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10 of 15 runs for 1 yard or less -- Baldy breakdown

RobCarpenter : 10/9/2018 4:37 pm
Just brutal. Omameh always moving sideways instead of pushing forward.
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This is why it’s hard to get too excited  
BillT : 10/9/2018 4:57 pm : link
Last week they played better overall but they cannot run block and the pass protection is certainly suspect as well. Teams will exploit this all year long. Just average blocking and this offense could be good. Don’t see how we’re going to get that.
wow that is bad  
Jints in Carolina : 10/9/2018 4:59 pm : link
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OMameh was suppsoed to be a descent  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/9/2018 5:00 pm : link
run blocker, what happened to that?
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Toth029 : 10/9/2018 5:04 pm : link
Goddamnit Eli. Do your f'n job.
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arcarsenal : 10/9/2018 5:07 pm : link
Who the fuck is coaching these players and why are they struggling with such basic technique?

The sheer quality of play in this league or lackthereof is staggering. Guys can't tackle, they can't block, they can't make basic reads...

The athletes are getting better but the basics are getting worse.

Just so many stupid things happening on the field now.
Doesn't our OL coach  
Leg of Theismann : 10/9/2018 5:09 pm : link
have like a long history of losing? Like his only NFL job was for the Browns the last 2 years or something like that?
I don't pretend to understand technique  
RobCarpenter : 10/9/2018 5:33 pm : link
But if you can't push your guy forward no wonder they are in the backfield all the time on running plays.

RE: OMameh was suppsoed to be a descent  
mdc1 : 10/9/2018 5:47 pm : link
In comment 14116236 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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run blocker, what happened to that?


The other guy in front of him gets paid to win too!
RE: Doesn't our OL coach  
Diver_Down : 10/9/2018 5:48 pm : link
In comment 14116243 Leg of Theismann said:
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have like a long history of losing? Like his only NFL job was for the Browns the last 2 years or something like that?


Hal Hunter is a longtime NFL veteran OL coach. I wasn't happy to hear when he was hired, but a new HC sometimes doesn't have a full staff that is available and willing so they have to rely on who is available to round out the staff. Often, those that are available are for a reason in that they aren't in demand. Hal had been out of football last year. Before that I think he was the Colts OL coach, Chargers OL coach, and the Browns OL coach.
hog mollies  
mdc1 : 10/9/2018 5:50 pm : link
with the footwork of hobbits..

seriously though, we have some guys really lacking quickness and are beat before they can even use technique.
At least they somewhat stuck with it which is important  
robbieballs2003 : 10/9/2018 5:51 pm : link
We need to continue to do so. It'll get better even though it doesn't seem like it.

The one complaint I have is it seems like every time we wqnt to run we load up the box. Why? There are times to do so and times not to. I think Barkley would be way more effective with a five man line with the defense spread out. Give him lanes to run. We need to mix it up.
I think  
phil in arizona : 10/9/2018 5:52 pm : link
eventually Greco gets kicked out to RG and Pulley goes to C.
RE: At least they somewhat stuck with it which is important  
Dan in the Springs : 10/9/2018 6:48 pm : link
In comment 14116282 robbieballs2003 said:
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We need to continue to do so. It'll get better even though it doesn't seem like it.

The one complaint I have is it seems like every time we wqnt to run we load up the box. Why? There are times to do so and times not to. I think Barkley would be way more effective with a five man line with the defense spread out. Give him lanes to run. We need to mix it up.


Agree absolutely. When we don't win the double-teams why would we want to invite more defenders into the box? Running from the spread seems like something we should be trying more, especially against teams with large defenders who are difficult to move.

Carolina has a big front four and very rangy talented LBers behind them. It was going to be a challenge to run against them. I like how we were willing to try, but I'd have preferred we get the defense spread out more and do more to get some space for Barkley. Jet sweep seems like it would get those LB moving out. Any other misdirection seems like a good idea.

The TD (OBJ to SB) was an example of how to use weapons on offense to misdirect the defense. Need more of that, imo.

Quit making excuses  
HomerJones45 : 10/9/2018 7:18 pm : link
these guys suck. They can't get any push with a double team! Greco gets a bit of a pass because he's filling in for Halapio but his next stop is out of football. If Omemah was any good, the Jags, who live and die by the run, would have kept him.
And DJ Fluker is out there  
SHO'NUFF : 10/9/2018 7:47 pm : link
pancaking Suh one-on-one.
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Shaun O'Hara was showing some plays where Barkley  
BestFeature : 10/9/2018 7:48 pm : link
left some yards out on the field too. So I guess it's not all the line. Hopefully, this is just a rookie learning in less than ideal conditions.
more  
SHO'NUFF : 10/9/2018 7:50 pm : link
Fluker
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more  
SHO'NUFF : 10/9/2018 7:53 pm : link
more Fluker
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RE: And DJ Fluker is out there  
Tuckrule : 10/9/2018 8:32 pm : link
In comment 14116373 SHO'NUFF said:
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pancaking Suh one-on-one. Check out @geoffschwartz’s Tweet - ( New Window )


He tripped over the guy on the ground. I wouldn’t call it a pancake
RE: more  
Rjanyg : 10/9/2018 11:23 pm : link
In comment 14116376 SHO'NUFF said:
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Fluker Check Check out @VeteranScout’s Tweet - ( New Window )


I felt Fluker was a good addition last year. He should have been brought back for at least 2 years. He is way better than Omameh.
So glad to see someone else say this...  
EricJ : 10/9/2018 11:45 pm : link
For the past two pre-seasons I had a few mini arguments with a few people about our OL. I was told it is just pre-season and it is a vanilla offense, blah blah.

My point was that I was watching the OL get pushed backwards on every play by the guy lined up in front of them. My concern was that this is not a scheme or play calling issue... it is a physical domination problem where our guys are on the losing end too often.
RE: OMameh was suppsoed to be a descent  
christian : 10/10/2018 1:29 am : link
In comment 14116236 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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run blocker, what happened to that?


Omameh was never a good run blocking guard. The Jags averaged their lowest productivity on the ground to his side.

He's just big -- and that got confused with powerful on this site. There are a few good write-ups on the web about how bad of a run blocker he is.
Omameh  
JFIB : 10/10/2018 7:47 am : link
Is a huge disappointment. I really thought he would be an upgrade over Jerry but it's a wash from my POV.
I disagree on two  
Now Mike in MD : 10/10/2018 1:41 pm : link
In the second run, if Omameh focuses on the DL, Kuechly shoots the gap and makes the play. I don't think he can just double team or that Baldy can know that a double team is what the play called for. On the third run, it looks like Omameh's job was to seal off the DL for a run inside, which SB had, but instead he chose to bounce it outside. I think that's on SB not Omameh.
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