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bigblue5611_2 : 10/8/2018 7:27 am
The division still isn’t out of reach, especially if Washington were to lose tonight. Only one game back of both Philly and Dallas (though we do have the loss against Dallas) and five more division games to go. I think after how hard they fought yesterday, especially in the second half, seeing Shurmur after the game, etc. that this team could come out swinging Thursday night, and possibly get some momentum going.

1-4 is obviously a terrible start, but I am not ready to give up, especially seeing how the rest of the division has looked, seeing the offense show some life, hopefully getting Vernon and Engram back soon...

I know this may not be the popular opinion here, but there’s enough going on right now to at least have some optimism, for me anyway.
Not that I want people to be miserable  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/8/2018 7:30 am : link
But the difference is the cowboys and eagles arent playing well. I don't think the Giants can play much better that they did.
I would respectfully disagree  
bigblue5611_2 : 10/8/2018 7:34 am : link
They made good plays yesterday but they still left a good amount on the field, for whatever reason they couldn’t tackle in that first half, which I don’t believe they’ve been nearly that bad with tackling this year, plus the refs gave Carolina more chances with those putrid calls/non-calls
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bigblue5611_2 : 10/8/2018 7:35 am : link
That was a terrible sentence lol, my apologies to any grammar police.
They can get better  
Bill L : 10/8/2018 7:39 am : link
As it is, it’s a work in progress and parts, especially the OL show incremental improvement. Plus, it can’t be overstated how much they miss two key components (Engram, OV) and their impact. What they don’t have any more is much time on the schedule.
Exactly what TTH said  
Devour the Day : 10/8/2018 7:43 am : link
This team is not playoff caliber just yet.
They played their hearts out yesterday and I believe will get better
But they aren’t going to any Super Bowl this year.
Thus given the state of this rebuild I want draft position so maybe in a year or two we can compete.
Go out  
tomjgiant : 10/8/2018 7:44 am : link
and beat Philly on Thursday and then we can start to dream a little.
Agreed Bill L  
bigblue5611_2 : 10/8/2018 7:48 am : link
Get those two back, keep building on what they have shown, and things can certainly get better.
Depends how the giants use this loss  
nygiants16 : 10/8/2018 7:57 am : link
They can go into shitter or they can look and say we are still in it and come out angry
RE: Not that I want people to be miserable  
TyreeHelmet : 10/8/2018 8:01 am : link
In comment 14113029 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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But the difference is the cowboys and eagles arent playing well. I don't think the Giants can play much better that they did.


Still missing their starting TE and by far their best pass rusher. Giants can definitely play better.
nygiants16  
bigblue5611_2 : 10/8/2018 8:13 am : link
I think it could bring them together to be honest. Listening to Shurmur in the PC, seeing the fight in the second half, the attitude towards the refs after the game I think could create a “us against the world” type mentality.
RE: nygiants16  
nygiants16 : 10/8/2018 8:15 am : link
In comment 14113085 bigblue5611_2 said:
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I think it could bring them together to be honest. Listening to Shurmur in the PC, seeing the fight in the second half, the attitude towards the refs after the game I think could create a “us against the world” type mentality.


we can only hope, if i am a player i am looking at the division and feeling like the season is just starting...

Need engram and vernon back
Agreed on Vernon  
bigblue5611_2 : 10/8/2018 8:26 am : link
and Engram. If Washington loses tonight, they can absolutely feel they still have a damn good shot.
Giants will have their work cut out for them  
Simms11 : 10/8/2018 9:25 am : link
Thursday night. Eagles have also lost two in a row and Wentz hasn’t won yet. This is a Division opponent and it can get really ugly on a short week. I see another close game, but hopefully a game where Eli can give Rosas a chance to win it at the end. We owe the Eagles bad. Ertz needs to be doubled in this game otherwise they’ll keep drives alive.
You're right but  
mittenedman : 10/8/2018 9:33 am : link
if you really look at it honestly, this team isn't built to win.

Teams with old immobile QBs, bad offensive lines & no pass rush aren't going to win many games. We cannot do things consistently well enough to win, and that's not going to change.

Look at the army of badasses this team's had when it won under Coughlin recently, and look at the team now. It's not a winning professional team.
You are setting yourself up for disapointment  
UberAlias : 10/8/2018 10:31 am : link
This team will be right there in the race for the division... until they aren't.

This team won 3 games last year. They have improved in some ways, but are not close to being good. it's great that they have an amazing WR and RB, but you just don't win with a lack of Oline, pass rushers, or elite QB. Better to accept that sooner rather than later, IMO.
The Giants will probably have to get to 9 wins  
arniefez : 10/8/2018 10:35 am : link
to win the division and at least 4 of those 9 will probably have to be in the NFC East. Highly unlikely.
RE: You are setting yourself up for disapointment  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/8/2018 10:36 am : link
In comment 14113366 UberAlias said:
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This team will be right there in the race for the division... until they aren't.

This team won 3 games last year. They have improved in some ways, but are not close to being good. it's great that they have an amazing WR and RB, but you just don't win with a lack of Oline, pass rushers, or elite QB. Better to accept that sooner rather than later, IMO.


Well if you are hoping for the playoffs prepare to be disappointed for sure. Statistically close to impossible to make the playoffs.

But I do feel good about Sunday. It was gut wrenching, I was pissed whn it happened, but I think the fight of the team got to me. They could have mailed it in (1st Q looked like it).

I think Shurmur still has the team and I think the entire team is pissed. I think we will see a surge, but a HUGE part of it is this Thursday. If they come out with fire and win this game, I like where the team is headed.

If they lay an egg, I'll have been wrong and the unraveling had begun.
We hear this every time  
mittenedman : 10/8/2018 10:58 am : link
there's a glimmer of hope: wait until next week.

It was said after the Texans game. One of Eli's best games ever.

He sucked the next week. Team loses 2 games in a row after the Texans win. There is no consistency with this team, nothing carries over.
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