I don’t know what the fuck just happened. I don’t know why Sevy didn’t seem to know the start time of the game, I don’t know why they were seemingly on every pitch of his, I don’t know why Boone was so slow with the hook, I don’t know why Lynn is the first guy out of the pen with the game in reach. I certainly don’t know why Nathan Eolvaldi is now unhittable
But nothing to be done about it now. Gotta win a game tomorrow. Just get it done.
He has the pedigree for it. Would have liked our chances to go up 2-1 more with him and then be able to waste a game tmw if need be. Now that our backs are against the wall, how do we all feel about CC and our odds tomorrow night? Hopefully a similar type of performance we saw when our backs were up against the wall several times last October.
is he's not even that great, below average at best. Thing is he has been owning the Yanks, almost like he has something to prove still? Bottom line is the Yankees don't have a true Ace in this team, without great pitching its very hard to win games in the Playoffs. It's another level come playoffs in baseball..
is he's not even that great, below average at best. Thing is he has been owning the Yanks, almost like he has something to prove still? Bottom line is the Yankees don't have a true Ace in this team, without great pitching its very hard to win games in the Playoffs. It's another level come playoffs in baseball..
Not sure if I agree with this take. Sox have an ace and we could have easily won game one. Last year we beat the Indians with Kluber. Yanks have a lot going for them. Sure it would be nice to have an ace too. But many ways to win.
Now the Yanks have a put up or shut up game tomorrow. How this could be a surprise to anyone is confusing. When has a series between these two teams ever not been stressful as fuck and dramatic in the playoffs?
Now the Yanks have a put up or shut up game tomorrow. How this could be a surprise to anyone is confusing. When has a series between these two teams ever not been stressful as fuck and dramatic in the playoffs?
I’m betting on a game 5.
I think the more frustrating thing was in how our bats looked on Saturday night, how down the Sox were complete with Judge's in your face moment walking by their clubhouse at Fenway (yes, I too shared the clip on FB), how awful their pen has been and finally our "ace" taking on Nathan fucking Eovaldi and getting ass-fucked with eye contact by them in our house.
Now we are facing another pitcher who kinda owns us in an elimination game. Sorry, but this one really fucking sucked.
Regardless, what the fuck is going on when the starting pitcher isn't Fucking ready?
I'm sure Boone will have it answered and all clocked for tomorrow. Sorry, but he sucks.
So unbelievably disappointing.
Yeah. Boone sucks so much. He’s totally the reason the Yankees scored 1 run and lost game 3.
Get a fucking grip.
No. But he definitely left 40 in far too long and then brings in our middling starter/reliever with the bases loaded and nobody out. That probably should have been Betances to be honest. Nobody's going to run on him. And he might have shut that inning down. Instead, Humpty Bumpty Lynn falls off the mound.
Its not ALL his fault, but 10-0 in the 4th tends to suck the life out of an offense.
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Regardless, what the fuck is going on when the starting pitcher isn't Fucking ready?
I'm sure Boone will have it answered and all clocked for tomorrow. Sorry, but he sucks.
So unbelievably disappointing.
Yeah. Boone sucks so much. He’s totally the reason the Yankees scored 1 run and lost game 3.
Get a fucking grip.
No. But he definitely left 40 in far too long and then brings in our middling starter/reliever with the bases loaded and nobody out. That probably should have been Betances to be honest. Nobody's going to run on him. And he might have shut that inning down. Instead, Humpty Bumpty Lynn falls off the mound.
Its not ALL his fault, but 10-0 in the 4th tends to suck the life out of an offense.
The life had been sucked out of the offense since the start of the game and was into super suck mode right up to Severino’s fateful inning.
The score? 0-0, 1-0, 10-0. It didn’t matter. The bottom line is that, this big, scary offense could only muster up one measly run tonight. Plain and simple. There’s plenty of blame to go around, but singling out Boone for this game is ridiculous.
offensive performance against Eovaldi. Spare me that he throws hard and has good stuff, the guy against the rest of baseball quite simply has been at best a mediocre pitcher for his entire career. But this team can't hit him.
