We are last in the league in sacks.
The OL is often controlled by just four or five DL.
Our top two TEs are out, which is particularly damaging in bad weather.
But in general, I believe the Eagles are closer to the "figure out how to win" end of the spectrum, whereas the Giants are closer to the "figure out how to lose" end.
But in general, I believe the Eagles are closer to the "figure out how to win" end of the spectrum, whereas the Giants are closer to the "figure out how to lose" end.
It was not a good throw by Eli. Should have been thrown on the other side of the receiver's body.
That being said, the complaint on Eli has been that he isn't throwing downfield if the play isn't necessarily there. You can't then complaint when he throws into a tight window in the middle of the field.
outside of 2011, Eli has always had a bit of Jekyll and Hyde act, and you're lying to yourself if you can't bring yourself to at least admit that.
this now is just bad and the excuses are just not there. that throw, like many others the first 1.5 months, is absolutely inexcusable. now 2 min in, with the season on the line, already in a 7-0 hole.
Benched for who? Lauletta is not going to start 6 games into his career. Especially as a 4th rounder.
The team sucks. Two really good players in OBJ and Barkley but the team on the whole is a train wreck. Benching Eli isn't going to help anything. Probably wouldn't hurt anything either but it wouldnt make any type of difference.
I still can't believe that DG actually believed this team could contend this year, truly scary
Yeah, he is not good....
And he is up for a new contract...
I just don't see how you give him double digits.... He is going to command more than 12 plus probably.
It will never happen again as long as Eli is healthy. Not even if we lose every game from now through Thanksgiving.
John Mara is not going to deal with the little pussy fans who get their vaginas hurt when their precious golden buy is asked to sit down. That spooked the shit out of Mara last year. He thought there was going to be another ticket burning event.
coming out of the game, I challenge you to go outside and sprint 45 yards carrying about 20lbs of equipment - then see if you want to take a short break after that.
coming out of the game, I challenge you to go outside and sprint 45 yards carrying about 20lbs of equipment - then see if you want to take a short break after that.
and it is to the point where it is too much for the handful of really good players to overcome.
It is truly the case of the weakest links being the problem.
I know everyone was excited to have OBJ back this year especially paired with the excitement that Barkley brings. There are just too many holes on this team.
The good news. This is noting new.... Eli has done the same crap at least 7 times that I can remember off the top of m head....
Hey, the game is young Maybe we will get a rare Eli specialty. Maybe he will run for a first down again, and then attempt to slide when a defender is within 12 yards of him, and then fumble the ball for no damn reason....
Everything about this team has sucked for 6 years. They are not fun to watch, they get out coached and hustled, they talk shit behind each others backs in the locker room (last year was dreadful in that regard and it is just starting to happen again). Embarrassed by this.
they really are....i been saying this for weeks. WHATEVER ails your team, play the giants it gets fixed
This +10000. They are like the slump buster of football teams. Like when youre in a dry spell with the ladies. Go land an easy one and it changes your luck and you go on a tear.
D has made some plays, but that will end soon. Specials are horrible and Eli Manning has shit bed. This is the biggest game of the year and he looks done.
It is actually kinda sad watching this. Eagles TD here and bedtime.
I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, but please recall that I said in May that when we went 1-4 and after more poor judgement throws/interceptions, the Giants would start Lauletta in week 6.
Just sayin'
RE: RE: nice job missing a wide open SS on that play
if you haven't noticed, about 80% of the posts on this thread are downright embarrassing tonight:
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Eli is awful..
Sean : 9:03 pm : link : reply
the fact that we have a handful of posters here who flip out at anyone who questions this is a disgrace.
Basically every incompletion is Eli's fault. Every sack. Even when Barkley isn't in the game it is Eli's fault.
you guys sound like a bunch of crying asswipes.
Are you seriously sitting there watching this game and not seeing him play? Is he responsible for every sack? No. Is he responsible for every dropped pass? No.
Is he responsible for EVERY SINGLE BAD PASS and awful check downs? YES! Just admit it already, he's done.
if you haven't noticed, about 80% of the posts on this thread are downright embarrassing tonight:
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Eli is awful..
Sean : 9:03 pm : link : reply
the fact that we have a handful of posters here who flip out at anyone who questions this is a disgrace.
Basically every incompletion is Eli's fault. Every sack. Even when Barkley isn't in the game it is Eli's fault.
you guys sound like a bunch of crying asswipes.
Are you seriously sitting there watching this game and not seeing him play? Is he responsible for every sack? No. Is he responsible for every dropped pass? No.
Is he responsible for EVERY SINGLE BAD PASS and awful check downs? YES! Just admit it already, he's done.
If a punt returner isnt going to return it, and its bouncing around out there, why do they RUN TO THE BALL??? Get away from it. JSUs H. Thats basic high school stuff. Its why you hear 16-year-old boys screaming POISON during high school games.
vet minimum let alone $20 million! His fucked up mechanics and happy-slow-no feet have caught up with him. As this dirigible floats into Lakehurst, how many are holding the lines? The media is going to barbecue him whether he wins (sarcasm off) or not! He just looks 80 and simply non-athletic to play this game any longer. Seriously, he looks like there is something wrong with his mental decision making! How many times does he get up and look like he has no idea WTF is going on?
rather than hoping for something positive from Eli. Sure, things have broken down, but he just looks so inept out there. Wentz is finding ways to make plays despite pressure. At some point, even his most loyal supporters would rather see him being taken out of his misery. Eli is practically a laughingstock around the league at this point.
