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Report: Eli Manning is losing the Giants locker room.

yankeeslover : 10/11/2018 7:49 pm
And so it begins.... sorry if this was discussed.
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Like an injured horse,  
RottenApple : 10/11/2018 9:09 pm : link
It’s time to put Eli down; he’s an embarrassment at this point.
I can only imagine what his teammates think.  
Keith : 10/11/2018 9:11 pm : link
Must be very frustrating. Sad to see it end like this.
John Mara wanted Eli to play this year  
joe48 : 10/11/2018 9:12 pm : link
I hope he is watching
RE: RE: Whether it is true or not..  
EricJ : 10/11/2018 9:13 pm : link
In comment 14119666 BigBlue4You09 said:
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(and I dont believe it is true)... this is all due to OBJ's comments.

The guy was doing SO WELL so far this season. Keeping his mouth shut, showing up for all of the practices even before he got his new contract. Doing the right things.



So what you don’t believe to be true you’re blaming on OBJ. Lol got it. So because he spoke to the media the team decided to turn on Eli? Yeah no, that’s not how it works unless they all believed it prior which is not the case.

Yawn, nothing to see here


I am not surprised that you dont get it. simple minds...
With players like these  
FStubbs : 10/11/2018 9:13 pm : link
Who cares if you lose them?
Maybe Odell can play Qb,  
RottenApple : 10/11/2018 9:14 pm : link
Throw to himself. Manning is completely useless at this point.
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arcarsenal : 10/11/2018 9:16 pm : link
Hard to blame them.

This is absolutely pathetic offense.
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Sean : 10/11/2018 9:18 pm : link
In comment 14120381 arcarsenal said:
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Hard to blame them.

This is absolutely pathetic offense.


Be careful what you say arc. FMiC will come with the pitchfork and claim you are a shitty fan.

Enough is enough.
He is finally losing me  
BlueHurricane : 10/11/2018 9:20 pm : link
Defend him to the end but this is getting tough.
Eli  
chuckydee9 : 10/11/2018 9:22 pm : link
Has lost my support.. he brings nothing help the Giants.. even his best games are pretty pedestrian.. he fumbles half the times he is touched.. he doesn't move in the pocket.. any sign of Pressure and he sits down.. it's too easy for DL..
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arcarsenal : 10/11/2018 9:26 pm : link
He's just not hanging in the pocket and looking downfield the way he used to. People want to blame the OL for everything and there's some blame to be thrown that way for sure - but this isn't all poor pass pro.

Eli is playing safe game-manager football and is getting paid a ton of money for it.

He's done.

Most people are finally starting to see it - unfortunately some are just going to go down with the ship.

Barkley is saving his bacon right now.
Eli Island OL = recipe for disaster  
joe48 : 10/11/2018 9:33 pm : link
Coaches need to get the rookie ready after the break.
Defense  
B in ALB : 10/11/2018 9:38 pm : link
Terrible. Absolutely terrible.
RE: Defense  
dep026 : 10/11/2018 9:38 pm : link
In comment 14120727 B in ALB said:
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Terrible. Absolutely terrible.


Has been all year.
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dep026 : 10/11/2018 9:39 pm : link
In comment 14120381 arcarsenal said:
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Hard to blame them.

This is absolutely pathetic offense.


What does the offense have to do with the defense being atrocious this year?
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arcarsenal : 10/11/2018 9:42 pm : link
In comment 14120756 dep026 said:
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In comment 14120381 arcarsenal said:


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Hard to blame them.

This is absolutely pathetic offense.



What does the offense have to do with the defense being atrocious this year?


Did our defense force us to settle for field goals in the red zone? We had a first and goal from inside the 5 and still couldn't score.

Maybe you can start a new rah-rah thread about how we're going to turn this around and come back after the half!