It wouldnt have mattered but Boone was totally lost tonight. Severino didn't have it, and he somehow let him start the 4th, and then somehow let him pitch to three guys in the 4th.
Brock Holt with a cycle? I'm sick of mediocre at best players playing like lou gehrig against the Yanks, nauseating.
Win tomorrow and then thursday is a coin flip. That's the only positive out of tonight
Got some good sleep early on as I have a long day today with my main job and then working a concert at night. Will miss the game but hopefully they get the job done tonight and force a game 5.
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Then, what's wrong with Sevy? I've been asking that question since BEFORE the All-Star Break. Is it simply location? Pitch selection? Something else?
Sevy's secondary pitches are not being thrown for strikes. He wasted pitches left and right when ahead in the count and was especially bad against the bottom of the order not attacking batters, ala Sonny Gray.
Then, what's wrong with Sevy? I've been asking that question since BEFORE the All-Star Break. Is it simply location? Pitch selection? Something else?
Sevy's secondary pitches are not being thrown for strikes. He wasted pitches left and right when ahead in the count and was especially bad against the bottom of the order not attacking batters, ala Sonny Gray.
Interesting. Does he need to develop some sort of off-speed pitch -- that he can throw for strikes -- to give hitters something to think about?
Got some good sleep early on as I have a long day today with my main job and then working a concert at night. Will miss the game but hopefully they get the job done tonight and force a game 5.
I retired early last night as well and got some sleep. Work all day today and then head over to a friends house to do some computer work for him. Let's hope the Yanks force Game 5.
Have to bring Pedro back to talk to Sevy this offseason. Â
Can’t count on Rothschild to fix Sevy. It’s discouraging that, after last year’s success, this year his slider has not become more dependable and his change hasn’t advanced.
Last night he was 95-96mph with his fastball, flat and up in the zone. They were pounding those. Sox are full of disciplined hitters and not biting on his sliders and changes.
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Interesting. Does he need to develop some sort of off-speed pitch -- that he can throw for strikes -- to give hitters something to think about?
It is just my opinion based on his last few games (and a half season). We bash Eovaldi, whose FB is comparable to Severino's. But Eovaldi was getting called strikes on the cutter where Sevy was not getting calls on his slider.
Sox were sitting on his FB because he wasn't getting the slider or change called for strikes. MLB Network had the graphic up last week on Sevy's slider 1st half and 2nd half. 1st half it was consistently low and on the outside corner or just off. 2nd half it was all over from middle-middle to way low and away. So the hitters just out wait him. Even when he gets ahead, the off speed stuff is so bad they won't offer. How many times was he ahead in the count and then got to 3-2? Guess what was coming? Instead of pounding the zone inside or high with FB it seemed all he did was slider, slider, change..
Guy has way too much talent to end up throwing 30 pitches to the bottom of the order and giving up runs.
is he's not even that great, below average at best. Thing is he has been owning the Yanks, almost like he has something to prove still? Bottom line is the Yankees don't have a true Ace in this team, without great pitching its very hard to win games in the Playoffs. It's another level come playoffs in baseball..
Eovaldi has been a helluva lot better than below average this year, and the cutter he developed in Tampa has been a big addition for him.
Eovaldi's 2018 WHIP was 1.126. J.A. Happ's WHIP was 1.131, 7th best in the AL. Sevy was 10th in the AL with a 1.145.
Eovaldi's ERA+ was 112, right between J.A. Happ at 117 and Dallas Keuchel at 108. Strike Out / Walks for Eovaldi was an ass-kicking 5.05, which would have been Top 5 right between Carlos Carrasco and Sevy if he had enough innings to qualify.
Eovaldi only pitched 111 innings this year after coming back in surgery at the end of May. When he's been on the mound, he's been pretty close to being a right handed J.A. Happ this year.
Houston is going to kick the crap out of whoever advances in this series anyway. If you think the Yankees can’t hit Eovaldi, just wait for Verlander and Cole.
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Houston is going to kick the crap out of whoever advances in this series anyway. If you think the Yankees can’t hit Eovaldi, just wait for Verlander and Cole.
