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5 Weeks in — How Do You Feel about Drafting Saquon Barkley?

KyleY : 10/10/2018 2:50 pm
This is not meant to be a leading question. I'm genuinely curious.

With the benefit of a little hindsight, if we could draft again, who would you use that #2 pick on?
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Barkley  
giants#1 : 10/10/2018 2:52 pm : link
He looks special, and the available QBs haven't impressed*.


*obviously a long way to go
There is no doubt in my mind that he is a special player.  
Keith : 10/10/2018 2:52 pm : link
Guys like him don't come around too often.

Knowing what we know now, I'd call Cle about trading up to #1 and taking Mayfield. I'd be fine taking Darnold at #2 and I'd be fine dropping back a few picks and taking Rosen/Allen.

In conclusion, I don't feel any better about our QB situation now.
The QB's haven't impressed?  
Keith : 10/10/2018 2:52 pm : link
I beg to differ.
FAN  
GmeninPSL : 10/10/2018 2:54 pm : link
TASTIC!!!!!!!!
He's fantastic and it was absolutely the right pick  
RobCarpenter : 10/10/2018 2:54 pm : link
He's everything I expected from watching him at Penn State. His agility, balance, and explosiveness are awesome.

Now if the OL could keep people off of him when he gets a handoff, who knows what he could accomplish.
the only one that has kind of impressed me is baker  
GMAN4LIFE : 10/10/2018 2:56 pm : link
other than that, anyone would be fucked behind this line. then we would be here saying its a bust pick.
Right now? LOVE IT.  
x meadowlander : 10/10/2018 2:59 pm : link
Time will tell if it was the correct move.

I still can't believe the Browns passed on him. One of the top QB's would've still been there in the 5 spot.
he'll look way better when they draft  
Giantsfan79 : 10/10/2018 2:59 pm : link
Jonah Williams with their 1st round pick.
I wanted Darnold  
Jay on the Island : 10/10/2018 3:01 pm : link
but Barkley has won me over. I am hoping the Giants get Justin Herbert in the draft next season and come away with Ja'Wuan James in free agency for RT. They could then draft a guard on day 2 to compete with Omameh for the starting job and Barkley will become the best back in football.
Love the player  
GiantNatty : 10/10/2018 3:02 pm : link
hate the pick.
Hope he has a long career here  
rocco8112 : 10/10/2018 3:02 pm : link
He looks very good. Hopefully before his prime is done the Giants will build an o line that is at least in the bottom third of the league instead of rock bottom.

Looks like a special player.
I feel fine.  
Britt in VA : 10/10/2018 3:03 pm : link
Happy even.
RE: Barkley  
widmerseyebrow : 10/10/2018 3:04 pm : link
In comment 14117821 giants#1 said:
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He looks special, and the available QBs haven't impressed*.


*obviously a long way to go


Agreed.

Allen looks like a guy destined for many sacks, low completion percentages, turnovers, and eventual injury.

The other two haven't jumped off the screen in any meaningful way. They have plenty of football ahead of them, but I don't see anything that distinguishes them from the next two crops of high first round quarterbacks.
To me its more clear..  
Simpleman in Tx : 10/10/2018 3:04 pm : link
now that it was the best choice. I wanted Barkley but also Mayfield. I would've hated the Giants if I saw SB lighting up the stat boards and highlight reels every week while we have a rookie qb sitting on the bench behind Eli. You dont pass on generational talent at a key postion.
He looks like a really talented player  
Go Terps : 10/10/2018 3:05 pm : link
Lots to like. But I think it was the wrong pick.

By the time we're ready to compete who the hell knows what kind of player he'll be after the wear and tear.