Seriously, what are we holding onto? How many more noncompetitive seasons can you stomach?
Lacks a lot of talent or the Giants suck at getting good coaching?! I mean wow, why is it that this team gets out coached almost every game?! Isnt Shurmur an offensive minded coach? Smh..
The Eagles get to play full coverage on 3rd and 16 so there's no fucking chance to attack them. The coach called TWO WR screen passes on 1st and 20 and 2nd and 20. How about attacking on one of those downs? Its unbelievable.
theres no way were winning this game doing that shit. Tell me theres nothing open downfield? Roll Eli out again, get the ball to Barkley in space, something!
Ever want to see Eli in a giants uniform again after this season
Except in a poster or painting
Put him In the ring of honor but he was done before this year and it is just a disgrace and insult to him and us
but he is the problem and I think I am finally realizing he probably has been for a couple of years. The O-line is not good but I think part of the problem is defenses dont fear Eli at all and it puts a ton of pressure on the line and backs.
Eli is just not the guy anymore. He has no confidence in his WR's to get open or his line to give him time, even when he does get time he rushes his passes. Be gone with him after this year please.
So does the team. Barkley and the kicker are the only bright spots of this season. But Shurmur has come in and done nothing to make himself look any different than McAdoo. He is McAdoo 2.0.
But I'm wondering how much longer Eli can play like this. Maybe it's just my frustration and I'm talking out of my ass. I dunno. What I do know is that this is mind-numbingly frustrating football.
If he keeps this up, he's going to damage his Hall of Fame chances.
I think his Hall of Fame chances are dead. No way it happens. He's seen as a Trent Dilfer by non Giants fans and he'll likely finish with a losing career record.
Thats the only way we can get some yards. Pathetic offense
I said the same thing to my buddy. All three plays should have been handed to Barkley. Not kidding. Shouldnt have thrown once or looked at any other player. But of course they decide to trust Eli and the OL. SMH
Separation anywhere. You run barkley 3 times from the 5, STOP trying to throw wow. This entire half is on the horrific playcalling and horrific offensive line. And yea Eli throwing the ball 5 yards to Matt fucking Simonson on the 2nd play of the game with a LB standing on top of him and zero pressure. A few terrible decisions from him so far too.
and allowing Barkley to pick his path behind him, at the same time giving Wheeler a chance moving forward, instead of chopping backward, might be a plan.
What else is new. They can't block for runs. The only good runs we get are when we throw it to the side. They can't pass protect as Eli has defenders in his face on every play.
you arent going to find a single QB who will succeed behind this line.
I dont disagree with the other parts of your statement but you just cannot say this. There are quite a few guys who can take a step to the left or right and then have a running lane burning the defense for 10 yards or making a play on the run. We are watching a whole new era of QBs do this and with a line that is not good as well. It just looks much worse when you compound a bad line with an immobile QB with happy feet.
is there any reason to think this team is any better than last year's team? This may be a 3 win team. I was way too optimistic thinking they could probably be .500 before the season started.
Eli is done. DG and Shurmur have shown nothing to suggest that they are better than mediocre. The OL is a disaster and there is little to think that the defense is improved. What a total disaster!
Yeah, it is over. It is sad at this point because people who have shit on him his whole career will use these final lasting memories to say he always sucked. Also, he will finish will career losing record. That boggles my fucking mind
what the fuck are you talking about he had 2 yards
You're a joke. He had no separation. In fact there was a safety ocer the top but because this coach refuses to run the ball on 1st and stick with it, we get to watch Eli throw into double coverage for the rest of the game...because thrrow it deep.
RE: I don't know how much more of this shit I can watch
The front office was wrong about Eli still being a starter in this league. But they were still right to take Barkley- he's too good a player to pass up.
Shurmur isn't much better. Never did I think after having to sit through the shit show that was 2017, would the franchise replace the coach and GM with clones and force us all to sit through the exact same shit show in 2018.
Shurmur isn't much better. Never did I think after having to sit through the shit show that was 2017, would the franchise replace the coach and GM with clones and force us all to sit through the exact same shit show in 2018.
I think this team is actually worse.,. Im not sure how its possible but they did it
Add that to our horrible O-line and you get the game we are seeing. Not much we can do about it without upgrading the o-line and those upgrades are NOT on the team.
Add that to our horrible O-line and you get the game we are seeing. Not much we can do about it without upgrading the o-line and those upgrades are NOT on the team.
Shurmur isn't much better. Never did I think after having to sit through the shit show that was 2017, would the franchise replace the coach and GM with clones and force us all to sit through the exact same shit show in 2018.
I think this team is actually worse.,. Im not sure how its possible but they did it
No way, I thought Reese was the problem and Gettleman was much better and also responsible for anything good that happened on Reese's watch.
Eli is done - if you dont see that this game you dont know football, he is holding this offense back. I believe Eli is taking the least risky plays - its over.
O-line needs work obviously but is not the major issue.
Defense needs another pass rusher at the very least
Personally Id bench Eli and start gett Kyle practice reps this season is over
a retread who has no business being a HC again and the quicker we cut bait with this shit, the better of we are
How many coaches are we going to fire before looking in another direction for the problem?
