it's a nice house but a million dollars? The price of homes is crazy.
Montclair is crazy expensive to live in. I'm from that town and go back quite frequently. That is about right for that sized home in Mtc. There are 6/7 stops in the town alone to go into the city on the train. My parents have paid off their mortgage for almost 20 years and their property taxes are between 15-20k a year just to live in a house they have owned for that long.
The street in the background of that house looks like it's around Brookdale Park. Maybe The Fairway, Summit Ave., Cooper Ave or even Bellevue.
But as it turns out, apparently JPP lived 200m as the crow flies and about 3 blocks from my folks'.
If you go to the listing and check the map, my parents live 3 houses in on Montclair off of McDonough. Crazy. Usually the athletes live down on the South End or Upper Mountain ave where Strahan used to live.
You should see what that same $1.25M gets you in Brooklyn.
And we're still comparatively cheap when you look at some other places, like SF.
where I live in park slope that gets you about 1,000 square feet since homes are now going for about 1200/sf. JPP's house was selling for about $250/sf. Brooklyn is beyond insane. Can't even imagine SF if its worse.
In Montclair, right around the corner from Glenfield middle school. Absolutely loved the town and would've raised my kids there as well of it hadn't gotten so expensive. Still have family there though.
And this is why I moved out of NJ (where I grew up) Â
Is right around the corner from Bill Parcells' shore house down there. I'm actually not sure if he still owns it lol. I just remember as kids we would always go over there and knock on the door and say "Is Bill Parcells here?" LMAO. He was one time.
In Montclair, right around the corner from Glenfield middle school. Absolutely loved the town and would've raised my kids there as well of it hadn't gotten so expensive. Still have family there though.
30K+. Montclair doesn't even have a good school system. Sheesh.
Still, relatively modest house for a prominent athlete.
Iys true. Meanwhile the adjacent town Gen Ridge is number 35 in the state.
But Montclair is an absolutely great town. Its beautiful, but couldnt fathom buying there.
A lot of differences between the two towns. Only thing in common is they are both on the train line. Montclair has an array of shops, restaurants and bars. Glen Ridge has 1 bar/restaurant in the town and is probably 1/4 the size of Montclair.
Both towns give people a different option of the life they want and their kids to have.
JPP's house is about 250 yards from the Glen Ridge border, if his house was in GR, it would have sold north of $1.3m
Had a house on the water in Brick off Barnegat Bay and left when they upped the tax to $4500/yr in '95. Wonder what it is now?
4300 feet is no small house.
The worst part about it is the ridiculous shit that the town spends the money on. Town has 4 or 5 elementary schools, 3 middle schools and then another 3 private schools. Its insane.
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30K+. Montclair doesn't even have a good school system. Sheesh.
Still, relatively modest house for a prominent athlete.
Iys true. Meanwhile the adjacent town Gen Ridge is number 35 in the state.
But Montclair is an absolutely great town. Its beautiful, but couldnt fathom buying there.
A lot of differences between the two towns. Only thing in common is they are both on the train line. Montclair has an array of shops, restaurants and bars. Glen Ridge has 1 bar/restaurant in the town and is probably 1/4 the size of Montclair.
Both towns give people a different option of the life they want and their kids to have.
JPP's house is about 250 yards from the Glen Ridge border, if his house was in GR, it would have sold north of $1.3m
Youre not wrong. The houses on Ridgewood ave border of the two towns are absolutely magnificent.
Weird thing is Bloomfield. I am planning on moving back to the area to be closer to my parents and Bloomfield is really my only hope to find a place that I can afford. Bloomfield is significantly cheaper than Montclair and Glen Ridge and is right there.
Had a house on the water in Brick off Barnegat Bay and left when they upped the tax to $4500/yr in '95. Wonder what it is now?
4300 feet is no small house.
The worst part about it is the ridiculous shit that the town spends the money on. Town has 4 or 5 elementary schools, 3 middle schools and then another 3 private schools. Its insane.
