this is Elis team, the locker room has no room to talk though. OBJ had a HUGE drop and a HUGE blunder on punt return. the entire defense missed the tackle on carolinas TD last week.
our entire team has struggled, not just manning
(and I dont believe it is true)... this is all due to OBJ's comments.
The guy was doing SO WELL so far this season. Keeping his mouth shut, showing up for all of the practices even before he got his new contract. Doing the right things.
(and I dont believe it is true)... this is all due to OBJ's comments.
The guy was doing SO WELL so far this season. Keeping his mouth shut, showing up for all of the practices even before he got his new contract. Doing the right things.
Agree. Even I was starting to like the immature show off!
(and I dont believe it is true)... this is all due to OBJ's comments.
The guy was doing SO WELL so far this season. Keeping his mouth shut, showing up for all of the practices even before he got his new contract. Doing the right things.
So what you don’t believe to be true you’re blaming on OBJ. Lol got it. So because he spoke to the media the team decided to turn on Eli? Yeah no, that’s not how it works unless they all believed it prior which is not the case.
Knows Eli being viewed as the weak link on this offense besides Flowers has been the elephant in the room for years now. Beckham may never be a true leader on this team but one things for sure what he said last Sunday wasn’t the first time doubts of Eli have been said he just shouldn’t have said it.
They aggressively suggest that the Giants should have drafted a QB, even by selectively picking Barkley's stats to suggest that he's been a disappointment.
Shouldnt this article come out after a bad game from Eli where he doesn’t stretch the field? The media is hilarious. Jordan wrote better articles when he was at NJ.com. When he moved to espn, the quality of his writing about the team suffered. Much more mud slinging at espn. SImlar to the Daily News with Pat Leonard. Oh well.
(and I dont believe it is true)... this is all due to OBJ's comments.
The guy was doing SO WELL so far this season. Keeping his mouth shut, showing up for all of the practices even before he got his new contract. Doing the right things.
So what you don’t believe to be true you’re blaming on OBJ. Lol got it. So because he spoke to the media the team decided to turn on Eli? Yeah no, that’s not how it works unless they all believed it prior which is not the case.
Yawn, nothing to see here
I am not surprised that you dont get it. simple minds...
Has lost my support.. he brings nothing help the Giants.. even his best games are pretty pedestrian.. he fumbles half the times he is touched.. he doesn't move in the pocket.. any sign of Pressure and he sits down.. it's too easy for DL..
He's just not hanging in the pocket and looking downfield the way he used to. People want to blame the OL for everything and there's some blame to be thrown that way for sure - but this isn't all poor pass pro.
Eli is playing safe game-manager football and is getting paid a ton of money for it.
He's done.
Most people are finally starting to see it - unfortunately some are just going to go down with the ship.
0-7 on 3rd down. Haven't converted a 3rd down in a game and a half now. But lets shift all of the focus to the defense now because we want to avoid blaming ANYTHING on Eli.
Puts us in god awful situations. It's also on the field way too much because we don't know how to sustain a drive. Eli's gameplay is the biggest reason for all of this.
Pathetic fans because we're able to objectively see that the QB is a big part of this problem?
Okie dokie. Whatever makes ya feel better.
6 points at halftime. Can't even score from inside the 5 on a first and goal. If we had even converted one of those FG's into TD's, the game wouldn't even be totally out of reach. But because we can't cash in and put the ball in the endzone, this is what happens.
The defense hasn't even been that awful before tonight. We were slightly below average. This isn't the 2015 defense that was historically poor.
We had the 3rd fewest pass TD's against us and were 8th in pass yards against coming into tonight.
I'm not under any illusions about what this defense is, but when is it okay to think that a lot of the problems offensively are the QB? How much worse does this have to get?
We can pay someone far less to throw bubble screens and dumpoffs all night.
Pathetic fans because we're able to objectively see that the QB is a big part of this problem?
Okie dokie. Whatever makes ya feel better.
6 points at halftime. Can't even score from inside the 5 on a first and goal. If we had even converted one of those FG's into TD's, the game wouldn't even be totally out of reach. But because we can't cash in and put the ball in the endzone, this is what happens.
The defense hasn't even been that awful before tonight. We were slightly below average. This isn't the 2015 defense that was historically poor.
We had the 3rd fewest pass TD's against us and were 8th in pass yards against coming into tonight.
I'm not under any illusions about what this defense is, but when is it okay to think that a lot of the problems offensively are the QB? How much worse does this have to get?
We can pay someone far less to throw bubble screens and dumpoffs all night.
I have said he is done and this would be his last year about a million fucking times. But I guess you and Keith get pleasure of calling me out because I point out that suckitude of others players.
Jesus fucking christ. The OL sucks. The defense sucks. Special teams sucks.
