When word broke Monday that the Giants were going to trade or release tackle Ereck Flowers, the trade option wasn’t taken too seriously given the $1.69 million Flowers was still set to make this season under the terms of his rookie deal with the Giants.
That proved to be the right reaction as Flowers wound up on the waiver wire Tuesday. That contract would have moved to any team that claimed him off of waivers, so there’s equally little surprise to hear multiple reports that Flowers cleared waivers on Wednesday.
At a lower price, there is reportedly interest in his services. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports multiple teams have reached out to Flowers and that he is set to visit the Jaguars on Thursday.
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Or it could also mean that Jacksonville is desperate because their starting LT is out for the season and his replacement is also injured.
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It will just kill the Coughlin was wrongfully fired brigade who argue he had no say in personnel decisions and was an innocent victim of Reese & Ross’ negligence
Or it could also mean that Jacksonville is desperate because their starting LT is out for the season and his replacement is also injured.
Don't make Les do mental gymnastics. He has his narrative that he is hoping for reality to fit.
They're playing their 3rd string LT, people are so dumb lol
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It will just kill the Coughlin was wrongfully fired brigade who argue he had no say in personnel decisions and was an innocent victim of Reese & Ross’ negligence
Or it could also mean that Jacksonville is desperate because their starting LT is out for the season and his replacement is also injured.
He doesn't have to sign, they're already in spin mode.
NO WAIT, HE THOUGHT IT WAS THE OTHER ERECK FLOWERS!
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In comment 14118076 Les in TO said:
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It will just kill the Coughlin was wrongfully fired brigade who argue he had no say in personnel decisions and was an innocent victim of Reese & Ross’ negligence
Or it could also mean that Jacksonville is desperate because their starting LT is out for the season and his replacement is also injured.
there are other tackles available. If Coughlin felt he was so objectionable he wouldn’t bring him in
Since you are up for the mental gymnastics, please list 5 LOT that are available. I'm glad that DG cut bait with Flowers. But despite my opinion, he actually has starting LOT experience, is healthy, and is available. If Jax signs him, don't mistake it as some endorsement by Coughlin for a former player. But rather taking a flyer on a player with experience that might serve in the short term as adequate until others are healthy and then as a back-up swing tackle.
That's the first I have ever heard of that. I think that's what BBI was spinning. However, at the time when Mac got hired, he got to hire some of his own position coaches.
That's the first I have ever heard of that. I think that's what BBI was spinning. However, at the time when Mac got hired, he got to hire some of his own position coaches.
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because Flowers supposedly didn't like Flaherty.
That's the first I have ever heard of that. I think that's what BBI was spinning. However, at the time when Mac got hired, he got to hire some of his own position coaches.
It was rumored then, and there was an article confirming this week in the press.
They all absolutely had a part in this epic failure of a team that we had last year. Some of the stench is still here, but its all being gutted now.
From three weeks ago...
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because Flowers supposedly didn't like Flaherty.
That's the first I have ever heard of that. I think that's what BBI was spinning. However, at the time when Mac got hired, he got to hire some of his own position coaches.
It was rumored then, and there was an article confirming this week in the press.
Please provide the click bait article please.
The reporters are feeding the Flower haters exactly what they want to hear.
Hang on - you claimed they fired Flaherty because Flowers didn't like him, and then you copied this:
'...could not get through' doesn't equal 'doesn't get along with'. It meant he couldn't get Flowers to do his job.
And guess what? Flaherty as the OL coach, as a guy with a lot of experience, would have had a lot of say in the players signed/drafted to the OL. So, unlike the 'conspiracy theory' that you guys have been repeatedly spewing, that poor ole TC/Flaherty were the victims of Reese and Ross' inability to get them talent, it's a hell of a lot more likely that they had plenty of input, and that when the results weren't positive they were held accountable first.
We also had several other offensive lineman that we failed to develop during his time here. Reese sure as hell was to blame for picking them, but there was a ton of talk here that we weren't developing any players at the same time.
Solari was universally like on the board. Everyone thought it was a great pickup and the line would surely turn around under him.
There are players that are labeled coach killers for a reason. Flowers is one of them.
Exercise in futility.
Exercise in futility.
So couldn't get through to someone means doesn't like or hated now?
Exercise in futility.
So couldn't get through to someone means doesn't like or hated now?
However, that article came out three weeks ago, three years after the fact.
Connect the dots. Whatever. You can twist it or turn it how you want. Flaherty was largely fired because of Flowers. However you want to word it, that's what happened.
Sure sounds like Coughlin was all in. Interesting that Flaherty was at his Miami work out.
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I said didn't like. Didn't like, hated, couldn't get through to, either way.... The result was the same.
Exercise in futility.
So couldn't get through to someone means doesn't like or hated now?
Personally, no, I dont think it does. Just saying.
You are assuming that facts will actually have an effect on a strongly held belief--which seems dubious, especially in regard to Coughlin
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Pat Flaherty, the offensive line coach for two Giants Super Bowl-winning teams, was fired mostly because he could not get through to Flowers, which was a disgrace and sent an awful message.
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Nothing in that article suggests Flowers did not like Flaherty. Even though, from most accounts, Ereck Flowers only seemed to like Bobby Hart.
I thought de-flowering always felt great???
Who knows the real story? As Diver mentioned above, and as an insider reported at the time, they were clashing.
Three years later "couldn't get through to" is a polite thing to say, but he was fired over it nonetheless.
had one of the absolute worst units in the league despite the GM giving him players drafted very highly.
But tosay that Flaherty wasfired because he didnt get along with Flowers is just hyperbole at its finest.
Who knows the real story? As Diver mentioned above, and as an insider reported at the time, they were clashing.
Three years later "couldn't get through to" is a polite thing to say, but he was fired over it nonetheless.
Lol, my man, that is an absolutely PREPOSTEROUS, summation of what probably happened. But youre entitled to think that.
I didn't see any of that - can you provide a link?
If not, I'm going to call Britt's 'conspiracy theory'. Seems to be a popular card to play these days.
Who knows the real story? As Diver mentioned above, and as an insider reported at the time, they were clashing.
Three years later "couldn't get through to" is a polite thing to say, but he was fired over it nonetheless.
Not getting through is simply saying he wasn't perceived to be getting his job done. With his track record with developing other players it was a fair assessment at the time.
20/20 hindsight Reese was terrible at picking late round o-line talent.
Still, Solari was welcomed with open arms when he was hired. BBI loved the hire.