Drafting him, paying Beckham, and moving forward with Eli were signs of a front office incapable of making on honest and difficult assessment of where this team actually is.
We'll be just fine  
JonC : 10/10/2018 3:07 pm : link
with SB and Herbert.
Pick still looks good to me.  
TMS : 10/10/2018 3:11 pm : link
ELi and SB have both been held back by our awful OL plus confusion and play calling on offense. We will get it together soon I am hoping. Anyone expecting a quick start with this many new faces and rebuilding changes was kidding themselves. We could easily be 3/2 now with a few more plays by the offense. MO
I LOVE the player  
Scyber : 10/10/2018 3:12 pm : link
But I still think the value of a RB at #2 is questionable. IMO getting a QB, OL, or DL at that spot provides a much better value.


Given that no QB could do better  
VinegarPeppers : 10/10/2018 3:12 pm : link
...behind this OL and that Barkley has only been hampered by it, I am happy with what ONLY a player like Saquon could get running behind it.

This OL might have created another David Carr out of any of those QBs.
Good player,  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/10/2018 3:14 pm : link
but all of the QB's already have flashed at least something in their first 5 games of their career with less than stellar supporting casts, as well. Definitely don't feel any better than last season about our current QB/offensive situation, either.
He's been the best player to watch  
B in ALB : 10/10/2018 3:18 pm : link
on the team so far. And he's probably right there in terms of talent with Beckham already.
RE: We'll be just fine  
lax counsel : 10/10/2018 3:20 pm : link
In comment 14117864 JonC said:
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with SB and Herbert.


Giants won't be the only team in on Herbert, if they even like him.
Nice player  
HomerJones45 : 10/10/2018 3:23 pm : link
probably could have gone 1-4 without him.
Still don't like the pick  
jcn56 : 10/10/2018 3:24 pm : link
He's shown promise, but I think people are still extending their hope into reality. He's flashed, and obviously the potential is there, but so far the offensive ineptitude overall has impacted Barkley as well and the production doesn't match his cost so far.

Meanwhile, who knows how long Eli has left, or how long it will take to rebuild the OL. Could easily waste the last year or two of Eli's career, the first year or two of SB's career, and the first couple of years of OBJ's big contract on a luxury that didn't resolve the offensive issues.
RE: RE: We'll be just fine  
JonC : 10/10/2018 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14117893 lax counsel said:
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In comment 14117864 JonC said:


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with SB and Herbert.



Giants won't be the only team in on Herbert, if they even like him.


We're looking good for the #1 overall pick.
Really like it.  
Beezer : 10/10/2018 3:24 pm : link
.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/10/2018 3:25 pm : link
HOFer talent if healthy.
Barkley  
Steve in Greenwich : 10/10/2018 3:26 pm : link
is everything he was advertised as, but still would rather have gone Rosen/Darnold and even Denzel Ward (extreme hindsight on that one as he wasn't on the radar, but he has drastically made a difference on that Browns team more than anyone else). Right now we're living proof that pro bowl running backs can easily be wasted on bad teams.
Very, very excited...  
Chris684 : 10/10/2018 3:33 pm : link
Best player available in the whole draft.

We got him at #2.
Thrilled,  
Big Blue '56 : 10/10/2018 3:36 pm : link
but only 5 games. Not even a small sample size
God wanted the Giants to be 1-4.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/10/2018 3:39 pm : link
.
Love it...  
JCin332 : 10/10/2018 3:39 pm : link
Use next off season to upgrade OL and things are looking up...
Too soon  
Thegratefulhead : 10/10/2018 3:44 pm : link
I did not like Darnold, still do not. I liked Mayfield and Rosen. Mayfield was gone. If we were going to draft a QB at 2, it would have likely been Darnold, so if you force me to choose right this moment, I am happy. If you told me we could have traded down for extra picks, that would have been my choice. If we could have gotten Rosen, Michel and Hernandez, sign me up for that.
Wait till he  
Fish : 10/10/2018 3:45 pm : link
Starts really seeing the holes. If you look at previous games he has missed a few. Awesome pick for us!
The only QB  
mdthedream : 10/10/2018 3:48 pm : link
I liked was Mayfield and he was gone. I also was afraid of his off field issues so that said I was and still am very happy. Who know Kyle might be better than the rest of the Qbs taken in the first round.
Who knew  
Chris684 : 10/10/2018 3:49 pm : link
Gettleman ruffled so many feathers with his throw away "touched by the hand of God" comment.