It ok to say other plays suck than Eli. Fucking shit already.
Please grow up child. In life, you will come across people that have a different opinion, doesn’t make them douchebags.
Maybe douchbag is too strong a word but your obsession with them not picking a QB when anyone with any football knowledge can see they picked a generational player in SB is exhausting as is your long winded bullshit posts...
You were basically banned from this board because you couldn't control yourself.
I'm not the one who needs to grow up. Look in the mirror.
I havent said anything about Eli and defending him all night. JFC. I am getting called out by other posters for pointing the suckiness of other players.
I pointed out the pathetic play of the offense and you immediately tried to make it all about the defense. It's the same thing you always do - you want to deflect the blame as far away from #10 as possible. Maybe you don't even realize you're doing it anymore.
In any event - this back and forth is worthless. Enjoy the 2nd half.
Puts us in god awful situations. It's also on the field way too much because we don't know how to sustain a drive. Eli's gameplay is the biggest reason for all of this.
I agree but also the defense has the worst first down stats the other team is averaging 7 yards a pop .....cant win like that like I said I agree Eli can’t play with this Oline but this defense sucks bud and it’s not the players really it’s combo of these players not getting this defense and not having the right kind of players for Bettchers defense imo
our entire team has struggled, not just manning
The guy was doing SO WELL so far this season. Keeping his mouth shut, showing up for all of the practices even before he got his new contract. Doing the right things.
The guy was doing SO WELL so far this season. Keeping his mouth shut, showing up for all of the practices even before he got his new contract. Doing the right things.
Agree. Even I was starting to like the immature show off!
The guy was doing SO WELL so far this season. Keeping his mouth shut, showing up for all of the practices even before he got his new contract. Doing the right things.
So what you don’t believe to be true you’re blaming on OBJ. Lol got it. So because he spoke to the media the team decided to turn on Eli? Yeah no, that’s not how it works unless they all believed it prior which is not the case.
Yawn, nothing to see here
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(and I dont believe it is true)... this is all due to OBJ's comments.
The guy was doing SO WELL so far this season. Keeping his mouth shut, showing up for all of the practices even before he got his new contract. Doing the right things.
So what you don’t believe to be true you’re blaming on OBJ. Lol got it. So because he spoke to the media the team decided to turn on Eli? Yeah no, that’s not how it works unless they all believed it prior which is not the case.
Yawn, nothing to see here
I am not surprised that you dont get it. simple minds...
This is absolutely pathetic offense.
This is absolutely pathetic offense.
Be careful what you say arc. FMiC will come with the pitchfork and claim you are a shitty fan.
Enough is enough.
Eli is playing safe game-manager football and is getting paid a ton of money for it.
He's done.
Most people are finally starting to see it - unfortunately some are just going to go down with the ship.
Barkley is saving his bacon right now.
Has been all year.
This is absolutely pathetic offense.
What does the offense have to do with the defense being atrocious this year?
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Hard to blame them.
This is absolutely pathetic offense.
What does the offense have to do with the defense being atrocious this year?
Did our defense force us to settle for field goals in the red zone? We had a first and goal from inside the 5 and still couldn't score.
Maybe you can start a new rah-rah thread about how we're going to turn this around and come back after the half!
This football team sucks. Offensively, defensively. It's the same crap we've been watching for a long time now. Nothing is changing.
Yup. Always everything else. The OL, the defense, the ST's.. everyone but Eli. It can't possibly be him.
0-14 on our last 14 3rd downs is totally the defenses fault.
Keith on the rag for 3 months straight.
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for the week. So far....play calling, defense, obj.
Yup. Always everything else. The OL, the defense, the ST's.. everyone but Eli. It can't possibly be him.
0-14 on our last 14 3rd downs is totally the defenses fault.
So we should onyl critque one player and not the ineptitude of everyone else? Pathetic fans you guys are.
Look at the excuses for the defense. They dont have to do their job because someone else is playing poorly.
Did I ONCE say Eli has played well tonight. Or you creating a narrative because your pissed off.
Okie dokie. Whatever makes ya feel better.
6 points at halftime. Can't even score from inside the 5 on a first and goal. If we had even converted one of those FG's into TD's, the game wouldn't even be totally out of reach. But because we can't cash in and put the ball in the endzone, this is what happens.
The defense hasn't even been that awful before tonight. We were slightly below average. This isn't the 2015 defense that was historically poor.
We had the 3rd fewest pass TD's against us and were 8th in pass yards against coming into tonight.
I'm not under any illusions about what this defense is, but when is it okay to think that a lot of the problems offensively are the QB? How much worse does this have to get?
We can pay someone far less to throw bubble screens and dumpoffs all night.
Okie dokie. Whatever makes ya feel better.
