Thought I was about to catch a walk off grand slam but alas.
Of our free agents I’d ideally bring back McCutchen, DRob, Happ and Britton. It’s unlikely they bring back both relievers though. They’ll desperately need to add a starter, but I’m worried Corbin is Sonny 2.0.
I’d not pick up Gardner’s option.
huh?
RF - Judge
SS - Machado (F/A signing)
DH - Stanton
3B - Didi
2B - Torres
1B - Voit/NWalker
C - Wilson Ramos (F/A signing)
LF - Frazier/McCutch
SP
Jacob deGrom (ship Sanchez, Andujar and Monty to Mets)
Dallas Keuchel (F/A signing)
Tanaka
Happ (re-sign)
Severino
Great insight. Did you even pay attention to the moves he made in-season? Happ and Cutch breathed new life into the team. I don't think Britton worked out as well as we'd hoped, but it was definitely a no brainer. He did all that without really giving up a meaningful prospect. We have problems, but Cash is not even close to one of them.
To your point I'm done with Sanchez. The guy is such a lazy player, and has no plate discipline whatsoever. Give me Wilson Ramos and Romine as my catchers and ship out Sanchez and perhaps Andujar for some top-tier pitching.
Should the Yankees sign Machado they could Andujar to first or perhaps left field where his strong throwing arm would be an asset.
Should the Yankees sign Machado they could Andujar to first or perhaps left field where his strong throwing arm would be an asset.
Andujar is the one tradeable piece they have for pitching. They need starting pitching. Who is out there that we could have?
Should the Yankees sign Machado they could Andujar to first or perhaps left field where his strong throwing arm would be an asset.
Andujar is an infielder. Can’t just say “let’s stick him left where his arm willl be an asset”. Playing left at Yankee stadium is a tough task. Look at gardys catch. Very few left fielders make that play. I would love manny at third. Would def trade miggy and someone else for an arm
Andujar is the one tradeable piece they have for pitching. They need starting pitching. Who is out there that we could have?
the holdover established starters
1. Sevy
2. Tanaka
3. Gray
hoping to return from injury
4. Monty
likely to make his mlb debut next year
5. Justus Sheffield
hoping they improve heading into next season
6. Chance Adams
7. Domingo German
8. Jonathan Loaisiga
big name international free agent
Yusei Kikuchi
potential free agent targets
Patrick Corbin (29 years old, 5.7 WAR)
Dallas Keuchel (31, 3.4)
J.A. Happ (36, 2.5)
CC Sabathia (38, 2.2)
Nathan Eovaldi (29, 1.5)
Gio Gonzalez (33, 1.4)
plenty of pitching to be had for nothing other than money, without making a roster depleting trade for an ace.
The problem is it's not a great pitching market. Even if Kershaw opts out, he's on the decline. He's declining from being the best pitcher in baseball so if he's reasonably healthy they can still get some value, but he's a minimum $25 mil per. Corbin? Maybe, but the ask is going to be astronomical.
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Andujar is the one tradeable piece they have for pitching. They need starting pitching. Who is out there that we could have?
the holdover established starters
1. Sevy
2. Tanaka
3. Gray
hoping to return from injury
4. Monty
likely to make his mlb debut next year
5. Justus Sheffield
hoping they improve heading into next season
6. Chance Adams
7. Domingo German
8. Jonathan Loaisiga
big name international free agent
Yusei Kikuchi
potential free agent targets
Patrick Corbin (29 years old, 5.7 WAR)
Dallas Keuchel (31, 3.4)
J.A. Happ (36, 2.5)
CC Sabathia (38, 2.2)
Nathan Eovaldi (29, 1.5)
Gio Gonzalez (33, 1.4)
plenty of pitching to be had for nothing other than money, without making a roster depleting trade for an ace.
I'm sure JA Happ will be resigned. I would at least hope so.
I'm not saying they have to trade Andujar, but with Machado out there as a Free Agent, the Yanks could certainly sign him, and then trade Andujar for a pitching upgrade.
It doesn't have to happen.
Would love to see Justus play in the bigs as a starter.
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Machado is one of the worst shortstops in the game defensively but one of the elite third baseman defensively?
Should the Yankees sign Machado they could Andujar to first or perhaps left field where his strong throwing arm would be an asset.
Andujar is the one tradeable piece they have for pitching. They need starting pitching. Who is out there that we could have?
Degrom... period!
His arm was tired. I’m more concerned with injury than anything else. He was muscling up and lost command. I think sevy will be fine. He’s so young still.
They need a lefty bat. They do not need Cutch nor should they resign him. I think they’re going to get Harper. The Machado talk also doesn’t make sense unless you deal Andujar for a SP.
I don’t trade Gary while his value is low. Would be foolish.
Corbin is a New Yorker and not a weirdo so sonny gray comparison is off.
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Machado is one of the worst shortstops in the game defensively but one of the elite third baseman defensively?
Should the Yankees sign Machado they could Andujar to first or perhaps left field where his strong throwing arm would be an asset.
