We could hypothetically be right in the mix after next Sunday sharing 2 wins with the rest of the division. It ain’t pretty, but the Giants are only mostly dead.
This is the saving grace of the horrific start... Â
to the season. 11 games left, 1.5 games out of first right now. Amazing, but if the team can continue to improve the season unbelievable isn't over. The division is wide open, imo.
If yesterday, despite the debacle stuff, is any indicator, Â
we might be ready on O to get it together, But again, the OL needs to get to average.
Go Saints
Oline pass blocking seems much improved, however Barkley is still getting hit before he can get to the freaking line. I’d like to see them maybe pull the Guards or use an H-Back or FB to help open some holes for Barkley, because right now, the only way they’re gaining yards on the ground is through spectacular moves by him.
Last years team would have folded like a wet rag after a heartbreaker like that
Do these guys have what it takes to keep fighting? As you said...the season isn’t over yet seeing as the rest of the division isn’t exactly setting the world on fire
I am not impressed with Bettcher right now. All we heard was during the preseason was how we will be having guys coming from everywhere and it will give offenses fits. Um, I don't think I can recall a blitz designed where the offense looked confused at all and didn't know who to pick up. Our players just simply run into blockers and we aren't winning those matchups.
I hate when I hear dedensive coaches talk about how they have to win their one on one matchups. That isn't coaching. That is praying. An offense cannot double every defender. In fact, just by pure numbers almost every pass block is a one on one matchup. That is what every offense wants. Get a hat on a hat. Why should DC be okay with that. They should be fucking with the blocking scheme and trying to get a free rusher. We are sending a lot of players that get picked up and that leaves us extremely vulnerable on the back end. If we are going to do that I'd rather just get more guys in coverage.
Yes, the defense has played well for stretches but it doesn't last and more often than not the plays are being made in the secondary and not at the QB.
hoping Barkley's ankle is OK for Thursday. He looked like he landed awkwardly and was painfully limping to the sideline after the TD.
Barkley is not Vernon, he’ll play
Thats a cheap shot.. besides for this season I want Giants to win on sundays but by monday I am already over the loss.. this is a multiple year building project.. I'd rather Barkley take a day off and then play at 90%...
is that we are actually HOME for a Thursday night game.
The only true problem is that the Giants are playing a team who has had their number for the past 6 seasons.
The Giants have to find a way to beat Philly, and they can't do with Manning throwing picks, and the defense taking stupid penalties.
I hate the Eagles more than any other team in sports, so this game is the most important game of the year so far.
I want to see some trick plays like the one they used yesterday with Beckham throwing to Barkley.
The Giants need to build some confidence, and winning a game against a division rival that has owned them would be huge.
Kill Philly! GO BIG BLUE!!
Maybe it is FINALLY time that we get the benefit of some Â
I think the Eagles are better than their record. But my pessimism derives from how this team has looked more than anything else. Does anyone really think this looks like even a 9-7 team?
I think the Eagles are better than their record. But my pessimism derives from how this team has looked more than anything else. Does anyone really think this looks like even a 9-7 team?
Brett, no and I agree about the Eagles.
I don't think they are playoff bound (Giants) but I do think they are starting to come together. As frustrating as Sunday was, I think they showed the "energy" as the game wore on. CAR only took that W because of the refs and a 63 yd FG. This Thursday will be the litmus.
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Last years team would have folded like a wet rag after a heartbreaker like that
Do these guys have what it takes to keep fighting? As you said...the season isn’t over yet seeing as the rest of the division isn’t exactly setting the world on fire
I think the Eagles are better than their record. But my pessimism derives from how this team has looked more than anything else. Does anyone really think this looks like even a 9-7 team?
Ehhh..I don't know. The Eagles aren't running the ball anywhere near the way they did last year. I think they miss Blount and the back they got from Miami is overrated IMO. And their pass defense is really an issue versus teams that can sling it. And, they have age on their DL.
I think the Eagles are better than their record. But my pessimism derives from how this team has looked more than anything else. Does anyone really think this looks like even a 9-7 team?
Brett, no and I agree about the Eagles.
I don't think they are playoff bound (Giants) but I do think they are starting to come together. As frustrating as Sunday was, I think they showed the "energy" as the game wore on. CAR only took that W because of the refs and a 63 yd FG. This Thursday will be the litmus.
Blaming the refs is lame, our star QB threw two picks in the fourth quarter, that is a recipe for disaster in the NFL!
I think the Eagles are better than their record. But my pessimism derives from how this team has looked more than anything else. Does anyone really think this looks like even a 9-7 team?
Brett, no and I agree about the Eagles.
I don't think they are playoff bound (Giants) but I do think they are starting to come together. As frustrating as Sunday was, I think they showed the "energy" as the game wore on. CAR only took that W because of the refs and a 63 yd FG. This Thursday will be the litmus.
Blaming the refs is lame, our star QB threw two picks in the fourth quarter, that is a recipe for disaster in the NFL!
The star QB that gave us the lead with 50 seconds left? Eli wasn't perfect but he gave us enough to win yesterday.
They hit them with 5 bullets and they're still alive! Â
I am not impressed with Bettcher right now. All we heard was during the preseason was how we will be having guys coming from everywhere and it will give offenses fits. Um, I don't think I can recall a blitz designed where the offense looked confused at all and didn't know who to pick up. Our players just simply run into blockers and we aren't winning those matchups.