This football team sucks. Offensively, defensively. It's the same crap we've been watching for a long time now. Nothing is changing.
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arcarsenal : 10/11/2018 9:43 pm : link
0-7 on 3rd down. Haven't converted a 3rd down in a game and a half now. But lets shift all of the focus to the defense now because we want to avoid blaming ANYTHING on Eli.
Dep building his defense  
Keith : 10/11/2018 9:45 pm : link
for the week. So far....play calling, defense, obj.
Imagine being the defense and knowing  
Keith : 10/11/2018 9:46 pm : link
You have a zero margin for error and watching the offense go 17 yards and out all night. Hard to blame them when the offense is doing this.
RE: Dep building his defense  
arcarsenal : 10/11/2018 9:46 pm : link
In comment 14120883 Keith said:
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for the week. So far....play calling, defense, obj.


Yup. Always everything else. The OL, the defense, the ST's.. everyone but Eli. It can't possibly be him.

0-14 on our last 14 3rd downs is totally the defenses fault.
RE: Dep building his defense  
dep026 : 10/11/2018 9:47 pm : link
In comment 14120883 Keith said:
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for the week. So far....play calling, defense, obj.


Keith on the rag for 3 months straight.
RE: RE: Dep building his defense  
dep026 : 10/11/2018 9:47 pm : link
In comment 14120900 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14120883 Keith said:


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for the week. So far....play calling, defense, obj.



Yup. Always everything else. The OL, the defense, the ST's.. everyone but Eli. It can't possibly be him.

0-14 on our last 14 3rd downs is totally the defenses fault.


So we should onyl critque one player and not the ineptitude of everyone else? Pathetic fans you guys are.
Yes, the giants piss me off. Sorry.  
Keith : 10/11/2018 9:48 pm : link
I just call it like I see it bud.
RE: Imagine being the defense and knowing  
dep026 : 10/11/2018 9:48 pm : link
In comment 14120898 Keith said:
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You have a zero margin for error and watching the offense go 17 yards and out all night. Hard to blame them when the offense is doing this.


Look at the excuses for the defense. They dont have to do their job because someone else is playing poorly.
Our defense sucks because the offense sucks and  
jgambrosio : 10/11/2018 9:48 pm : link
Puts us in god awful situations. It's also on the field way too much because we don't know how to sustain a drive. Eli's gameplay is the biggest reason for all of this.
RE: Yes, the giants piss me off. Sorry.  
dep026 : 10/11/2018 9:49 pm : link
In comment 14120916 Keith said:
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I just call it like I see it bud.


Did I ONCE say Eli has played well tonight. Or you creating a narrative because your pissed off.
They rehash Ranaan’s article  
Bill L : 10/11/2018 9:49 pm : link
And you can see that they excerpts Ranaan’s unethical lie that people were fired for criticizing Manning. Unconscionable unprofessionalism.
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arcarsenal : 10/11/2018 9:53 pm : link
Pathetic fans because we're able to objectively see that the QB is a big part of this problem?

Okie dokie. Whatever makes ya feel better.

6 points at halftime. Can't even score from inside the 5 on a first and goal. If we had even converted one of those FG's into TD's, the game wouldn't even be totally out of reach. But because we can't cash in and put the ball in the endzone, this is what happens.

The defense hasn't even been that awful before tonight. We were slightly below average. This isn't the 2015 defense that was historically poor.

We had the 3rd fewest pass TD's against us and were 8th in pass yards against coming into tonight.

I'm not under any illusions about what this defense is, but when is it okay to think that a lot of the problems offensively are the QB? How much worse does this have to get?

We can pay someone far less to throw bubble screens and dumpoffs all night.
Eli is a non-playoff QB  
allstarjim : 10/11/2018 9:53 pm : link
At this point. Really is amazing some people still are hanging on to an alternate version of reality.
Yep Bill and douchbags like kmed and his ilk just parrot  
JCin332 : 10/11/2018 9:54 pm : link
the bullshit...
I’m a douchebag because I have a different opinion than you?  
Keith : 10/11/2018 9:55 pm : link
Please grow up child. In life, you will come across people that have a different opinion, doesn’t make them douchebags.
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dep026 : 10/11/2018 9:55 pm : link
In comment 14120983 arcarsenal said:
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Pathetic fans because we're able to objectively see that the QB is a big part of this problem?