Andujar is the one tradeable piece they have for pitching. They need starting pitching. Who is out there that we could have?
Degrom... period!
Would love it. But the Mets already said unless Gleyber Torres is the first name going back the Yankees shouldn't even bother. Again would love Degrom but not sure I want to pay the Mets price.
He might be responsible for 2-3 wins in the regular season directly and maybe a handful more indirectly, but he was pretty much useless in the playoffs. How much better would we be had we signed JD Martinez instead?
And picking Boone as the manager was just pure arrogance, I am sure he regrets it but probably won’t do anything.
The system isn’t so stocked with ready prospects now, I fear we are looking at a couple of mega deals this offseason.
Having said that, doesn't it seem like we need some more contact hitters in the lineup? Guys who can work the count a little bit better than what we've got?
The only antidote I've seen for outstanding starting pitching in the playoffs is to have guys at the plate who are very good at running up the pitch count. Wasn't that a critical part of our success in years past? It seems that's what beats us too.
Got two strikes on me? Too bad, I'm going to foul off anything near the plate. I'll adjust my swing and turn it into at least 7 pitches to get me out. With any luck I'll find a way to get on base. If not, at least you won't likely get out of the fifth inning with less than 90 pitches or so.
I know that the starting pitching let us down. But then again, scoring matters right? 8 runs across three losses isn't exactly giving a ton of run support, is it?
Patrick Corbin
Other than that, it's about who is reasonably priced (whether it's a free agent or trade target).
Stanton is going nowhere. 9 more years probably 2000 more strikeouts. You would have thought after Arod the Yankees would know better but I guess not. I don't think any team would would take his contract if the Yankees put him on waivers which I'm not sure they could do since he has a full no trade.
The Yankees got nothing from Sanchez or Bird this year. Bird may not even be on the team going forward. Sanchez is one of their core players hopefully this year was just a bad dream. Is anyone sold on Voit as full time 1B going forward? He's another bad defender in an infield full of them except Didi.
They got a great unexpected regular season bat from Andujar. It remains to be seen if he learns how to be an elite hitter or he's just going to be a guy who puts up numbers over 162 games which is still very valuable. It remains to be seen if he can ever field well enough to stay at 3B. Do we think they can live with his historically bad defense for another year?
Torres disappointed me in some ways. Not that I expected a 21 year old to be fully developed at his age but his fielding wasn't good at all and he got away from being a hitter and tried to hit a HR on every pitch. Hopefully he doesn't go backward next year. He is one of their core players.
Sounds like they'll pick up Gardner's option and Ellsbury is still under contract. So they'll let McCutchen walk. Frazier will get a chance to make the team. Hicks, Judge & Stanton will all be back too.
The luxury tax has been reset so no more talk about Hal's money.
If I ran the Yankees I'd sign Manny to play 3B and trade Andujar for young pitchers plural. I'd sign Corbin. I'd resign CC. I'd resign Happ. I'd resign Britton & Robertson too
The way their offense is built to hit HR's and nothing else they're going to score a ton of regular season runs but they're also going to be wildly inconsistent. The pitching is going to have to be much more consistent and the starting pitching is going to have to be much better to win a World Series with this offense and defense.
5 games is a small sample size and we suffered from the injury bug this season.
Gary Sanchez needs to drop 15-20 lbs this offseason. Obviously he's never going to be a great defensive catcher, but his current level is indefensible and all that extra weight has got to be hell on the knees too.
Stanton is going nowhere. 9 more years probably 2000 more strikeouts. You would have thought after Arod the Yankees would know better but I guess not. I don't think any team would would take his contract if the Yankees put him on waivers which I'm not sure they could do since he has a full no trade.
The Yankees got nothing from Sanchez or Bird this year. Bird may not even be on the team going forward. Sanchez is one of their core players hopefully this year was just a bad dream. Is anyone sold on Voit as full time 1B going forward? He's another bad defender in an infield full of them except Didi.
They got a great unexpected regular season bat from Andujar. It remains to be seen if he learns how to be an elite hitter or he's just going to be a guy who puts up numbers over 162 games which is still very valuable. It remains to be seen if he can ever field well enough to stay at 3B. Do we think they can live with his historically bad defense for another year?
Torres disappointed me in some ways. Not that I expected a 21 year old to be fully developed at his age but his fielding wasn't good at all and he got away from being a hitter and tried to hit a HR on every pitch. Hopefully he doesn't go backward next year. He is one of their core players.
Sounds like they'll pick up Gardner's option and Ellsbury is still under contract. So they'll let McCutchen walk. Frazier will get a chance to make the team. Hicks, Judge & Stanton will all be back too.
The luxury tax has been reset so no more talk about Hal's money.
If I ran the Yankees I'd sign Manny to play 3B and trade Andujar for young pitchers plural. I'd sign Corbin. I'd resign CC. I'd resign Happ. I'd resign Britton & Robertson too
The way their offense is built to hit HR's and nothing else they're going to score a ton of regular season runs but they're also going to be wildly inconsistent. The pitching is going to have to be much more consistent and the starting pitching is going to have to be much better to win a World Series with this offense and defense.