I hate when I hear dedensive coaches talk about how they have to win their one on one matchups. That isn't coaching. That is praying. An offense cannot double every defender. In fact, just by pure numbers almost every pass block is a one on one matchup. That is what every offense wants. Get a hat on a hat. Why should DC be okay with that. They should be fucking with the blocking scheme and trying to get a free rusher. We are sending a lot of players that get picked up and that leaves us extremely vulnerable on the back end. If we are going to do that I'd rather just get more guys in coverage.
Yes, the defense has played well for stretches but it doesn't last and more often than not the plays are being made in the secondary and not at the QB.
In Bettcher's defense, he hasn't had a consistent reliable pass rusher (we can only hope Vernon's return will remedy that), plus the weaknesses at FS/CB have been somewhat limiting. I think we sometimes forget just how bad this team was on both sides of the ball after last year. There are still a number of holes at critical positions (e.g., ER, FS, RG, RT, Nickle/Dime CB).
Go Saints
Go Saints
Oline pass blocking seems much improved, however Barkley is still getting hit before he can get to the freaking line. I’d like to see them maybe pull the Guards or use an H-Back or FB to help open some holes for Barkley, because right now, the only way they’re gaining yards on the ground is through spectacular moves by him.
Do these guys have what it takes to keep fighting? As you said...the season isn’t over yet seeing as the rest of the division isn’t exactly setting the world on fire
He said he was fine but you know what that means.
I hate when I hear dedensive coaches talk about how they have to win their one on one matchups. That isn't coaching. That is praying. An offense cannot double every defender. In fact, just by pure numbers almost every pass block is a one on one matchup. That is what every offense wants. Get a hat on a hat. Why should DC be okay with that. They should be fucking with the blocking scheme and trying to get a free rusher. We are sending a lot of players that get picked up and that leaves us extremely vulnerable on the back end. If we are going to do that I'd rather just get more guys in coverage.
Yes, the defense has played well for stretches but it doesn't last and more often than not the plays are being made in the secondary and not at the QB.
Barkley is not Vernon, he’ll play
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hoping Barkley's ankle is OK for Thursday. He looked like he landed awkwardly and was painfully limping to the sideline after the TD.
Barkley is not Vernon, he’ll play
Oh, for fucks sake.
Thinking the same thing. Its games like this you look to see who is buying into the coaching themes or not...
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hoping Barkley's ankle is OK for Thursday. He looked like he landed awkwardly and was painfully limping to the sideline after the TD.
Barkley is not Vernon, he’ll play
Thats a cheap shot.. besides for this season I want Giants to win on sundays but by monday I am already over the loss.. this is a multiple year building project.. I'd rather Barkley take a day off and then play at 90%...
The only true problem is that the Giants are playing a team who has had their number for the past 6 seasons.
The Giants have to find a way to beat Philly, and they can't do with Manning throwing picks, and the defense taking stupid penalties.
I hate the Eagles more than any other team in sports, so this game is the most important game of the year so far.
I want to see some trick plays like the one they used yesterday with Beckham throwing to Barkley.
The Giants need to build some confidence, and winning a game against a division rival that has owned them would be huge.
Kill Philly! GO BIG BLUE!!
Things are cyclical
Dallas 2-3
Philadelphia 2-3
Washington 2-1 (tough game tonight @NO)
No one is head and shoulders above the other.
Brett, no and I agree about the Eagles.
I don't think they are playoff bound (Giants) but I do think they are starting to come together. As frustrating as Sunday was, I think they showed the "energy" as the game wore on. CAR only took that W because of the refs and a 63 yd FG. This Thursday will be the litmus.
Do these guys have what it takes to keep fighting? As you said...the season isn’t over yet seeing as the rest of the division isn’t exactly setting the world on fire
FYI...They did
Ehhh..I don't know. The Eagles aren't running the ball anywhere near the way they did last year. I think they miss Blount and the back they got from Miami is overrated IMO. And their pass defense is really an issue versus teams that can sling it. And, they have age on their DL.
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I think the Eagles are better than their record. But my pessimism derives from how this team has looked more than anything else. Does anyone really think this looks like even a 9-7 team?
Brett, no and I agree about the Eagles.
I don't think they are playoff bound (Giants) but I do think they are starting to come together. As frustrating as Sunday was, I think they showed the "energy" as the game wore on. CAR only took that W because of the refs and a 63 yd FG. This Thursday will be the litmus.
Blaming the refs is lame, our star QB threw two picks in the fourth quarter, that is a recipe for disaster in the NFL!
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I think the Eagles are better than their record. But my pessimism derives from how this team has looked more than anything else. Does anyone really think this looks like even a 9-7 team?
Brett, no and I agree about the Eagles.
I don't think they are playoff bound (Giants) but I do think they are starting to come together. As frustrating as Sunday was, I think they showed the "energy" as the game wore on. CAR only took that W because of the refs and a 63 yd FG. This Thursday will be the litmus.
Blaming the refs is lame, our star QB threw two picks in the fourth quarter, that is a recipe for disaster in the NFL!
The star QB that gave us the lead with 50 seconds left? Eli wasn't perfect but he gave us enough to win yesterday.
I hate when I hear dedensive coaches talk about how they have to win their one on one matchups. That isn't coaching. That is praying. An offense cannot double every defender. In fact, just by pure numbers almost every pass block is a one on one matchup. That is what every offense wants. Get a hat on a hat. Why should DC be okay with that. They should be fucking with the blocking scheme and trying to get a free rusher. We are sending a lot of players that get picked up and that leaves us extremely vulnerable on the back end. If we are going to do that I'd rather just get more guys in coverage.
Yes, the defense has played well for stretches but it doesn't last and more often than not the plays are being made in the secondary and not at the QB.