Okie dokie. Whatever makes ya feel better.

6 points at halftime. Can't even score from inside the 5 on a first and goal. If we had even converted one of those FG's into TD's, the game wouldn't even be totally out of reach. But because we can't cash in and put the ball in the endzone, this is what happens.

The defense hasn't even been that awful before tonight. We were slightly below average. This isn't the 2015 defense that was historically poor.

We had the 3rd fewest pass TD's against us and were 8th in pass yards against coming into tonight.

I'm not under any illusions about what this defense is, but when is it okay to think that a lot of the problems offensively are the QB? How much worse does this have to get?

We can pay someone far less to throw bubble screens and dumpoffs all night.


I have said he is done and this would be his last year about a million fucking times. But I guess you and Keith get pleasure of calling me out because I point out that suckitude of others players.

Jesus fucking christ. The OL sucks. The defense sucks. Special teams sucks.

It ok to say other plays suck than Eli. Fucking shit already.
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arcarsenal : 10/11/2018 9:57 pm : link
I said in this very fucking thread that we have other issues. You just still can't handle people criticizing Eli.

I told you this morning this team sucked. You didn't listen.
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arcarsenal : 10/11/2018 9:57 pm : link
15 third downs in a row unconverted and counting...
Giants offense breaking  
Keith : 10/11/2018 9:58 pm : link
records? Can we go not convert every 3rd down the rest of the season?
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dep026 : 10/11/2018 9:59 pm : link
In comment 14121017 arcarsenal said:
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I said in this very fucking thread that we have other issues. You just still can't handle people criticizing Eli.

I told you this morning this team sucked. You didn't listen.


WTF are you talking about. You and Keith called me out from another thread cause I am making excuses for Eli. Bullshit arc. Grow the fuck up already.

Saying other suck isnt making an excuse for Eli. Its the truth.
RE: How the hell is anyone pro Eli  
montanagiant : 10/11/2018 10:00 pm : link
In comment 14119842 bhill410 said:
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These days. I mean honestly half of this board is delusional

Says the guy who joined in 2007 but has only 3 posts to his name. So whose dupe are you?
RE: I’m a douchebag because I have a different opinion than you?  
JCin332 : 10/11/2018 10:01 pm : link
In comment 14121006 Keith said:
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Please grow up child. In life, you will come across people that have a different opinion, doesn’t make them douchebags.


Maybe douchbag is too strong a word but your obsession with them not picking a QB when anyone with any football knowledge can see they picked a generational player in SB is exhausting as is your long winded bullshit posts...
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Keith : 10/11/2018 10:01 pm : link
In comment 14121061 dep026 said:
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I said in this very fucking thread that we have other issues. You just still can't handle people criticizing Eli.

I told you this morning this team sucked. You didn't listen.



WTF are you talking about. You and Keith called me out from another thread cause I am making excuses for Eli. Bullshit arc. Grow the fuck up already.

Saying other suck isnt making an excuse for Eli. Its the truth.


Lol, it’s almost like you think your posts in the game thread are invisible. Let’s just move on and talk about Eli.
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dep026 : 10/11/2018 10:02 pm : link
In comment 14121090 Keith said:
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Lol, it’s almost like you think your posts in the game thread are invisible. Let’s just move on and talk about Eli.


Ok so pointing out that Eli Apple blows a coverage or Solder/Wheeler are getting abused is making excuses for Eli.