Here's a blueprint on what not to do.
The Red Sox did not win because they're built like some small ball team. We have greater depth throughout the lineup. They won because in a small set of games they hit better than we did; there was largely no difference in fundamental philosophy.
Anyone who thinks Gleyber Torres was a disappointment this year has bizarre ideas on what to expect from their 2B. If Gleyber Torres literally had this year for the next 7-8 years and never progressed and played 145 games a year, we're talking about a multiple-time all star and one of the best offensive infielders of his generation. And that's WITHOUT any progression from a 21 year old.
Let's slow down.
RF - Judge
SS - Machado (F/A signing)
DH - Stanton
3B - Didi
2B - Torres
1B - Voit/NWalker
C - Wilson Ramos (F/A signing)
LF - Frazier/McCutch
SP
Jacob deGrom (ship Sanchez, Andujar and Monty to Mets)
Dallas Keuchel (F/A signing)
Tanaka
Happ (re-sign)
Severino
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He traded suckass Starlin Castro and two longshot kids in the low minors for the reigning MVP. If you think that's a "bad" trade, then there's no reason to ever pay attention to anything you ever have to say in the future.
It's not about what was given up, it's about the guaranteed contract that still has ten years remaining on it. I'm not saying it was a bad trade, but it's worthy of debate.
Exactly, it was a horrendous contract to take on. Guy feasted on shitty NL pitching and is a choke artist.
Thanks for the clarification.
I'm talking about guys who adjust their swings on difficult pitches to make sure they stay alive in a count. Yes, I want patient hitters who work the count, but I also don't think we need so many guys who swing their hardest every time.
I saw several hitters this postseason adjust their swing to make sure to stay alive, almost always fouling off the ball but staying alive. It seems like the Yankees don't do a lot of that.
I'm also wondering about how much losing Gary Denbo might have hurt us. Also, is Thames the right hitting coach? Seems like we did better with Cockrell.
I know I'm going to get slammed with responses of how many runs we produced and how we set the record for homers. I just think maybe with the talent we had perhaps we underperformed from a hitting perspective.
Bingo, the “it’s not my money” argument is so stupid. It’s about the teams lack of ability to acquire other talent.
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tend to be two separate things. Patient hitters work the count; contact hitters tend to swing early and are more apt to swing at a close pitch than take it. The Yankees have a number of guys who rank among the league leaders in pitches per AB. Judge is a very patient hitter, while Andujar is a contact hitter.
Thanks for the clarification.
I'm talking about guys who adjust their swings on difficult pitches to make sure they stay alive in a count. Yes, I want patient hitters who work the count, but I also don't think we need so many guys who swing their hardest every time.
I saw several hitters this postseason adjust their swing to make sure to stay alive, almost always fouling off the ball but staying alive. It seems like the Yankees don't do a lot of that.
I'm also wondering about how much losing Gary Denbo might have hurt us. Also, is Thames the right hitting coach? Seems like we did better with Cockrell.
I know I'm going to get slammed with responses of how many runs we produced and how we set the record for homers. I just think maybe with the talent we had perhaps we underperformed from a hitting perspective.
I get what you're saying and I'm definitely not criticizing. Andujar and Torres will hopefully provide a little more of that dimension; they have different approaches, but neither would be confused for a three-outcome bat. Walker provided some of that too. Stanton and Judge aren't going anywhere and they certainly bring that dynamic, and this year Sanchez did too. But they may need to ensure that the people around them in the lineup are more complete hitters. It'll be interesting to see what sorts of smaller moves they make. They could bring back Cutch or Walker, even a Daniel Murphy, to be a 300-400 AB guy; a pinch hitter, injury insurance and a lineup change of pace. They could also make a move for Harper or Machado, they certainly have the money.
I agree 100% The problem is,Hal wants the payroll down. He's the reason Verlander isn't a Yankee & Sonny Gray is. Even the Stanton deal was Cashman promising a salary push when adding Stanton (Castro plus moving Headley w/Mitchell to Padres). I'm interested to see how this FA off season pans out. Yanks will be under so will Hal allow Cashman to pursue big name FAs w/o a money concerns or will he tell him he wants the Yankee salary at a certain number & it's up to Cashman to keep it there? Unfortunately,I think it's the latter so I think the big signing of the off season will be Corbin.
I don't know how they do it, but Houston works miracles with pitchers.
Opportunity cost. Assuming a budget of around $200 mil going forward, and understanding that the currently cost-controlled guys like Sevy, Judge and Sanchez will eventually need to get paid, is committing that $22 mil or whatever of luxury tax money to Stanton a wise allocation of resources? I think over the next four or five years it will be, but it has the potential to go south quickly if he sustains an injury or if the bat speed slows such that .260-.280 becomes .210-.230.