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NFT: 10/8 Knicks Chat: The roster

LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/8/2018 9:11 am
NBA season starts in 8 days. Right now here's our roster.

PG: Frank/Burke/Mudiay
SG: THJ/Lee/Dotson/Baker/Zo Trier
SF: Knox/Super Mario
PF: KP/Thomas/Hicks/Vonleh
C: Kanter/Robinson/Noah/Kornet

Obviously you got Noah. I don't know what the status is with him. If we lost Kornet I wouldn't lose any sleep. Same with Hicks. Give Zo the two way contract.

I'd still try to find a trade partner for Lee. Cut Mudiay. Yesterday.
Knicks  
TyreeHelmet : 10/8/2018 9:44 am : link
I love them playing hardball with Noah. You want to go play backup Center for Thibs? Give back as much or more than what Deng did. Noah hasn't earned 1 dollar of that contract. No need to give up any favors.

I would cut Mudiay.

This team without KP is going to be very bad. I'm still excited to watch because of the youth and direction, but they are going to struggle most nights. Any lineup featuring Kanter, THJ and Mario is going to be very bad defensively.
The roster structure is 15+2  
Pep22 : 10/8/2018 10:02 am : link
15 roster spots on NYK + 2 two-way players (NYK, WK)

Currently, that is allocated as follows:

The 15:

PG: Frank/Burke/Mudiay
SG: THJ/Lee/Dotson/Baker
SF: Knox/Herzonja
PF: KP/Thomas/Vonleh
C: Kanter/Robinson/Noah/Kornet

The 2:

Trier, Hicks
can another team sign...  
Italianju : 10/8/2018 10:16 am : link
a guy on a two way contract to a full contract? Like signing someone off the practice squad.

Id dump Hicks, Kornet and Baker. I know baker will cost money, but who cares. Get some guys with more upside then those three.
It's amazing the difference KP makes at such a young age.  
bceagle05 : 10/8/2018 10:17 am : link
Frank/Timmy/Knox/KP/Kanter isn't half bad, but without him it's a mess.
i do think they will win some games early  
nygiants16 : 10/8/2018 10:18 am : link
that we do not expect but then fade as the season goes on...
1 thing about this team  
nygiants16 : 10/8/2018 10:21 am : link
they are in damn good shape, i thought kanter would have trouble keeping up but he has beasted, granted preseason
When Hubie Was Coach  
Samiam : 10/8/2018 10:24 am : link
I remember a year where the team was bad but they played hard every game and was in every game until the end when they would lose. I’m expecting the team to show up and give some teams a scare but only to win when the other team is bad and playing back to back road games or something like that. By the way, I would keep Mudiay or any young player with an upside
They need to keep  
XBRONX : 10/8/2018 10:30 am : link
Trier and say goodbye to Baker. He stinks
RE: can another team sign...  
Pep22 : 10/8/2018 10:35 am : link
In comment 14113336 Italianju said:
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a guy on a two way contract to a full contract? Like signing someone off the practice squad. >> NO

Id dump Hicks, Kornet and Baker. I know baker will cost money, but who cares. Get some guys with more upside then those three.
Fizdale has said  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/8/2018 11:02 am : link
he is willing to cut a guaranteed contract to get the best 15 players on the roster.

I think it's going to be Kornet. For some reason Fizdale still believes he can turn Mudiay around. I don't want to cut Baker. He plays defense and isn't too bad offensively. He's a decent player to have as depth. He won't be anything more though.
Thanks Pep...  
Italianju : 10/8/2018 11:04 am : link
...
Ron Baker  
XBRONX : 10/8/2018 11:09 am : link
is a terrible offensive player. In his two years fg% .370 and three point .286. Dreadful numbers.
RE: Fizdale has said  
Jim in Fairfax : 10/8/2018 11:35 am : link
In comment 14113446 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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he is willing to cut a guaranteed contract to get the best 15 players on the roster.

I think it's going to be Kornet. For some reason Fizdale still believes he can turn Mudiay around. I don't want to cut Baker. He plays defense and isn't too bad offensively. He's a decent player to have as depth. He won't be anything more though.

Baker might help win more games this year (though that’s a stretch), but that’s not the goal. Baker has no future in the leauge. And even if he did, he had no future with the Knicks. They will 100% renounce him at season’s end for cap space. There is no point to keeping him.
Baker brings something to the team  
nygiants16 : 10/8/2018 1:04 pm : link
as a 15th guy if he plays you know he is going to play hard and play good defense you want that in your locker room and on the prwctice floor...

Fiz is not thinking about future on the team, he is thinking about this year...
Trier  
XBRONX : 10/8/2018 1:05 pm : link
brings offense to the team. Baker needs to be cut.
RE: Trier  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/8/2018 1:09 pm : link
In comment 14113738 XBRONX said:
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brings offense to the team. Baker needs to be cut.


Does Trier play defense?
RE: Trier  
nygiants16 : 10/8/2018 1:12 pm : link
In comment 14113738 XBRONX said:
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brings offense to the team. Baker needs to be cut.


they are 2 completely different players...
Yes they are different  
XBRONX : 10/8/2018 1:19 pm : link
players and have different futures. Baker has no future with the Knicks and Trier might.
RE: Yes they are different  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/8/2018 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14113767 XBRONX said:
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players and have different futures. Baker has no future with the Knicks and Trier might.


You're basing this off of 3 pre seasons games you've seen? Okayyyy.

Baker plays defense. Hustles. Not an exact black hole on offense. Trier right now has flashed potential. I'd like to keep both. You want to cut Boodiay or Hicks or Kornet? I'm fine with that.
Interesting quote from Fiz...  
bceagle05 : 10/8/2018 5:31 pm : link
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“There’s not going to be anybody playing much more than 28 minutes anyway,’’ Fizdale said. “Guys will get a lot of minutes whether they’re starting or coming off the bench. The pace I’m playing at, if you can play over 30 minutes comfortably, you’re probably not playing very hard. My big deal to them is efficiency.’’

Hopefully there's something to his offense besides running. Sounds like the Knicks will sub like a hockey team this year. I guess it makes sense - there's not much difference between the starters and reserves in terms of talent, so you might as well play them all.
Baker cut is easy if the guards are interchangeable per coach  
idiotsavant : 10/8/2018 5:34 pm : link
Just list Frank on that line, add trier at 'pg '
Fiz was also waxing poetic about Baker  
bceagle05 : 10/8/2018 5:38 pm : link
so I doubt he's the one of the chopping block. Something's gotta give with the guards though - way too many who are not part of the future (including Baker). Hopefully by the second half of the season Frank, Trier and even Dotson are getting plenty of minutes. I really don't care much for the rest of them.
*on the chopping block  
bceagle05 : 10/8/2018 5:38 pm : link
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Baker on O looks like an overachieving  
idiotsavant : 10/8/2018 6:46 pm : link
College player. Not an NBA player. Trier seems to have serious upside. And has blocked some shots already, no? That's D!

Its not even close.
Trier  
Samiam : 10/8/2018 8:01 pm : link
What would be the point of putting him on the roster and letting him spend most of the game on the bench watching a losing team? He needs to learn to play defense. He can catch up with players driving in for uncontested layups and maybe block the shot but he doesn’t play defense, at least not consistently. I think his contract is D league. Let him learn to play
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