Without question, Houston is the best team, and it will take a Herculean effort to beat them. The ALDS sweep allows them to set up their starting pitching for maximum dominance, too. Bregman making the leap from good to great player has taken that whole team to another level.
For the Yanks, in spite of the ass whooping they took, it only counts as one loss.
The game starts at 0-0 tonight.
As for MLB, I think last night they won the case Angel Hernandez has brought against them. If that wasn't evidence enough of his incompetence, I'm not sure what is.
I read something this morning about the overturn rate on replay for MLB umps being around 47%. Hernandez has an overturn rate of in the mid 70's.
Hopefully tonight's starter knows when the game begins Â
and the outfielders are all wear cleats instead of slippers.
I'm probably in the minority but I think the warmup thing is blown way out of proportion. It's not like Sevy got lit up in the 1st inning.
Plus he did get to warm up in the pen so it's not like he came in cold. I mean what were they going to do to him for not being on the mound on time? He got his warm ups in.
If anything it probably pissed the Sox off but I honestly don't think it had an effect on his shitty outing. We've seen him pitch like this several times in the 2nd half of the season.
but it was just a bad look for the team and the coaching staff in particular. They can downplay it, but he clearly got a late start. Not sure I've seen outfielders changing cleats in the dugout after the first inning either. Just felt like the Yankees were unprepared last night. I think they'll bounce back tonight.
but pitchers still have to make pitches. The Red Sox were all over everything last night and our offense was completely shut down.
Last night was not a great match-up for the Yankees. From Fangraphs:
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High velocity was on order via the night’s starting pitching matchup, which pitted the two AL starters with the fastest average fastballs in Severino (97.9 mph, per Pitch Info) and Nathan Eovaldi (97.5). Both had fared well against the other team this year (Severino 3.56 ERA and 2.53 FIP in 30.1 innings, Eovaldi 1.93 ERA and 2.82 FIP in 23.1 innings), but the truth is that the Red Sox came in well set up to counter Severino. Via Statcast, they owned the majors’ highest xwOBA, second-highest batting average, third-highest slugging percentage, and fourth-highest wOBA against fastballs from righties of 96 mph or higher. The Yankees, meanwhile, placed anywhere from 10th to 17th by those measures:
but it was just a bad look for the team and the coaching staff in particular. They can downplay it, but he clearly got a late start. Not sure I've seen outfielders changing cleats in the dugout after the first inning either. Just felt like the Yankees were unprepared last night. I think they'll bounce back tonight.
Cleats had nothing to do with anything. The ground may have been dry in warmups and turned slick in the mist. Clearly Gardy ran down everything in the 1st inning. Changing footwear happens in every sport. Players wear shorter cleats or nubbies to keep from tripping or catching cleats in the grass.
Severino showing up late for warmups is another story. Probably expected an 8:05 start. Even I thought it was weird to start at 7:35. But that is on the coaches, yes.
Well done, assholes.
But nothing to be done about it now. Gotta win a game tomorrow. Just get it done.
Regardless, what the fuck is going on when the starting pitcher isn't Fucking ready?
I'm sure Boone will have it answered and all clocked for tomorrow. Sorry, but he sucks.
So unbelievably disappointing.
1 - Severino just seems to labor, can't finish guys off. Like others said, seems like a decent possibility of pitch tipping
2 - The rookies having just miserable ABs.
3 - Boone showing how not to manage the arms.
FUCK. Now the season sits on CC, find a way.
This is exactly what happened. From the very first batter, Sevvy was not hitting his spots. Not even close to ace material at this point.
Bingo, the tipping pitches thing has been mentioned here for months and it’s simply not the reason he’s struggling. It’s an excuse.
Not sure if I agree with this take. Sox have an ace and we could have easily won game one. Last year we beat the Indians with Kluber. Yanks have a lot going for them. Sure it would be nice to have an ace too. But many ways to win.
I’m betting on a game 5.
Regardless, what the fuck is going on when the starting pitcher isn't Fucking ready?
I'm sure Boone will have it answered and all clocked for tomorrow. Sorry, but he sucks.
So unbelievably disappointing.
Yeah. Boone sucks so much. He’s totally the reason the Yankees scored 1 run and lost game 3.