Had a house on the water in Brick off Barnegat Bay and left when they upped the tax to $4500/yr in '95. Wonder what it is now?
4300 feet is no small house.
The worst part about it is the ridiculous shit that the town spends the money on. Town has 4 or 5 elementary schools, 3 middle schools and then another 3 private schools. Its insane.
Education is ridiculous shit?
Yes, thats what Im saying. Try again.
Montclair is certainly the best compromise if you can't live in NYC. Â
In fact, a lot of NYC transplants are moving to Maplewood, South Orange, and Montclair if they value diversity.
The problem is the public school system isn't great despite the high taxes. Imagine having to pay 20K+ for tax, and then another 30K for Kimberly Academy.
At least towns like Summit, Millburn, Chatham, and Ridgewood have good school systems.
Great place to live, but it started getting ridiculous with the taxes. We bought a small house (1300 sf. or so) in 2011. The property taxes were $7000. By the time we moved in 2016 they were at $11000.
Between the taxes, commuting costs, and day care we reduced our monthly expenditures by about $2000 with no reduction in municipal services and a much bigger house. NJ is getting ridiculous.
Great place to live, but it started getting ridiculous with the taxes. We bought a small house (1300 sf. or so) in 2011. The property taxes were $7000. By the time we moved in 2016 they were at $11000.
Between the taxes, commuting costs, and day care we reduced our monthly expenditures by about $2000 with no reduction in municipal services and a much bigger house. NJ is getting ridiculous.
Do you mind if I ask where Terps? Just curious. 2011 was the year before I moved to Philly.
Your sister probably knew my parents' house very well if she had kids. We have been known for our Halloween set up on Montclair Ave for easily over 2 decades. My parents are 68 and 73 and they still go all out for that night. flying things, swinging things, loud speakers with my Dad's voice dubbed over Halloween sounds. There's usually a line about 75 yards long down the sidewalk for it. Now I go up every year to help them hang shit up and what not.
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Great place to live, but it started getting ridiculous with the taxes. We bought a small house (1300 sf. or so) in 2011. The property taxes were $7000. By the time we moved in 2016 they were at $11000.
Between the taxes, commuting costs, and day care we reduced our monthly expenditures by about $2000 with no reduction in municipal services and a much bigger house. NJ is getting ridiculous.
Do you mind if I ask where Terps? Just curious. 2011 was the year before I moved to Philly.
I had an apartment on Park Ave. (near Bloomfield High School and the library) in 2010-2011, and had a house on State St. just north of the high school 2011-2016 before moving out here to Oregon.
Really liked living there. Walkable, great restaurants (I really miss Anthony's Cheesecake and would recommend it...Anthony's a good guy), open space to walk my dog and go running, and when my kid was born we liked his daycare down the street (though it was pricey at $1200). The commute just got to be too much (I worked all the way down in Freehold in Monmouth County), and the troubles at the state economic level were really starting to trickle down to local level projects we were working on. It was time to go and I'm glad I did, but I really enjoyed living there and would recommend it to anyone.
On Park Ave. I opened Bar Cara on Broad and Watchung with the chef/owner. Obals is probably my go to watering hole when Im up tere.
Youre commute was going the wrong way. Lol. I commuted into the city for 5 years when living in Montclair and really never minded it. I actually miss being able to have a cup of coffee and read the paper for 30 mins and then the brisk walk thru Manhattan to get to work.
very expensive, but I've given some thought to returning lately. My thing is that if I'm going to live there, it would be to be near the city. No point buying beach homes, cabins, or farmland in the state. You can get acreage, beachfront property, or mountain property for a fraction in the rest of the country.
What is unique is the access to the city. That's really the (potential) draw for me.
I grew up a town or two over from Montclair in the 1970s. Tall trees, on the erstwhile Erie Lackawanna train line to Manhattan, 80-year-old gas lamps (that are still there), slate rooves, amazing architecture: the charm is incredible. I do well working & living on an island off the Gulf Coast of Florida, but if you were to give me outright today the house I grew up in, I would struggle merely paying the property taxes which were close to $30k per year last I checked.