Stand and be proud of your effort Keith.
RE: Eli is a non-playoff QB  
joe48 : 10/11/2018 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14120985 allstarjim said:
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At this point. Really is amazing some people still are hanging on to an alternate version of reality.
How about non -NFL
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arcarsenal : 10/11/2018 10:06 pm : link
In comment 14121061 dep026 said:
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I said in this very fucking thread that we have other issues. You just still can't handle people criticizing Eli.

I told you this morning this team sucked. You didn't listen.



WTF are you talking about. You and Keith called me out from another thread cause I am making excuses for Eli. Bullshit arc. Grow the fuck up already.

Saying other suck isnt making an excuse for Eli. Its the truth.


I'm talking about your stupid fucking WERE GONNA WIN!!! thread you made earlier today.

You literally couldn't have been more wrong. Go back and read it again and realize how stupid it all sounds now.

I need to grow the fuck up because I think Eli is playing poorly and you can't handle people pointing that out?

I don't think I'm the one who needs to grow up...
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dep026 : 10/11/2018 10:08 pm : link
In comment 14121148 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14121017 arcarsenal said:


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I said in this very fucking thread that we have other issues. You just still can't handle people criticizing Eli.

I told you this morning this team sucked. You didn't listen.



WTF are you talking about. You and Keith called me out from another thread cause I am making excuses for Eli. Bullshit arc. Grow the fuck up already.

Saying other suck isnt making an excuse for Eli. Its the truth.



I'm talking about your stupid fucking WERE GONNA WIN!!! thread you made earlier today.

You literally couldn't have been more wrong. Go back and read it again and realize how stupid it all sounds now.

I need to grow the fuck up because I think Eli is playing poorly and you can't handle people pointing that out?

I don't think I'm the one who needs to grow up...


Jesus Christ Arc, are you that nieve. I started the same thread last week jsut for some fun. Look at some of the things I predicted that would happen.

If you cant see that, and need to be called out because you want to sound smart. I dont carewhat people say about Eli.

I am commenting on other players too. Sorry If I cant point out the suckitude of others without people bashing me for not saying something on Eli.

Again, grow up.
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arcarsenal : 10/11/2018 10:11 pm : link
You don't care what people say about Eli?

You were basically banned from this board because you couldn't control yourself.

I'm not the one who needs to grow up. Look in the mirror.
Dep  
Jimmy Googs : 10/11/2018 10:12 pm : link
go to bed...
We can all grow up.  
Keith : 10/11/2018 10:13 pm : link
Giants suck. It’s easier to take when you expected it.
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dep026 : 10/11/2018 10:14 pm : link
In comment 14121205 arcarsenal said:
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You don't care what people say about Eli?

You were basically banned from this board because you couldn't control yourself.

I'm not the one who needs to grow up. Look in the mirror.


I havent said anything about Eli and defending him all night. JFC. I am getting called out by other posters for pointing the suckiness of other players.

Stop drinking Arc. You are better than this.
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arcarsenal : 10/11/2018 10:17 pm : link
Haven't had a drink all night.

You're just getting very defensive over nothing.

I pointed out the pathetic play of the offense and you immediately tried to make it all about the defense. It's the same thing you always do - you want to deflect the blame as far away from #10 as possible. Maybe you don't even realize you're doing it anymore.

In any event - this back and forth is worthless. Enjoy the 2nd half.
This game  
Sammo85 : 10/11/2018 10:20 pm : link
Is not going to help matters if that report has any substance or truth to it.
RE: Our defense sucks because the offense sucks and  
NikkiMac : 10/12/2018 12:13 am : link
In comment 14120924 jgambrosio said:
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Puts us in god awful situations. It's also on the field way too much because we don't know how to sustain a drive. Eli's gameplay is the biggest reason for all of this.


I agree but also the defense has the worst first down stats the other team is averaging 7 yards a pop .....cant win like that like I said I agree Eli can’t play with this Oline but this defense sucks bud and it’s not the players really it’s combo of these players not getting this defense and not having the right kind of players for Bettchers defense imo
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