Get a fucking grip.
I’m betting on a game 5.
I think the more frustrating thing was in how our bats looked on Saturday night, how down the Sox were complete with Judge's in your face moment walking by their clubhouse at Fenway (yes, I too shared the clip on FB), how awful their pen has been and finally our "ace" taking on Nathan fucking Eovaldi and getting ass-fucked with eye contact by them in our house.
Now we are facing another pitcher who kinda owns us in an elimination game. Sorry, but this one really fucking sucked.
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8:05p start.
Regardless, what the fuck is going on when the starting pitcher isn't Fucking ready?
I'm sure Boone will have it answered and all clocked for tomorrow. Sorry, but he sucks.
So unbelievably disappointing.
Yeah. Boone sucks so much. He’s totally the reason the Yankees scored 1 run and lost game 3.
Get a fucking grip.
No. But he definitely left 40 in far too long and then brings in our middling starter/reliever with the bases loaded and nobody out. That probably should have been Betances to be honest. Nobody's going to run on him. And he might have shut that inning down. Instead, Humpty Bumpty Lynn falls off the mound.
Its not ALL his fault, but 10-0 in the 4th tends to suck the life out of an offense.
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8:05p start.
Regardless, what the fuck is going on when the starting pitcher isn't Fucking ready?
I'm sure Boone will have it answered and all clocked for tomorrow. Sorry, but he sucks.
So unbelievably disappointing.
Yeah. Boone sucks so much. He’s totally the reason the Yankees scored 1 run and lost game 3.
Get a fucking grip.
No. But he definitely left 40 in far too long and then brings in our middling starter/reliever with the bases loaded and nobody out. That probably should have been Betances to be honest. Nobody's going to run on him. And he might have shut that inning down. Instead, Humpty Bumpty Lynn falls off the mound.
Its not ALL his fault, but 10-0 in the 4th tends to suck the life out of an offense.
The life had been sucked out of the offense since the start of the game and was into super suck mode right up to Severino’s fateful inning.
The score? 0-0, 1-0, 10-0. It didn’t matter. The bottom line is that, this big, scary offense could only muster up one measly run tonight. Plain and simple. There’s plenty of blame to go around, but singling out Boone for this game is ridiculous.
It wouldnt have mattered but Boone was totally lost tonight. Severino didn't have it, and he somehow let him start the 4th, and then somehow let him pitch to three guys in the 4th.
Brock Holt with a cycle? I'm sick of mediocre at best players playing like lou gehrig against the Yanks, nauseating.
Win tomorrow and then thursday is a coin flip. That's the only positive out of tonight
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Wow. glad I didnt waste one second watching.
Loser Giants, Loser Yankees. I am better than this.
Shouldn't you and daddy be plotting your next caper to rob senior citizens of their life savings?
Simo trash.
Whatever you guys need to feel better about your night.
I'm not the one who wasted my last two days watching the Giants and the Yankees.
...but hey! How many games did the Sawx win this year, coasting the last 3 weeks of the season?
And didn't they beat up on the Yanks?
And weren't some of their wins double-digit?
But 16 to 1in a crucial playoff game at home?
Two Touchdowns and a Safety?
Maybe the Giants should run a few of their plays.
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Wow. glad I didnt waste one second watching.
Loser Giants, Loser Yankees. I am better than this.
Shouldn't you and daddy be plotting your next caper to rob senior citizens of their life savings?
Simo trash.
Whatever you guys need to feel better about your night.
I'm not the one who wasted my last two days watching the Giants and the Yankees.
You just wasted them trolling about them on a message board. Way to go champ!
Then, what's wrong with Sevy? I've been asking that question since BEFORE the All-Star Break. Is it simply location? Pitch selection? Something else?
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the Yankees would have caught on and fixed it.
Then, what's wrong with Sevy? I've been asking that question since BEFORE the All-Star Break. Is it simply location? Pitch selection? Something else?
Sevy's secondary pitches are not being thrown for strikes. He wasted pitches left and right when ahead in the count and was especially bad against the bottom of the order not attacking batters, ala Sonny Gray.