I get its eli, but this team stinks in every facet of the game. We cant field punts, we cant tackle, we our getting outcoached in every way. They made adjustments to our pass rush from the second drive. Eli is problem number one, but the rest of the team sucks, too.
I don't care if he pulls this out with 50+ in the second half.. I don't want to see him at QB.
How many 5 yard passes can he Not complete..
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH...
infuriating is that the Giants can't seem to fix the OL. Not Reese, and apparently not Gettleman. Solder and Omameh are overpaid. They also can't seem to fix their awful ST.
As long as teams can control our OL with four or five DL, Eli will be throwing against six or seven defenders. That would be mitigated on at least some plays if he was mobile, but it would be difficult for any QB. Even Barkley is routinely hit in the backfield by multiple defenders.
I think Eli is probably done, but the OL can't block.
infuriating is that the Giants can't seem to fix the OL. Not Reese, and apparently not Gettleman. Solder and Omameh are overpaid. They also can't seem to fix their awful ST.
As long as teams can control our OL with four or five DL, Eli will be throwing against six or seven defenders. That would be mitigated on at least some plays if he was mobile, but it would be difficult for any QB. Even Barkley is routinely hit in the backfield by multiple defenders.
I think Eli is probably done, but the OL can't block.
Not Reese and not Gettleman. Who else is in that front office? Couldn't be Chris Mara could it?
He has a strained quad. He can definitely kick that far when healthy. He isn't a problem.
Look at our beats he was short from that distance in warmups. We had a timeout, we should have ran it on third down to get him the three yards he needed
That's 3 plays in a row eli went deep to Cody Latimer when Odell Beckham also had 1-on-1 coverage. Never even looked at Beckham. Don't tell me Eli doesn't know what Beckham said about him. #PHIvsNYG
Although he has been good, guy last week beat us with one that would be good from 70.
He Fucking injured you idiot.
Even more idiotic is knowing your kicker is injured and calling for a kick anyways. Just Fucking go for the first down, asshole.
Or if we ran the ball on third, picked up three yards, he probably makes it. Either way, he shouldnt have been out there kicking a field goal from that distance if he was coming up short in warmups. Coaches coach around that, ours didnt.
they know shepard isnt a game breaker and latimer stops running his fucking routes. we have no threat at TE and our best asset is a back playing behind a dogshit OL
eli isnt the problem but def not part of solution, he is done.
That's 3 plays in a row eli went deep to Cody Latimer when Odell Beckham also had 1-on-1 coverage. Never even looked at Beckham. Don't tell me Eli doesn't know what Beckham said about him. #PHIvsNYG
Its probably going to come to that, except Im not sure he starts that game on the road. I think he should get some opportunity over the last Quarter of the season.
Team should be embarrassed of themselves. From GM to kicker . You took the #2 pick in the draft to take a generational talent who is leading the team in offense and you keep calling pass plays with a QB who is done.
Defense gets a pass as there is not much talent- but the O is being held back by the QB and his audibles and or coach who is lost
and the butt of the league's jokes right now. They deserve it too. It stinks from ownership right down to the last player on the roster with just a few exceptions.
We will live through the season waiting for a couple of exciting Barkley plays so we have something to feel good about. Maybe every few games OBJ will make a play too.
We are Buffalo Bills fans of the 70s when the team totally sucked but they had OJ Simpson. Never had a real shot at winning anything even with the best player in the league on their roster.
and the butt of the league's jokes right now. They deserve it too. It stinks from ownership right down to the last player on the roster with just a few exceptions.
We will live through the season waiting for a couple of exciting Barkley plays so we have something to feel good about. Maybe every few games OBJ will make a play too.
We are Buffalo Bills fans of the 70s when the team totally sucked but they had OJ Simpson. Never had a real shot at winning anything even with the best player in the league on their roster.
That team at least had an offensive line to block for OJ.
This team isn't even good enough to be the 70s Bills.
this point, I would strongly consider playing six OL for most of the rest of the season.
I also agree that Lauletta is likely to play the last part of the season. We need to see him in real games before heading into the offseason with a very high pick.
Aside from the OL, Jenkins and Apple were also unimpressive.
It's obvious that we may even be worse then last year when we won only 3 games. This GM and coach need to be fired even after one year. Maybe it's the Mara's or Tisch's fault because they hired this GM and coach. We need to start over AGAIN and this time pick a quarterback.
I get an upset stomach looking at the money Gettleman gave to the free agents he signed. Think about it. Solder,Omameh,Stewart,Martin,all signed to big money and they all suck.This GM and coach tied themselves to a quarterback who they believed they could win with and that alone should be cause for termination.
Its probably going to come to that, except Im not sure he starts that game on the road. I think he should get some opportunity over the last Quarter of the season.
Yeah you guys would have loved Jerry Golsteyn , Randy Dean, Norm Snead, Randy Johnson, Joe Pisarcik. Don't think for a minute it can't get worse. This organization is bearing a distinct resemblance to 1973.
is not the problem. He's just a fiery competitor who lets his emotions rule at inopportune times. The OL (80%) and Eli (20%) are why he can't get the ball.
I also don't blame Shurmur. He isn't being asked to block. When your OL is controlled by four or five DL, most passes are a check down, sack, or incompletion.
Barkley has had a small amount of carries every game. A 2nd overall running back should be a work horse.
