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In comment 14113296 M.S. said:


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...the week after the infamous Joe Pisarcik "Miracle in the Meadowlands" fumble, the Giants came out flat and ugly getting wrecked by Buffalo 41-17.

John McVay never pulled the Giants out of their 1978 tailspin after "the Fumble", and he was gone before the start of the next season.




Odd game to compare yesterday's too. Completely differnet game situations.


The comparison is illustrative to point out that -- after a freakish loss -- a team can have a difficult time keeping it together, especially teams that are not used to winning. In any event, Eagles game will be the biggest test IMO for the Head Coach and the entire Giants team. Lay an egg; come out flat; and get their asses handed to them... and we may be looking at a 2 or 3 wins for 2018.
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