No. Don't pay any attention to Mets game threads. Sorry.
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the Yankees would have caught on and fixed it.
Then, what's wrong with Sevy? I've been asking that question since BEFORE the All-Star Break. Is it simply location? Pitch selection? Something else?
Sevy's secondary pitches are not being thrown for strikes. He wasted pitches left and right when ahead in the count and was especially bad against the bottom of the order not attacking batters, ala Sonny Gray.
Interesting. Does he need to develop some sort of off-speed pitch -- that he can throw for strikes -- to give hitters something to think about?
I retired early last night as well and got some sleep. Work all day today and then head over to a friends house to do some computer work for him. Let's hope the Yanks force Game 5.
Last night he was 95-96mph with his fastball, flat and up in the zone. They were pounding those. Sox are full of disciplined hitters and not biting on his sliders and changes.
Interesting. Does he need to develop some sort of off-speed pitch -- that he can throw for strikes -- to give hitters something to think about?
It is just my opinion based on his last few games (and a half season). We bash Eovaldi, whose FB is comparable to Severino's. But Eovaldi was getting called strikes on the cutter where Sevy was not getting calls on his slider.
Sox were sitting on his FB because he wasn't getting the slider or change called for strikes. MLB Network had the graphic up last week on Sevy's slider 1st half and 2nd half. 1st half it was consistently low and on the outside corner or just off. 2nd half it was all over from middle-middle to way low and away. So the hitters just out wait him. Even when he gets ahead, the off speed stuff is so bad they won't offer. How many times was he ahead in the count and then got to 3-2? Guess what was coming? Instead of pounding the zone inside or high with FB it seemed all he did was slider, slider, change..
Guy has way too much talent to end up throwing 30 pitches to the bottom of the order and giving up runs.
Eovaldi has been a helluva lot better than below average this year, and the cutter he developed in Tampa has been a big addition for him.
Eovaldi's 2018 WHIP was 1.126. J.A. Happ's WHIP was 1.131, 7th best in the AL. Sevy was 10th in the AL with a 1.145.
Eovaldi's ERA+ was 112, right between J.A. Happ at 117 and Dallas Keuchel at 108. Strike Out / Walks for Eovaldi was an ass-kicking 5.05, which would have been Top 5 right between Carlos Carrasco and Sevy if he had enough innings to qualify.
Eovaldi only pitched 111 innings this year after coming back in surgery at the end of May. When he's been on the mound, he's been pretty close to being a right handed J.A. Happ this year.
Without question, Houston is the best team, and it will take a Herculean effort to beat them. The ALDS sweep allows them to set up their starting pitching for maximum dominance, too. Bregman making the leap from good to great player has taken that whole team to another level.
For the Yanks, in spite of the ass whooping they took, it only counts as one loss.
The game starts at 0-0 tonight.
As for MLB, I think last night they won the case Angel Hernandez has brought against them. If that wasn't evidence enough of his incompetence, I'm not sure what is.
I read something this morning about the overturn rate on replay for MLB umps being around 47%. Hernandez has an overturn rate of in the mid 70's.
I'm probably in the minority but I think the warmup thing is blown way out of proportion. It's not like Sevy got lit up in the 1st inning.
Plus he did get to warm up in the pen so it's not like he came in cold. I mean what were they going to do to him for not being on the mound on time? He got his warm ups in.
If anything it probably pissed the Sox off but I honestly don't think it had an effect on his shitty outing. We've seen him pitch like this several times in the 2nd half of the season.
Damn right we are!
LOL
Last night was not a great match-up for the Yankees. From Fangraphs:
https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/boone-fiddles-while-the-bronx-burns/ - ( New Window )
Cleats had nothing to do with anything. The ground may have been dry in warmups and turned slick in the mist. Clearly Gardy ran down everything in the 1st inning. Changing footwear happens in every sport. Players wear shorter cleats or nubbies to keep from tripping or catching cleats in the grass.
Severino showing up late for warmups is another story. Probably expected an 8:05 start. Even I thought it was weird to start at 7:35. But that is on the coaches, yes.
...from last night's f-ing humiliation:
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