I said this about two weeks ago. You cannot give him 35 touches per game. He has never played a 16 game season before. You could get him hurt from fatigue.
I know some of you guys get pissed off when he goes to the sideline but you need to do that with a rookie RB.
is not the problem. He's just a fiery competitor who lets his emotions rule at inopportune times. The OL (80%) and Eli (20%) are why he can't get the ball.
I also don't blame Shurmur. He isn't being asked to block. When your OL is controlled by four or five DL, most passes are a check down, sack, or incompletion.
i agree...obj is pissed. im prob more mad than he is lmao. he wants to win and knows they cant in current state
It's obvious that we may even be worse then last year when we won only 3 games. This GM and coach need to be fired even after one year. Maybe it's the Mara's or Tisch's fault because they hired this GM and coach. We need to start over AGAIN and this time pick a quarterback.
I get an upset stomach looking at the money Gettleman gave to the free agents he signed. Think about it. Solder,Omameh,Stewart,Martin,all signed to big money and they all suck.This GM and coach tied themselves to a quarterback who they believed they could win with and that alone should be cause for termination.
You can change the faces but until the Maras get out of football decisions this team will be at the bottom.
It's obvious that we may even be worse then last year when we won only 3 games. This GM and coach need to be fired even after one year. Maybe it's the Mara's or Tisch's fault because they hired this GM and coach. We need to start over AGAIN and this time pick a quarterback.
I get an upset stomach looking at the money Gettleman gave to the free agents he signed. Think about it. Solder,Omameh,Stewart,Martin,all signed to big money and they all suck.This GM and coach tied themselves to a quarterback who they believed they could win with and that alone should be cause for termination.
You can change the faces but until the Maras get out of football decisions this team will be at the bottom.
is not the problem. He's just a fiery competitor who lets his emotions rule at inopportune times. The OL (80%) and Eli (20%) are why he can't get the ball.
I also don't blame Shurmur. He isn't being asked to block. When your OL is controlled by four or five DL, most passes are a check down, sack, or incompletion.
i agree...obj is pissed. im prob more mad than he is lmao. he wants to win and knows they cant in current state
Barkley has had a small amount of carries every game. A 2nd overall running back should be a work horse.
I said this about two weeks ago. You cannot give him 35 touches per game. He has never played a 16 game season before. You could get him hurt from fatigue.
I know some of you guys get pissed off when he goes to the sideline but you need to do that with a rookie RB.
A rookie rb has more endurance now than they ever will.
Are facing a shitty secondary with the best WR in football
Is he really the best in football? Really?
He's really good but he needs some help. He is double and triple teamed with impunity because no one gives a shit about our other receivers. You can routinely rush 4 guys, double team Odell and there are still 5 other guys to cover the remaining 3 or 4 receivers.
It is lofic defying the GM thought this QB and team combo was going to compete.
I really dont think that DG had a choice. I am willing to bet the house that Mara insisted that Eli be the QB this year after the fans freaked out over the benching last year.
is not the problem. He's just a fiery competitor who lets his emotions rule at inopportune times. The OL (80%) and Eli (20%) are why he can't get the ball.
I also don't blame Shurmur. He isn't being asked to block. When your OL is controlled by four or five DL, most passes are a check down, sack, or incompletion.
i agree...obj is pissed. im prob more mad than he is lmao. he wants to win and knows they cant in current state
Then stop dropping punts!
also agree, but he is just trying to do to much. he feels he needs to make every play and doesnt just take the safe route. he knows eli and the OL arent good...he knows we stink as does shurmur and DG.
the great Carson Wentz hasn't looked especially good tonight. Bunch of balls in the turf, some wounded ducks that somehow got caught, and refs deciding that only the Eagles WRs are allowed to go for the ball in the air -- not our DBs.
It's obvious that we may even be worse then last year when we won only 3 games. This GM and coach need to be fired even after one year. Maybe it's the Mara's or Tisch's fault because they hired this GM and coach. We need to start over AGAIN and this time pick a quarterback.
I get an upset stomach looking at the money Gettleman gave to the free agents he signed. Think about it. Solder,Omameh,Stewart,Martin,all signed to big money and they all suck.This GM and coach tied themselves to a quarterback who they believed they could win with and that alone should be cause for termination.
You can change the faces but until the Maras get out of football decisions this team will be at the bottom.
is not the problem. He's just a fiery competitor who lets his emotions rule at inopportune times. The OL (80%) and Eli (20%) are why he can't get the ball.
I also don't blame Shurmur. He isn't being asked to block. When your OL is controlled by four or five DL, most passes are a check down, sack, or incompletion.
i agree...obj is pissed. im prob more mad than he is lmao. he wants to win and knows they cant in current state
Then stop dropping punts!
Yup.. ODB was a major reason we were in a 14-3 hole last week. He needs to shut up and do his job.
Should've been fourth down. Now they're in Giants territory again. This team can't even get a break with calls. Just nothing going right in any way, shape or form. This feels more painful than last year for some reason.
It is lofic defying the GM thought this QB and team combo was going to compete.
I really dont think that DG had a choice. I am willing to bet the house that Mara insisted that Eli be the QB this year after the fans freaked out over the benching last year.
I'm willing to bet interview question number one was: you're keeping Manning, right?