I'd love to live back there but it has just gotten too expensive for me.
Boy, does this thread bring back memories. Lived in a studio apartment at 1022 Broad Street, Bloomfield back in the summer of 1967 ... right after graduating from college and working my first "real" job at The Prudential in Newark. Rent: $93.00/month. The riots in downtown Newark that summer were free!
I lived on Montclair Ave for a few years growing up... Â
Just a few blocks away. Grandparents still live in Upper Montclair. Crazy expensive, but I have some fond memories of Watching Plaza and the parks over there.
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Just a few blocks away. Grandparents still live in Upper Montclair. Crazy expensive, but I have some fond memories of Watching Plaza and the parks over there.
What house Dunedin and when?
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Just a few blocks away. Grandparents still live in Upper Montclair. Crazy expensive, but I have some fond memories of Watching Plaza and the parks over there.
What house Dunedin and when?
191. 1982-1986. My other grandparents lived there and we used to return every few months until they retired to NH in the 90's. They lived elsewhere on Montclair Avenue and on Christopher Street before I was born.
RE: RE: RE: I lived on Montclair Ave for a few years growing up... Â
Just a few blocks away. Grandparents still live in Upper Montclair. Crazy expensive, but I have some fond memories of Watching Plaza and the parks over there.
What house Dunedin and when?
191. 1982-1986. My other grandparents lived there and we used to return every few months until they retired to NH in the 90's. They lived elsewhere on Montclair Avenue and on Christopher Street before I was born.
Did you know the Fleischers? The Goldbergs? I was born in 79 so I was just a lil guy at 137, but the Fleischers and the Goldbergs had kids older than me.
Great parties on that street. Block parties that were basically .3 of a mile. My birthday parties there were so many kids on that street that we used to play Ghosts in the Graveyard until about 10 at night.
I love visiting that place so much. Its really goibg to create a hole in my life when my parents are gone.
Every trip up, I have to get a pie from Mr. Dinos at least once.
But it's pretty rare as most of my family has moved. My grandparents still alive in Upper Montclair but are pretty reclusive. The kids smile politely when I tell them about this place or that (same is true of Morris County, where I went to HS, or Monroe, where I lived when I was in elementary school) but it's not all that meaningful at this point.
But it's pretty rare as most of my family has moved. My grandparents still alive in Upper Montclair but are pretty reclusive. The kids smile politely when I tell them about this place or that (same is true of Morris County, where I went to HS, or Monroe, where I lived when I was in elementary school) but it's not all that meaningful at this point.
Town's changed a lot. But the residential areas are much the same. Though one thing I really miss are 4th of July Fireworks at Woodman field. Now they are at Yogi Berra.
Montclair is crazy expensive to live in. I'm from that town and go back quite frequently. That is about right for that sized home in Mtc. There are 6/7 stops in the town alone to go into the city on the train. My parents have paid off their mortgage for almost 20 years and their property taxes are between 15-20k a year just to live in a house they have owned for that long.
The street in the background of that house looks like it's around Brookdale Park. Maybe The Fairway, Summit Ave., Cooper Ave or even Bellevue.
I don't know how young folks can buy one. To get something "decent" on Long Island you need upwards of $300,000 and 10k a year for property tax.
Sucks.
If you go to the listing and check the map, my parents live 3 houses in on Montclair off of McDonough. Crazy. Usually the athletes live down on the South End or Upper Mountain ave where Strahan used to live.
I don't know how young folks can buy one. To get something "decent" on Long Island you need upwards of $300,000 and 10k a year for property tax.
Sucks.
The idea of buying a house hasn't even crossed my mind. Unless I wanted to stay down here in Philly....which is not the case.
And we're still comparatively cheap when you look at some other places, like SF.
Except you'd be in Dallas.
And we're still comparatively cheap when you look at some other places, like SF.
