I think it all comes down to night. If the Giants can win tonight beating the Eagles the defending Super bowl champs who have owned the Giants for a decade the Division is there for the taking.
My keys to the game are IMHO our O line at least holding their own with the Eagles front seven. Stick with the run all night at least 25 attempts and plat-action.
Biggest factor is Eli. Will Eli revert to the deer in the head lights fumbling turn over machine or LEAD this team to a victory!
On D Shut down their second rate back up Running back lead running game. Some how cover TE Zack Ertiz.
Time for the Giants to take control of their season, man up Beat the crap out of the Eagles in the trenches!!!
I think I need a drink already....
With the Knicks and Rangers, Lord knows I need a winner
...YES!
This team is not good. They have some good players, but they are not a good team.
typically no. But a win tonight makes things interesting as the rest of the division really isnt good.
This is a bad team, in a bad division.
They are going to be 1-1 after tonight!
Your arguments are intellectually lazy.
A dropped sheppard pass, and a punt fake and a muffed punt away from being 3-2, against a hard schedule on a team with a brand new coach, scheme, offensive line, defensive scheme etc and with the easiest remaining schedule.
I am not sure if you predicted the Giants would be bad, I assume you did. Newsdlash buddy, that prediction was not accurate so far, despite what you think.
You still think Philly is the best team? In all honesty, irregardless of our team - I have not been impressed with anything they have done. Their DL is formidable, but nothing else really stands out.
That means they would have to go 8-1 or at worst 7-2 the rest of the way.
It ain't happnin.
No its not accurate, sorry. You didn't account for 62 yard kicks, punt fakes, muffed punts, dropped passes, etc.
Or was that the basis of your prediction?
If its not, then since these games have turned on one or two plays, than clearly you were wrong.
If they win tonight they will win the division.
The Eagles are all of a sudden a bad team? The defending Super Bowl Champions? I don't like the Eagles, but they lost to a very good Minnesota team by 2 points, to the Titans in Nashville by 3 points, and to Fitzmagic and the Bucs in Tampa by one score without Wentz.
The Eagles still have one of the best young QBs in the NFL, still a very good defense, there are not a bad team. It is far more likely that the Eagles will still finish 10-6 or better than it is the Giants will sniff 7 wins.
times are a-changin
Sean Peyton disagrees....hence if fake punt in a game that was about to get away from him.
A fake punt that was obvious I might add.
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Giants may or may not be good, especially right now, but lets not overreact and parade around the 2018 Eagles or Redskins. They aren't good either.
The Eagles are all of a sudden a bad team? The defending Super Bowl Champions? I don't like the Eagles, but they lost to a very good Minnesota team by 2 points, to the Titans in Nashville by 3 points, and to Fitzmagic and the Bucs in Tampa by one score without Wentz.
The Eagles still have one of the best young QBs in the NFL, still a very good defense, there are not a bad team. It is far more likely that the Eagles will still finish 10-6 or better than it is the Giants will sniff 7 wins.
tennesse's offense is bad.
They were dominated by Minny for the majority of the game.
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So far it is accurate. What was your prior handle?
No its not accurate, sorry. You didn't account for 62 yard kicks, punt fakes, muffed punts, dropped passes, etc.
Or was that the basis of your prediction?
If its not, then since these games have turned on one or two plays, than clearly you were wrong.
If they win tonight they will win the division.
I said before the season began this looked like a 6-win team to me.
Right now, this looks like a team that will win fewer than 6. Beyond that, you're entitled to be optimistic.
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All four teams have their issues and aren't playing well at the moment, but the Giants have the added ability of beating themselves until proven otherwise.
times are a-changin
Not on the field yet.
Would have been better to be 2-3 going into tonight but 1 - 4 is must win.
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So far it is accurate. What was your prior handle?
No its not accurate, sorry. You didn't account for 62 yard kicks, punt fakes, muffed punts, dropped passes, etc.
Or was that the basis of your prediction?
If its not, then since these games have turned on one or two plays, than clearly you were wrong.
If they win tonight they will win the division.
I said before the season began this looked like a 6-win team to me.
Right now, this looks like a team that will win fewer than 6. Beyond that, you're entitled to be optimistic.
They'll have six wins after TB. ANd your entitlted to your opinion. Hope Im right!
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Giants may or may not be good, especially right now, but lets not overreact and parade around the 2018 Eagles or Redskins. They aren't good either.
The Eagles are all of a sudden a bad team? The defending Super Bowl Champions? I don't like the Eagles, but they lost to a very good Minnesota team by 2 points, to the Titans in Nashville by 3 points, and to Fitzmagic and the Bucs in Tampa by one score without Wentz.
The Eagles still have one of the best young QBs in the NFL, still a very good defense, there are not a bad team. It is far more likely that the Eagles will still finish 10-6 or better than it is the Giants will sniff 7 wins.
tennesse's offense is bad.
They were dominated by Minny for the majority of the game.
They are adjusting to having the target on their back, as Super Bowl teams need to do. But they have a great head coach over there and Wentz is just not going to let them be a losing team. I'd bet on Wentz turning it around very quickly. After they beat the Giants tonight, they are 3-3 and the narrative starts to change.
That means they would have to go 8-1 or at worst 7-2 the rest of the way.
It ain't happnin.
8-8 could take the division this year
But, the Giants are the poster boys for crapping the bed after a Super Bowl season.
1987 (the non-replacement games) and 1991 were just plain ugly.
Still an uphill fight with a win, but we'd be technically ahead of the super bowl champs if that happened, so hope would be alive.
I'd be looking more for signs along lines of is PS the right guy for the job then I would be eying division title and playoffs.
The Eagles are all of a sudden a bad team? The defending Super Bowl Champions? I don't like the Eagles, but they lost to a very good Minnesota team by 2 points, to the Titans in Nashville by 3 points, and to Fitzmagic and the Bucs in Tampa by one score without Wentz.
The Eagles could very easily be 0-5 right now. They barely squeaked by the Falcons and Colts in games where the opponent had the ball inside the ten yard line at the end of the game. FWIW I thought they were a team that played wayyyyy over their heads last year and expected a big fall.
Still much better than the Giants, of course, but that ain't saying much.
Not saying Giants won't lose. Just saying Philly aren't good either.
I dont know if they have plenty of talent outside their front 4. Wentz is still struggling with movement and their OL has taken a huge step backwards. Jeffrey is a very good WR, but I like Jenkins matching up with him. Ertz should be the main focus for us. They have average RBs.
And their secondary is awful. I know its easier said than done, but contain their front 4 and you can put a lot of points on the board against them. With their OL struggling, I dont see the dominating force that took them to a title last year.
I got you though.
Philly's biggest strength is our weakness. Dl vs. OL. The problem is our DL good enough to take advantage of their worsen OL? Last year Philly probably had one of the 3 best OLs in football. This year, its been near the bottom.
A win against them is gonaa be a huge step forward for this team. Sometimes all it takes is a win to change things. We have probably already played the toughest teams on our schedule already. Look at who we have left...
5 division games
TB
Atl
SF
Tenn
Indy
Chicago
Chicago is probably the best team left on the schedule. There are winnable games left. It starts tonight.
GET IT DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
it starts tonight buddy, it starts tonight.
If they go 1-5, then Gettlemen/Shurmur starts looking like a disaster.
Think about how sad your first sentence is. We have been beaten into a fog of low expectations.