Think Eli isnt a problem while watching guys like Wentz avoid the rush and make plays, while at the same time attacking Eli haters, is fucking laughable.
in that he couldnt have had the first idea of what a shitshow he walked into. The layers of garbage leftover from the poor play, losing, bad drafts, bad management, bad characters & bad attitudes in that lockerroom ...it was gonna go bad one way or another. The jettisoning of bodys from last years roster and the continued patchwork bullshit thrown together year after year has fallen so short of a winning ...its a disgrace to see it all play out yet again.
It is lofic defying the GM thought this QB and team combo was going to compete.
I really dont think that DG had a choice. I am willing to bet the house that Mara insisted that Eli be the QB this year after the fans freaked out over the benching last year.
I'm willing to bet interview question number one was: you're keeping Manning, right?
There is no doubt in my mind that it was a prerequisite for both the GM and coach gigs
The fact that people on this site
Justlurking : 10:26 pm : link : reply
Think Eli isnt a problem while watching guys like Wentz avoid the rush and make plays, while at the same time attacking Eli haters, is fucking laughable.
Who doesn't think Eli is part of the problem? Seriously? The vast majority of posts tonight are acting like Eli is fucking up what otherwise is a win.
Eli is part of the problem. "Eli haters" think he's the only fucking problem.
in that he couldnt have had the first idea of what a shitshow he walked into. The layers of garbage leftover from the poor play, losing, bad drafts, bad management, bad characters & bad attitudes in that lockerroom ...it was gonna go bad one way or another. The jettisoning of bodys from last years roster and the continued patchwork bullshit thrown together year after year has fallen so short of a winning ...its a disgrace to see it all play out yet again.
His first mistake was agreeing that Eli could be the QB. He should have insisted on a new QB for a new regime.
The fact that people on this site
Justlurking : 10:26 pm : link : reply
Think Eli isnt a problem while watching guys like Wentz avoid the rush and make plays, while at the same time attacking Eli haters, is fucking laughable.
Who doesn't think Eli is part of the problem? Seriously? The vast majority of posts tonight are acting like Eli is fucking up what otherwise is a win.
Eli is part of the problem. "Eli haters" think he's the only fucking problem.
Why is this so fucking hard to understand??
On the money again. But if you dont shit on Eli for everything, you are just a defender. Eli's time is over. Even his defenders have said it all year.
But if you point out when other players suck, you get called out for not blaming Eli. This thread was a disgrace.
This team is ASS. Total ASS. Top-5 pick here we come. I'm okay with that. It only increases the Giants chances of improving one of these years/decades. So, I either want a QB or trade down.
The fact that people on this site
Justlurking : 10:26 pm : link : reply
Think Eli isnt a problem while watching guys like Wentz avoid the rush and make plays, while at the same time attacking Eli haters, is fucking laughable.
Who doesn't think Eli is part of the problem? Seriously? The vast majority of posts tonight are acting like Eli is fucking up what otherwise is a win.
Eli is part of the problem. "Eli haters" think he's the only fucking problem.
Why is this so fucking hard to understand??
He's the biggest part of the problem
John Mara will probably be forced to talk this week
because of this embarrassment and he will act all mad as hell and retreat to hiring only people he knows or some half measure that will never fix this.
The fact that people on this site
Justlurking : 10:26 pm : link : reply
Think Eli isnt a problem while watching guys like Wentz avoid the rush and make plays, while at the same time attacking Eli haters, is fucking laughable.
Who doesn't think Eli is part of the problem? Seriously? The vast majority of posts tonight are acting like Eli is fucking up what otherwise is a win.
Eli is part of the problem. "Eli haters" think he's the only fucking problem.
Why is this so fucking hard to understand??
Eli Manning has been the only starter for what is now the worst offense in the league. I mean it is brutal. It is now very difficult to defend him any longer. He has played since '04 and has been fucking obliterated so many times that it may just be over.
This team also does not try, or can not run the ball in a physical manner. They just refuse, this is with a back who looks all world.
because of this embarrassment and he will act all mad as hell and retreat to hiring only people he knows or some half measure that will never fix this.
about what? the fucking obvious? would rather he STFU now
because of this embarrassment and he will act all mad as hell and retreat to hiring only people he knows or some half measure that will never fix this.
who thinks Eli is the only problem on this team should stop watching football.
That being said, Eli might be the biggest problem with this team. It's either him or the offensive line. Both simply suck.
It will never happen, but I would be very happy if Gettleman lost his job in the off-season. He actually believed this team could contend, which is a fireable offense.
The offense has a WR who is one of the 2 or 3 best players at his position in the entire league, and the RB is also one of the 2 or 3 best players at his position in the league, and they are easily one of the worst offenses in the entire league.
Eli sucks just as much as the offensive line does. He is totally finished.
I have no idea what to make of Shurmur, but I have zero confidence whatsoever in DG. His off-season comments are particularly concerning.
This team has folded without saying it. Who's responsible for this? This all points back at the coach. He has lost this team. The efforts to bench and cut Flowers were just not enough, more needed to be done.
The thing is that nobody here can disagree with him. Worst team in the league right now. The "talent on this team" we see tosses around here too often really is all about two players.
The thing is that nobody here can disagree with him. Worst team in the league right now. The "talent on this team" we see tosses around here too often really is all about two players.
And I'm very skeptical about one of those two right now.
........all we can do now is look forward to developing players this year and lining up your team for next year. Season at 1-5 is all but over already.