I think that is kind of a bad example. Im pretty sure NYC is second ONLY to SF in terms of most expensive metro areas to live in.
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You get way more for your money.
Except you'd be in Dallas.
Exactly!
Just one of several sources I looked at. - ( New Window )
Still, relatively modest house for a prominent athlete.
Still, relatively modest house for a prominent athlete.
Iys true. Meanwhile the adjacent town Gen Ridge is number 35 in the state.
But Montclair is an absolutely great town. Its beautiful, but couldnt fathom buying there.
And soooooo overpopulated in the northeastern and central counties. Commuting into NYC every day is an absolute horror show.
And we're still comparatively cheap when you look at some other places, like SF.
where I live in park slope that gets you about 1,000 square feet since homes are now going for about 1200/sf. JPP's house was selling for about $250/sf. Brooklyn is beyond insane. Can't even imagine SF if its worse.
Tyrik, Pine St?
Had a house on the water in Brick off Barnegat Bay and left when they upped the tax to $4500/yr in '95. Wonder what it is now?
4300 feet is no small house.
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30K+. Montclair doesn't even have a good school system. Sheesh.
Still, relatively modest house for a prominent athlete.
Iys true. Meanwhile the adjacent town Gen Ridge is number 35 in the state.
But Montclair is an absolutely great town. Its beautiful, but couldnt fathom buying there.
A lot of differences between the two towns. Only thing in common is they are both on the train line. Montclair has an array of shops, restaurants and bars. Glen Ridge has 1 bar/restaurant in the town and is probably 1/4 the size of Montclair.
Both towns give people a different option of the life they want and their kids to have.
JPP's house is about 250 yards from the Glen Ridge border, if his house was in GR, it would have sold north of $1.3m
Had a house on the water in Brick off Barnegat Bay and left when they upped the tax to $4500/yr in '95. Wonder what it is now?
4300 feet is no small house.
The worst part about it is the ridiculous shit that the town spends the money on. Town has 4 or 5 elementary schools, 3 middle schools and then another 3 private schools. Its insane.
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30K+. Montclair doesn't even have a good school system. Sheesh.
Still, relatively modest house for a prominent athlete.
Iys true. Meanwhile the adjacent town Gen Ridge is number 35 in the state.
But Montclair is an absolutely great town. Its beautiful, but couldnt fathom buying there.
A lot of differences between the two towns. Only thing in common is they are both on the train line. Montclair has an array of shops, restaurants and bars. Glen Ridge has 1 bar/restaurant in the town and is probably 1/4 the size of Montclair.
Both towns give people a different option of the life they want and their kids to have.
JPP's house is about 250 yards from the Glen Ridge border, if his house was in GR, it would have sold north of $1.3m
Youre not wrong. The houses on Ridgewood ave border of the two towns are absolutely magnificent.
Weird thing is Bloomfield. I am planning on moving back to the area to be closer to my parents and Bloomfield is really my only hope to find a place that I can afford. Bloomfield is significantly cheaper than Montclair and Glen Ridge and is right there.
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taxes? That is unethical, truly unethical.
Had a house on the water in Brick off Barnegat Bay and left when they upped the tax to $4500/yr in '95. Wonder what it is now?
4300 feet is no small house.
The worst part about it is the ridiculous shit that the town spends the money on. Town has 4 or 5 elementary schools, 3 middle schools and then another 3 private schools. Its insane.
Education is ridiculous shit?
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taxes? That is unethical, truly unethical.
Had a house on the water in Brick off Barnegat Bay and left when they upped the tax to $4500/yr in '95. Wonder what it is now?
4300 feet is no small house.
The worst part about it is the ridiculous shit that the town spends the money on. Town has 4 or 5 elementary schools, 3 middle schools and then another 3 private schools. Its insane.
Education is ridiculous shit?
Yes, thats what Im saying. Try again.
The problem is the public school system isn't great despite the high taxes. Imagine having to pay 20K+ for tax, and then another 30K for Kimberly Academy.