6 points at halftime. Can't even score from inside the 5 on a first and goal. If we had even converted one of those FG's into TD's, the game wouldn't even be totally out of reach. But because we can't cash in and put the ball in the endzone, this is what happens.
The defense hasn't even been that awful before tonight. We were slightly below average. This isn't the 2015 defense that was historically poor.
We had the 3rd fewest pass TD's against us and were 8th in pass yards against coming into tonight.
I'm not under any illusions about what this defense is, but when is it okay to think that a lot of the problems offensively are the QB? How much worse does this have to get?
We can pay someone far less to throw bubble screens and dumpoffs all night.
I have said he is done and this would be his last year about a million fucking times. But I guess you and Keith get pleasure of calling me out because I point out that suckitude of others players.
Jesus fucking christ. The OL sucks. The defense sucks. Special teams sucks.
It ok to say other plays suck than Eli. Fucking shit already.
I told you this morning this team sucked. You didn't listen.
I told you this morning this team sucked. You didn't listen.
WTF are you talking about. You and Keith called me out from another thread cause I am making excuses for Eli. Bullshit arc. Grow the fuck up already.
Saying other suck isnt making an excuse for Eli. Its the truth.
Says the guy who joined in 2007 but has only 3 posts to his name. So whose dupe are you?
Maybe douchbag is too strong a word but your obsession with them not picking a QB when anyone with any football knowledge can see they picked a generational player in SB is exhausting as is your long winded bullshit posts...
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I said in this very fucking thread that we have other issues. You just still can't handle people criticizing Eli.
I told you this morning this team sucked. You didn't listen.
WTF are you talking about. You and Keith called me out from another thread cause I am making excuses for Eli. Bullshit arc. Grow the fuck up already.
Saying other suck isnt making an excuse for Eli. Its the truth.
Lol, it’s almost like you think your posts in the game thread are invisible. Let’s just move on and talk about Eli.
Lol, it’s almost like you think your posts in the game thread are invisible. Let’s just move on and talk about Eli.
Ok so pointing out that Eli Apple blows a coverage or Solder/Wheeler are getting abused is making excuses for Eli.
Stand and be proud of your effort Keith.
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I said in this very fucking thread that we have other issues. You just still can't handle people criticizing Eli.
I told you this morning this team sucked. You didn't listen.
WTF are you talking about. You and Keith called me out from another thread cause I am making excuses for Eli. Bullshit arc. Grow the fuck up already.
Saying other suck isnt making an excuse for Eli. Its the truth.
I'm talking about your stupid fucking WERE GONNA WIN!!! thread you made earlier today.
You literally couldn't have been more wrong. Go back and read it again and realize how stupid it all sounds now.
I need to grow the fuck up because I think Eli is playing poorly and you can't handle people pointing that out?
I don't think I'm the one who needs to grow up...
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I said in this very fucking thread that we have other issues. You just still can't handle people criticizing Eli.
I told you this morning this team sucked. You didn't listen.
WTF are you talking about. You and Keith called me out from another thread cause I am making excuses for Eli. Bullshit arc. Grow the fuck up already.
Saying other suck isnt making an excuse for Eli. Its the truth.
I'm talking about your stupid fucking WERE GONNA WIN!!! thread you made earlier today.
You literally couldn't have been more wrong. Go back and read it again and realize how stupid it all sounds now.
I need to grow the fuck up because I think Eli is playing poorly and you can't handle people pointing that out?
I don't think I'm the one who needs to grow up...
Jesus Christ Arc, are you that nieve. I started the same thread last week jsut for some fun. Look at some of the things I predicted that would happen.
If you cant see that, and need to be called out because you want to sound smart. I dont carewhat people say about Eli.
I am commenting on other players too. Sorry If I cant point out the suckitude of others without people bashing me for not saying something on Eli.
Again, grow up.
You were basically banned from this board because you couldn't control yourself.
I'm not the one who needs to grow up. Look in the mirror.
You were basically banned from this board because you couldn't control yourself.
I'm not the one who needs to grow up. Look in the mirror.
I havent said anything about Eli and defending him all night. JFC. I am getting called out by other posters for pointing the suckiness of other players.
Stop drinking Arc. You are better than this.
You're just getting very defensive over nothing.
I pointed out the pathetic play of the offense and you immediately tried to make it all about the defense. It's the same thing you always do - you want to deflect the blame as far away from #10 as possible. Maybe you don't even realize you're doing it anymore.
In any event - this back and forth is worthless. Enjoy the 2nd half.
I agree but also the defense has the worst first down stats the other team is averaging 7 yards a pop .....cant win like that like I said I agree Eli can’t play with this Oline but this defense sucks bud and it’s not the players really it’s combo of these players not getting this defense and not having the right kind of players for Bettchers defense imo