The thing is that nobody here can disagree with him. Worst team in the league right now. The "talent on this team" we see tosses around here too often really is all about two players.
And I'm very skeptical about one of those two right now.
come on man... dont be ridiculous. We have two of the top 20 skill position players in the league on this team. It is just not nearly enough when that is all you have.
in that he couldnt have had the first idea of what a shitshow he walked into. The layers of garbage leftover from the poor play, losing, bad drafts, bad management, bad characters & bad attitudes in that lockerroom ...it was gonna go bad one way or another. The jettisoning of bodys from last years roster and the continued patchwork bullshit thrown together year after year has fallen so short of a winning ...its a disgrace to see it all play out yet again.
His first mistake was agreeing that Eli could be the QB. He should have insisted on a new QB for a new regime.
Ater the benching of Eli last season, the blowback in the media and from the fans, Mara having to come out of the shadows for damage control and DGs endorsement of Eli, I Just dont think the new head coach had anywhere to go especially not after DGs 1st round pick. I say DG because I do believe he was pulling the strings and Shurm to some degree was the yes man.
Barkley is so much fun to watch. Tonight is his coming out party. The man is on pace for 2,100 yards from scrimmage and he looks like he is starting to heat up.
It is because you make your own breaks. good teams do not rely on luck to win games. If you NEED luck to win then you simply are not a good team...period.
so, while people are looking for a break or a call from the official so we can win... the reality is we suck
Under Eli Manning they cannot beat the Eagles, yet people will defend Eli tomorrow as if this latest disaster wasn't his fault.
What veteran QB throws a pass directly in the center of the field like Eli did to set up the first Eagles TD.
This team will never succeed now or in the next couple of years with Eli as the QB.
It is because you make your own breaks. good teams do not rely on luck to win games. If you NEED luck to win then you simply are not a good team...period.
so, while people are looking for a break or a call from the official so we can win... the reality is we suck
Is that this is not about giving DG and SHurmur some time to turn this around. They have flipped the roster and yet the new players are as bad or worse than what they gave up. The coaches have made no difference in the offense and most importantly starting with Eli, management has made some major mistakes in personnel.
These refs are clearly responding to the players reaching
It dies anyone get the feeling the refs are pissed and showing it about the Giants griping aboutlast weeks calls? Im seeing lots of holds not called and 50-50 calls not breaking their way.
It dies anyone get the feeling the refs are pissed and showing it about the Giants griping aboutlast weeks calls? Im seeing lots of holds not called and 50-50 calls not breaking their way.
im not much of a conspiracy theorist. also it wasnt just the giants who called em out, the nfl admitted to the mistake on collins call....
i know they missed two BLATANT holds on eagles last drive that would have killed their drive
He probably right that Barks is the undisputed leader of the Giants. Aikman takes a lot of heat for being a homer but I think hes the color guy I like the most.
He probably right that Barks is the undisputed leader of the Giants. Aikman takes a lot of heat for being a homer but I think hes the color guy I like the most.
Think about that. We arent under performing. We are a joke. I dont believe we have any stars on this team. We have ZERO leaders. And that includes Eli. Not ONE strong voice. We are the new browns. And its not arguable. We fucking suck.
RE: Its not why were losing and Im not blaming officials
It dies anyone get the feeling the refs are pissed and showing it about the Giants griping aboutlast weeks calls? Im seeing lots of holds not called and 50-50 calls not breaking their way.
This had been called like an Eagles game from last year.
But what the hell was that? Go to commercials so they can come back for 10 seconds and immediately run more commercials? It's not just the Giants being trash that's making me hate the NFL, that's for sure.
Think about that. We arent under performing. We are a joke. I dont believe we have any stars on this team. We have ZERO leaders. And that includes Eli. Not ONE strong voice. We are the new browns. And its not arguable. We fucking suck.
Barks is a star and a leader. Hes the future. So, maybe were the new Lions?
Then well see what comes out of the locker room over these next 10 days. Im sure Josina Anderson will have some anonymous source shitting on Eli and Shurm.
Helps when you have an a Oline and a QB that can make those throws. Their Oline was the best in the league last year and tonight looks very much the part.
He probably right that Barks is the undisputed leader of the Giants. Aikman takes a lot of heat for being a homer but I think hes the color guy I like the most.
He's speaking the truth right now regarding OBJ.
What I disagree with is the idea that leaders are determined by contracts. That's complete nonsense. You're either a leader or you're not. Leaders are not always the biggest, strongest, or most talented players.
not just the lack of quality players. Players go to different teams and they play better. Plus teams that get new coaches don't play this bad??! As if they don't know whta the hell they are doing??
Was rewarded for good behavior this offseason, according to ownership. Got his money, right back to the same BS he was up to the past few years. He's the same disruption he was before the contract.
Saquon is the leader. Does everything right. Don't see him celebrating his TD's down 31-13. Time to pass on the torch 10. Rebuild this team around 26.
Challenge now for Shumur
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is keeping this team together after an1-5 start. Season could seriously collapse again. Im not sure how another 3-13 season would go in NY.
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sIMMS11..Not being facetious but you think this outfit will win 2 more games this year? This is Cleveland Browns bad
Challenge now for Shumur
Simms11 : 11:00 pm : link : reply
is keeping this team together after an1-5 start. Season could seriously collapse again. Im not sure how another 3-13 season would go in NY.