Meanwhile, Dave in Hoboken has trouble keeping it in his pants when he watches Sam Darnold play.

The irony.
RE: Very, very excited...  
jcn56 : 10/10/2018 3:50 pm : link
In comment 14117911 Chris684 said:
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Best player available in the whole draft.

We got him at #2.


Based on what they've both done so far, do you believe Barkley's better than Mayfield?

And I realize we had no shot at Mayfield, but you did say best...
BPA with high picks all the time  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/10/2018 3:50 pm : link
Exceptional players are rare, can't limit your chance to acquire them narrowing your search to need. There's several "ordinary" QB prospects every year, and nowadays QB hell is less of a worry.
I didn’t want him  
WillVAB : 10/10/2018 3:52 pm : link
But I’m happy with the pick. Exceptional player, very exciting to watch.
perfectly fine  
blueblood : 10/10/2018 3:53 pm : link
Barkley was the consensus best player in the draft on pretty much everyone's lips. He has talent at his position that hasnt been seen in while. He is a weapon that can take it to the house on any given play.

Fix the OL. Give him some running lanes.

no problem with the pick.
Same as I felt in April  
Anakim : 10/10/2018 3:54 pm : link
Wanted him then, happy with him now.


Saquon yesterday, Saquon today, and Saquon tomorrow
RE: Who knew  
blueblood : 10/10/2018 3:54 pm : link
In comment 14117936 Chris684 said:
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Gettleman ruffled so many feathers with his throw away "touched by the hand of God" comment.

Meanwhile, Dave in Hoboken has trouble keeping it in his pants when he watches Sam Darnold play.

The irony.


people make such a big deal about that comment..

all he said was that he has rare God given talent..

period..
He's a fantastic player  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/10/2018 3:55 pm : link
always was going to be one.

I just don't know when we will have a real good team around him.
My overwhelming preference was QB at #2...  
M.S. : 10/10/2018 3:55 pm : link

...but Saquon Barkley is even better than advertised!

He's the greatest show on two wheels, and he's driving behind one fucked up offensive line.

He is also mature and full of wisdom beyond his years, and if we are very, very lucky, which I doubt, some of his character will some how, some way rub off on our resident, semi-nut job OBJ.
RE: BPA with high picks all the time  
Keith : 10/10/2018 3:57 pm : link
In comment 14117941 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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Exceptional players are rare, can't limit your chance to acquire them narrowing your search to need. There's several "ordinary" QB prospects every year, and nowadays QB hell is less of a worry.


Hypothetical. We have the #1 pick next year. The clear cut best player is a WR and he's an elite talent. Do you take him? BPA
RE: RE: BPA with high picks all the time  
Big Blue '56 : 10/10/2018 4:08 pm : link
In comment 14117958 Keith said:
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In comment 14117941 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


Quote:


Exceptional players are rare, can't limit your chance to acquire them narrowing your search to need. There's several "ordinary" QB prospects every year, and nowadays QB hell is less of a worry.



Hypothetical. We have the #1 pick next year. The clear cut best player is a WR and he's an elite talent. Do you take him? BPA


Unless there is a franchise player there at another position, sure, I eould
would  
Big Blue '56 : 10/10/2018 4:08 pm : link
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56  
Keith : 10/10/2018 4:09 pm : link
are you going off of hte assumption that OBJ will be our new QB?
like I did right before and after the draft...  
Dan in the Springs : 10/10/2018 4:10 pm : link
hoping he fell to us before, because I thought he was an outstanding talent, and thrilled that the Giants took him, because I knew it meant tons of exhilarating moments for me as a Giants fan.

Nothing has changed.
Really good player...  
bw in dc : 10/10/2018 4:11 pm : link
as expected.

But a total luxury pick that we didn't have the luxury of using.

So, I still stand firm - a wasted pick based on current and future ROI value.
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