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dep026 : 10/9/2018 7:55 am
Lots of decisions this week. I need 1 RB, 1 WR, and a flex to choose from:

Yeldon
Alfred Morris
Cooks
Cooper
Jeffrey

Jeffrey is playing against jackrabbit and the weather is suppose to be nasty too. Right now I have Yeldon, Morris, and cooks.
That's the direction I would go.  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/9/2018 7:59 am : link
Morris had double-digit points in PPR even though Breida was rolling until he got hurt.
Cooks still has to clear the concussion protocol  
YAJ2112 : 10/9/2018 8:49 am : link
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RE: Cooks still has to clear the concussion protocol  
dep026 : 10/9/2018 8:52 am : link
In comment 14115280 YAJ2112 said:
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McVey said he’s confident he will clear it. Problem is Jeffrey plus Thursday and I have to make a decision on him.
RE: RE: Cooks still has to clear the concussion protocol  
YAJ2112 : 10/9/2018 8:55 am : link
In comment 14115286 dep026 said:
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McVey said he’s confident he will clear it. Problem is Jeffrey plus Thursday and I have to make a decision on him.


We'll see... either way, I believe it's a Cooper week as Seattle is a zone team
I went 4-1 this week  
allstarjim : 10/9/2018 10:00 am : link
So why am I so pissed? Because the 1 "L". Just needed one touchdown from either Kamara or Thomas. Just one. If you had said before the game New Orleans would put up 43 points and none of those points would come from Kamara or Michael Thomas I would've put up my money.

WTF. My season low in points, I got zero TD's from Ridley, Julio Jones, nothing from Jared Cook, and nothing from the aforementioned Saints at home.

I blame Alex Smith for sucking ass. I'm 2-3 in that league playing a team that's tied for first this week at 4-1 with Kamara and Thomas on bye. Not good.

So, with that, do I dare play Corey Davis at home vs Baltimore or stick with James Conner in the flex on the road against Cincinatti?

Should I risk playing O.J. Howard in Atlanta over Jared Cook home vs Seattle?

Conner over Davis for sure  
YAJ2112 : 10/9/2018 10:14 am : link
and pretty sure OJ Howard is out for a few weeks.
Kamara owners have to be steaming  
dep026 : 10/9/2018 10:17 am : link
If thats how they are going to use Ingram, then Kamara is now a RB/Flex guy. Maybe its just how Ingram coming back and getting him reps. But shit, Kamara was barely used at all.
I believe Payton did hat  
UConn4523 : 10/9/2018 10:26 am : link
to effectively give Kamara 2 weeks off. That said I still think it’s going to be a 60/40 snap share. Ingram is too good to sit and having both fresh for a SB run only makes sense.
RE: Kamara owners have to be steaming  
schabadoo : 10/9/2018 10:42 am : link
In comment 14115426 dep026 said:
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If thats how they are going to use Ingram, then Kamara is now a RB/Flex guy. Maybe its just how Ingram coming back and getting him reps. But shit, Kamara was barely used at all.


Kamara owners should be 3-2/4-1, hard to feel too bad.

Last night looked great for us Ingram owners.
I think that was  
allstarjim : 10/9/2018 10:42 am : link
somewhat about game flow. With about 4 minutes to go in the third, Alex Smith has the ball, 4th and 2, score is 33-13, if he gets his team down for a TD there then it's 33-20 with a lot of time left and Brees and the offense is still pushing it. Instead, he nearly throws a pick-six, ran back to the 4, they score on the next play, and now it's 40-13 and Smith fumbles again on the next possession turning it over, so at that point there is no need to try and score more points or risk any of your stars.

So screw you Alex Smith!
RE: RE: Kamara owners have to be steaming  
allstarjim : 10/9/2018 10:45 am : link
In comment 14115484 schabadoo said:
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If thats how they are going to use Ingram, then Kamara is now a RB/Flex guy. Maybe its just how Ingram coming back and getting him reps. But shit, Kamara was barely used at all.



Kamara owners should be 3-2/4-1, hard to feel too bad.

Last night looked great for us Ingram owners.