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sIMMS11..Not being facetious but you think this outfit will win 2 more games this year? This is Cleveland Browns bad
Im not so sure, but I do think theyll win a few more
But a lot of these pressures are now avoided by most QBs. You don't need to be a scrambling qb, just somewhat mobile. Sometimes I feel like Eli actually steps into the rush actually.
When the announcers also continually say John doe was the "closest receiver" it's pretty sad.
RE: Who is the gunner who wasn't interested in the play?
And even that will always be debated. Everything else he has done has been the wrong decision. I didn't think it possible Mara would replace McAdoo/Reese with clones. But here we are.
See, this is the night I think twill kill his career, or status as franchise QB, but on that play he has two guys coming with jailbreak pressure and Barkley kinda got steamrolled and Eli got nailed while trying to step up.
He had no time to even survey field for a throw, let alone physically throw the ball. I mean the play is blown up from the go.
Lstimer and Davis are getting single coverage. Probably at least two and may be three on ODB. Surprised?
He's not pulling double coverage on every play, and you've still gotta take shots. When was the last time a big name WR, a Brown or a Jones, went a full game without a target more than 10 yards downfield? It's...there's not even a fuckng word for it.
And even that will always be debated. Everything else he has done has been the wrong decision. I didn't think it possible Mara would replace McAdoo/Reese with clones. But here we are.
So Hernandez and BJ Hill arent good draft choices? Please...
Eric mentioned it in his review- Special teams... how does the gunner just walk by a fair catch and then it gets muffled. These are all signs of a BAD TEAM
Poorly coached
Bad players
Maybe next year
RE: Who is the gunner who wasn't interested in the play?
Just jogged by a turnover. ThIs team is just a complete and utter shitshow
That was the picture perfect embodiment of our team. I just shook my head watching that douche just mosey On down the field when he could have grabbed the muffed ball. Jesus.
To get down in front of the punt returner to put pressure on him and watch for the mufff. Latimer just went through the motions. No effort on this team.
okay well....this draft has 2 good QB prospects so far and 3 good OT prospects so first draft choice should be fun. i expect it to be top 3 so prob go the QB route and OL round 2.
on many passes tonight. His body is almost contorted as he's throwing it.
He's just shot. He'll retire at the end of the year to avoid an unceremonious release.
He really has no business playing this late into his 30s. I love him but he's not brady, brees or his brother. Not sure what he's trying to prove, he's done more then anyone thought. He should retire with his health while he still has it.
This team is and has been one of the 3-5 worst franchises in the sport
The fact that they ignored that and went all in on Eli is very disturbing. They had better not make that mistake again. Eli has to go after this season.
Eli literally can't throw a 1 yard pass accurately
Imagine the explosiveness with him as another running option next to Saquon
He doesnt need even a competent O-Line
For the 2016 NFL season, Kaepernick played twelve games and ended the season with 2,241 passing yards, sixteen passing touchdowns, four interceptions and added 468 rushing yards and two rushing touchdowns.
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And even that will always be debated. Everything else he has done has been the wrong decision. I didn't think it possible Mara would replace McAdoo/Reese with clones. But here we are.
So Hernandez and BJ Hill arent good draft choices? Please...
Sure. And Beckham was a good draft choice for Reese. But in the end what difference does it make? DG sat up there and mocked the direction the NFL (including the perennial winners) scouting departments were headed in. And this is the guy we trust with rebuilding from scratch?
I wonder if they'll bench Omameh for Pulley next week, or use Pully at center, and put Greco at guard. Evan Brown is another guy we may see by the end of the year.
I paid a hefty sum to come all the way to Met Life and watch this shit..the Giants weren't even competitive. Anybody know where I can get a refund? I just got ripped off big fucking time....email Giants Corporate? Anybody know? Fucking serious...Thanks
I paid a hefty sum to come all the way to Met Life and watch this shit..the Giants weren't even competitive. Anybody know where I can get a refund? I just got ripped off big fucking time....email Giants Corporate? Anybody know? Fucking serious...Thanks
Why would I be dumb enough to spend money on this game
I paid a hefty sum to come all the way to Met Life and watch this shit..the Giants weren't even competitive. Anybody know where I can get a refund? I just got ripped off big fucking time....email Giants Corporate? Anybody know? Fucking serious...Thanks
Why would I be dumb enough to spend money on this game
Gotta feel for PSL payees that are individual fans for paying the Madoffs, sorry Maras.Actually one in the same
I paid a hefty sum to come all the way to Met Life and watch this shit..the Giants weren't even competitive. Anybody know where I can get a refund? I just got ripped off big fucking time....email Giants Corporate? Anybody know? Fucking serious...Thanks
Why would I be dumb enough to spend money on this game
Gotta feel for PSL payees that are individual fans for paying the Madoffs, sorry Maras.Actually one in the same
you guys keep seeing me on the game threads because I keep selling my tickets. Not paying a few hundred dollars to watch bad football.
Carl says the NYG are teetering on being a laughing stock
Im so sick of the lack of use of Barkley in the ground game. Again Barkley with 13 carries and Eli with 41 pass attempts. Cant protect the QB so drop him back time and time again. Meanwhile only hand the best player on the field the ball 13 times.
:-/
:-/
Opens the broadcast by gushing over Aikmans outfit.