At least towns like Summit, Millburn, Chatham, and Ridgewood have good school systems.
Between the taxes, commuting costs, and day care we reduced our monthly expenditures by about $2000 with no reduction in municipal services and a much bigger house. NJ is getting ridiculous.
Between the taxes, commuting costs, and day care we reduced our monthly expenditures by about $2000 with no reduction in municipal services and a much bigger house. NJ is getting ridiculous.
Do you mind if I ask where Terps? Just curious. 2011 was the year before I moved to Philly.
Your sister probably knew my parents' house very well if she had kids. We have been known for our Halloween set up on Montclair Ave for easily over 2 decades. My parents are 68 and 73 and they still go all out for that night. flying things, swinging things, loud speakers with my Dad's voice dubbed over Halloween sounds. There's usually a line about 75 yards long down the sidewalk for it. Now I go up every year to help them hang shit up and what not.
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Great place to live, but it started getting ridiculous with the taxes. We bought a small house (1300 sf. or so) in 2011. The property taxes were $7000. By the time we moved in 2016 they were at $11000.
Between the taxes, commuting costs, and day care we reduced our monthly expenditures by about $2000 with no reduction in municipal services and a much bigger house. NJ is getting ridiculous.
Do you mind if I ask where Terps? Just curious. 2011 was the year before I moved to Philly.
I had an apartment on Park Ave. (near Bloomfield High School and the library) in 2010-2011, and had a house on State St. just north of the high school 2011-2016 before moving out here to Oregon.
Really liked living there. Walkable, great restaurants (I really miss Anthony's Cheesecake and would recommend it...Anthony's a good guy), open space to walk my dog and go running, and when my kid was born we liked his daycare down the street (though it was pricey at $1200). The commute just got to be too much (I worked all the way down in Freehold in Monmouth County), and the troubles at the state economic level were really starting to trickle down to local level projects we were working on. It was time to go and I'm glad I did, but I really enjoyed living there and would recommend it to anyone.
Youre commute was going the wrong way. Lol. I commuted into the city for 5 years when living in Montclair and really never minded it. I actually miss being able to have a cup of coffee and read the paper for 30 mins and then the brisk walk thru Manhattan to get to work.
Hopefully soon.
Truffle Mac was good. They were more lnown for the polenta fries w/ gorg fonduta, the ricotta gnocchi and the pork burger.
I wasnt there at that point. I was only there for the first 6 months before I couldnt stand the owner (DePersio) any longer and moved on.
But it was a good place. They just couldnt get the service model down.
What is unique is the access to the city. That's really the (potential) draw for me.
For those not familiar, google "upper mountain avenue montclair" to see mansions.
I'd love to live back there but it has just gotten too expensive for me.
Not there off of grove
What house Dunedin and when?
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Just a few blocks away. Grandparents still live in Upper Montclair. Crazy expensive, but I have some fond memories of Watching Plaza and the parks over there.
What house Dunedin and when?
191. 1982-1986. My other grandparents lived there and we used to return every few months until they retired to NH in the 90's. They lived elsewhere on Montclair Avenue and on Christopher Street before I was born.
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Just a few blocks away. Grandparents still live in Upper Montclair. Crazy expensive, but I have some fond memories of Watching Plaza and the parks over there.
What house Dunedin and when?
191. 1982-1986. My other grandparents lived there and we used to return every few months until they retired to NH in the 90's. They lived elsewhere on Montclair Avenue and on Christopher Street before I was born.
Did you know the Fleischers? The Goldbergs? I was born in 79 so I was just a lil guy at 137, but the Fleischers and the Goldbergs had kids older than me.
I love visiting that place so much. Its really goibg to create a hole in my life when my parents are gone.
Every trip up, I have to get a pie from Mr. Dinos at least once.
Town's changed a lot. But the residential areas are much the same. Though one thing I really miss are 4th of July Fireworks at Woodman field. Now they are at Yogi Berra.
Place will always hold a place in my heart.