I'm 2-3. I had Jimmy G, traded for Carson Wentz. I'm in 6th place, but my team has scored the 3rd highest point total in the league, even after an 82 point stinker this week. This week's matchup looks terrible. So I'm very likely staring 2-4 in the face and facing a must-win week 7 and 8 for that matter.
I don’t think it was about game flow as much  
UConn4523 : 10/9/2018 10:57 am : link
Ingram coming out guns blazing and looking great. He dominated the touches in the first half when it was still a game. I really think it was in part due to Ingram not missing a beat and then just allowing Kamara to rest up through the BYE.
My only TE is Njoku and I'd like to add either Doyle or Olsen...  
Milton : 10/9/2018 12:24 pm : link
Both are available but for a limited time only now that they are ready to return from injury. Problem is, I need to drop a WR and they are all roster-worthy.
Would you drop Watkins, Golladay, or Ridley for Doyle or Olsen?Olsen is home against New Orleans and Atlanta in weeks 15 and 16 (the playoff weeks) and my team is 5-0 so I'm already looking ahead.
I hate Watkins  
UConn4523 : 10/9/2018 12:29 pm : link
he’s basically the 4th option in KC. He’d be the guy of those I drop for Olsen but why don’t you just drop Njoku for Olsen?
Post your full team  
UConn4523 : 10/9/2018 12:30 pm : link
because there’s gotta be someone you can drop.
I like Njoku too now that Mayfield is at QB  
Milton : 10/9/2018 12:54 pm : link
Here's my team...
QB: Brees, Roethlisberger, Rivers
RB: Gurley, DJ, Breida, Lindsay
WR: OBJ, Tate, Golladay, Lockett, Watkins, Ridley
TE: Njoku

Lockett has added value because the league gives a point for every 10 return yards on punt and kick returns (and because of that, Lockett is currently the sixth ranked WR in points scored this year and finished 10th in points last year). Also, at QB the league gives a point for every 10 yards throwing (not 25 yards standard in most leagues), a point for every completion, minus half a point for every incompletion, and 6 points per TD toss (so it's a QB-driven league). Brees, Roethlisberger, and Rivers are currently ranked 1st, 6th, and 7th respectively in points scored.
is it a 2 QB league?  
giants#1 : 10/9/2018 12:57 pm : link
If not, dump a QB.
RE: I hate Watkins  
Milton : 10/9/2018 12:58 pm : link
In comment 14115762 UConn4523 said:
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he’s basically the 4th option in KC. He’d be the guy of those I drop for Olsen but why don’t you just drop Njoku for Olsen?
I'm not crazy about Watkins either, but I want to be patient with him because there's a lot of upside. Reid didn't give him $16M/year to serve as a decoy.
RE: is it a 2 QB league?  
Milton : 10/9/2018 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14115823 giants#1 said:
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If not, dump a QB.
I like having options based on matchups and weather conditions once the playoff weeks 15 and 16 roll around. And at 5-0, I can afford to look ahead.
he's more than a decoy  
giants#1 : 10/9/2018 1:00 pm : link
but he's not taking touches away from Hunt, Kelce, or Hill.

Reid gave him market value because he has a QB on a rookie deal and wanted to make his transition as easy as possible (i.e. load up on weapons).
RE: I like Njoku too now that Mayfield is at QB  
YAJ2112 : 10/9/2018 1:01 pm : link
In comment 14115815 Milton said:
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Here's my team...
QB: Brees, Roethlisberger, Rivers
RB: Gurley, DJ, Breida, Lindsay
WR: OBJ, Tate, Golladay, Lockett, Watkins, Ridley
TE: Njoku

Lockett has added value because the league gives a point for every 10 return yards on punt and kick returns (and because of that, Lockett is currently the sixth ranked WR in points scored this year and finished 10th in points last year). Also, at QB the league gives a point for every 10 yards throwing (not 25 yards standard in most leagues), a point for every completion, minus half a point for every incompletion, and 6 points per TD toss (so it's a QB-driven league). Brees, Roethlisberger, and Rivers are currently ranked 1st, 6th, and 7th respectively in points scored.


You really need to trade a QB and one of your DET WRs (or Watkins) for a better WR.
Watkins looks great in that offense.  
Keith : 10/9/2018 1:01 pm : link
He’s a good flex/bench option. If hill ever got hurt, he’d be a wr2.
Yeah, I too would try to package a qb  
Keith : 10/9/2018 1:02 pm : link
and wr for s better wr. See who is really lacking at qb
Yeah I've been trying to work a trade...  
Milton : 10/9/2018 1:07 pm : link
Either packaging a QB and WR for a WR or two WRs for one WR, but it's one of those leagues where not a lot of trades happen. Last year was my first year in the league and the only trades that happened were ones that I initiated. There were times I'd offer a trade and get no response at all, not even a rejection, it would just hang there until the time limit elapsed. That's already happened once this year.
No reason to carry 3 QBs  
UConn4523 : 10/9/2018 1:08 pm : link
that’s an easy drop for me.
RE: I like Njoku too now that Mayfield is at QB  
giants#1 : 10/9/2018 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14115815 Milton said:
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Here's my team...
QB: Brees, Roethlisberger, Rivers
RB: Gurley, DJ, Breida, Lindsay
WR: OBJ, Tate, Golladay, Lockett, Watkins, Ridley
TE: Njoku

Lockett has added value because the league gives a point for every 10 return yards on punt and kick returns (and because of that, Lockett is currently the sixth ranked WR in points scored this year and finished 10th in points last year). Also, at QB the league gives a point for every 10 yards throwing (not 25 yards standard in most leagues), a point for every completion, minus half a point for every incompletion, and 6 points per TD toss (so it's a QB-driven league). Brees, Roethlisberger, and Rivers are currently ranked 1st, 6th, and 7th respectively in points scored.


QBs are often the highest scorers, even in standard leagues. But the difference between the 6th ranked QB and the 15th ranked is typically less than for other positions, hence the decreased value relative to the other positions (RB, WR). For instance, in one of my leagues (std QB scoring with 6 pt TDs), Rivers is 6th with 27.6 pts/game. CJ Beathard is 15th with 23.4 pts/game (15% less).

On the other hand, Conner is the #6 RB (0.5 ppr) at 20.2 pts/game while AP is 15th at 14.3 pts/game (29% less!).

You're wasting a roster spot on a 3rd QB, though based on your roster (assuming its not a keeper league) you're playing with idiots so it doesn't matter.
RE: RE: I like Njoku too now that Mayfield is at QB  
Milton : 10/9/2018 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14115891 giants#1 said:
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QBs are often the highest scorers, even in standard leagues. But the difference between the 6th ranked QB and the 15th ranked is typically less than for other positions, hence the decreased value relative to the other positions (RB, WR). For instance, in one of my leagues (std QB scoring with 6 pt TDs), Rivers is 6th with 27.6 pts/game. CJ Beathard is 15th with 23.4 pts/game (15% less).

On the other hand, Conner is the #6 RB (0.5 ppr) at 20.2 pts/game while AP is 15th at 14.3 pts/game (29% less!).

You're wasting a roster spot on a 3rd QB, though based on your roster (assuming its not a keeper league) you're playing with idiots so it doesn't matter.
It's an auction league if you're wondering how I would up with Gurley, DJ, and OBJ on the same roster, but it's also true that they aren't the sharpest bunch I'm up against. Point being they aren't all idiots and there are some other strong lineups that could use an improvement at QB (one guy has Hopkins, Tyreek Hill, and Keenan Allen at WR but his QBs are Dalton and Smith) and I'd rather not hand them Rivers on a silver platter (Rivers is at KC week 15, if I drop him, he could be the QB I face in the playoffs that week).
Btw  
Milton : 10/9/2018 1:58 pm : link
I left out the fact that it's an IDP league that starts seven defensive players. It wasn't really relevant because I never keep more than seven on my roster. It's also another reason I landed such strong players on offense. While others were spending on defensive players like Kuechley, Watt, Mack, Wagner, and Mosley, I spent just $1 for each of my seven and came away with one of the strongest defenses in the league (DL: Danielle Hunter; LB: Leonard, Hicks, Hitchens, Littleton; DB: Harrison Smith, Kazee).
Got Drew Brees on a bye week  
Motley Two : 10/9/2018 2:36 pm : link
Got Bortles goin in his place right now, but wondering if I should consider any of the free agent QBs instead of him.

Winston
Keenum
Beathard
Trubisky
Bortles
Allen
Tannehill
Rosen

That's the order my Yahoo league has them projected. Yahoo has Winston projected about 6 points higher than Bortles.

But Bortles has been beating out their projections by a good amount so far and is the 11th QB in my league's scoring through the first 5 weeks.


matchups for the lazy among us?  
giants#1 : 10/9/2018 2:38 pm : link
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RE: Got Drew Brees on a bye week  
YAJ2112 : 10/9/2018 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14116012 Motley Two said:
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Got Bortles goin in his place right now, but wondering if I should consider any of the free agent QBs instead of him.

Winston
Keenum
Beathard
Trubisky
Bortles
Allen
Tannehill
Rosen

That's the order my Yahoo league has them projected. Yahoo has Winston projected about 6 points higher than Bortles.

But Bortles has been beating out their projections by a good amount so far and is the 11th QB in my league's scoring through the first 5 weeks.



I'd go Winston vs an Atlanta team that's missing a bunch of their starting D.

RE: matchups for the lazy among us?  
Motley Two : 10/9/2018 2:42 pm : link
In comment 14116020 giants#1 said:
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Winston @ Atlanta
Keenum vs. Rams
Beathard @ Green Bay
Trubisky @ Miami
Bortles @ Dallas
Allen @ Houston
Tannehill vs. Chicago...yeah nope
Rosen @ Minny
I 2nd Winston then  
giants#1 : 10/9/2018 2:46 pm : link
the other Ds are borderline top 10 against the pass and I think the Vikes will turn it around. Plus Rosen's looked like crap.

2nd choice would be Trubisky.
RE: I 2nd Winston then  
Motley Two : 10/9/2018 2:51 pm : link
In comment 14116034 giants#1 said:
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the other Ds are borderline top 10 against the pass and I think the Vikes will turn it around. Plus Rosen's looked like crap.

2nd choice would be Trubisky.


Those were the two I was thinking. Trubisky lit it up the last time we saw them, hoping the idea of feeding Tarik Cohen more has clicked for them.
Anything can happen (so go with your gut)...  
Milton : 10/9/2018 3:10 pm : link
But include me with the Winston crowd.
Thoughts on Seattle RB Chris Carson?  
AJ23 : 10/9/2018 3:43 pm : link
Considering trading a 4th or 5th round 2019 pick to acquire him from the last place team in my keeper league (.5pt PPR). My team is cruising outside of the RB position, where I just took another hit with the loss of Ajayi. Here's my roster:

QB (1): Pat Mahomes
RB (2): Devonta Freeman, Corey Clement / Dion Lewis, Tevin Coleman, Alfred Morris
WR (2): Odell Beckham, Robert Woods / Sterling Shepard, Mohamed Sanu, Jamison Crowder
TE (1): Jared Cook / Jack Doyle
W/R/T (1): (see above)
DEF (1): Chicago / Houston

I would aim higher than Carson, but no other team in the league is conceding at this point. I'm probably just going to sit tight, but would like BBI's opinion on Carson.
Eli vs PHI or or Mayfield vs LAC  
pjcas18 : 10/9/2018 3:50 pm : link
as a bye week fill in for Brees?
RE: Eli vs PHI or or Mayfield vs LAC  
Motley Two : 10/9/2018 4:23 pm : link
In comment 14116140 pjcas18 said:
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as a bye week fill in for Brees?


That's a tough call. Thursday night games are so weird, but that could easily be good weird (fantasy-wise)

I think Eli is more boom or bust and Mayfield is the more conservative play.
Help guys...  
Leg of Theismann : 10/9/2018 6:46 pm : link
Need to pick 1 WR and 1 Flex out of this bunch:

WR Landry v. LAC
WR Sanders v. LAR
WR Baldwin @ OAK
RB Hyde v. LAC

I'm leaning toward Landry and Hyde. Only other possibility I'm considering is Sanders over Hyde.

Actually, more important decision in my other league:  
Leg of Theismann : 10/9/2018 8:06 pm : link
WR Julian Edelman or RB Chris Carson in the flex? Standard scoring.

I'm leaning Edelman because I think he has a higher floor and I'm favored to win, but a lot of "experts" are saying Carson.
RE: Actually, more important decision in my other league:  
Leg of Theismann : 10/9/2018 8:08 pm : link
In comment 14116387 Leg of Theismann said:
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WR Julian Edelman or RB Chris Carson in the flex? Standard scoring.

I'm leaning Edelman because I think he has a higher floor and I'm favored to win, but a lot of "experts" are saying Carson.


I also have the option of starting Carson over White and then deciding between White and Edelman in the flex, but I'm pretty sure I want White in no matter what. Let me know what you guys think. Thanks!
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