Good grief Joe, just blow him already so we can get on with the game
We are last in the league in sacks.
The OL is often controlled by just four or five DL.
Our top two TEs are out, which is particularly damaging in bad weather.
Giants win 20-17.
G O G I A N T S !
I think he's closer to 4 feet than you think.
:)
Right? He looks ridiculous standing inbetween those guys
He may as well be holding a giant lollypop
ill be rooting!
Giants 24
Eagles 20
Not necessarily. Giants are a better passing team right now and this weather doesnt help with that.
Stop this crap in NFCE games where we feel things out and take some time to get into flow.
God forbid we score 2 touchdowns in the first half of a divisional game....
Clowns.
I'm going with this astute assessment.
Horrible throw.
Yeah, great
Worst possible start you can have
-Papa
And oh yeah the easy read was Barkley In the flat which a pop warner kid would have done
Its the O-Line!
+1
This has been at least a 10 year trend....
It will be nice to have a QB in the future who can actually create more time with his feet.
The Giants offensive line is horrid, but Eli also makes them look even worse with his inability to move at all
Im already ready to throw up!
And great awesome pass rush by such a dominant defensive scheme.
We play zone and leave their best WR open
We have a defensive holding penalty.
For christ sakes.
Lolz. Best I almost sacked the qb pass rusher of all time
It was not a good throw by Eli. Should have been thrown on the other side of the receiver's body.
That being said, the complaint on Eli has been that he isn't throwing downfield if the play isn't necessarily there. You can't then complaint when he throws into a tight window in the middle of the field.
this now is just bad and the excuses are just not there. that throw, like many others the first 1.5 months, is absolutely inexcusable. now 2 min in, with the season on the line, already in a 7-0 hole.
defenders of the faith...attack me at will !
Good idea
Hate those short throws nothing good comes from it .
Hand them 7 fuck me !
Benched for who? Lauletta is not going to start 6 games into his career. Especially as a 4th rounder.
The team sucks. Two really good players in OBJ and Barkley but the team on the whole is a train wreck. Benching Eli isn't going to help anything. Probably wouldn't hurt anything either but it wouldnt make any type of difference.
I still can't believe that DG actually believed this team could contend this year, truly scary
Lolol
Yeah, he is not good....
And he is up for a new contract...
I just don't see how you give him double digits.... He is going to command more than 12 plus probably.
He isn't worth it.
Kaps problems >>> Elis problems. Lets iust leave it at that.
It will never happen again as long as Eli is healthy. Not even if we lose every game from now through Thanksgiving.
John Mara is not going to deal with the little pussy fans who get their vaginas hurt when their precious golden buy is asked to sit down. That spooked the shit out of Mara last year. He thought there was going to be another ticket burning event.
he flies
come on man. you are comparing a DE to the best LB in league history.
2 fuck ups in a row by SS.
2 fuck ups in a row by SS.
It was a perfect throw. Not SS fault on that one if you watched what happened. The play before yes.
What a asshole you are. Go away now.
Then bring in Gallman WTF ??
same what Mcaffrey got a first down last week
2 fuck ups in a row by SS.
He got tripped by the defender. And the prior throw from Eli hit the turf. Stop being a clown.
Just feels like we havent gotten any breaks
Jesus.
I'm pretty sick of that. They take him off the field way too much.
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Just feels like we havent gotten any breaks
well all we can hope for. if he trusts them, less happy feet, more sturdy base, better throws
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Just feels like we havent gotten any breaks
You make your own breaks. It starts by not throwing the ball to a completely covered TE when you have your RB wide open and time to throw.
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With a big run, then sits on bench, WTF!
I'm pretty sick of that. They take him off the field way too much.
he 100% took himself out of the game btw
But damn that pull for Hernandez was text book. He got around and on his man quick.
Jesus.
These refs arent going to call them. Have to rack up those SB eligibility scores!
in the red zone ...
But damn that pull for Hernandez was text book. He got around and on his man quick.
Agreed.
Maybe so but the DB got away with his hands on SS right shoulder before the legs got tangled. The trip definitely masked the other contact IMO.
happens all the time...
Night night. Don't post anymore.
^This.
Collins waited for it like a doofus...go get it!!
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Night night. Don't post anymore.
FYI its 1:45 am and I have work at 6
No doubt
Lol well said
Different defense with him
My god
Hes going to be gassed however by the 4th. We need an Edge rusher on the other side desperately.
Had a TD last drive. It was a perfect throw.
Because they tripled covered him
Saw that. Got stoned. I'll give him a pass on that one.
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On the third down play
Get the f@$k out here with thta BS
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Had a TD last drive. It was a perfect throw.
No, it was incomplete.
Hes actually got a hot 41 year old wife that just had twins
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Now maybe if Eli can stop fucking up....
Had a TD last drive. It was a perfect throw.
No, it was incomplete.
Forgot. He has to catch it too.
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On the third down play
Not hard to notice
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makes this D 3 time better.
Hes going to be gassed however by the 4th. We need an Edge rusher on the other side desperately.
Agreed.
Saw that. Got stoned. I'll give him a pass on that one.
You saw what?
Saw the 2nd guy crack him in the ribs?
and how many years?
Horrible job by offense
Same here
All in!!!!
No he didnt. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
Solder gets paid a ton of money and he single handedly blew up that drive.
Look again
They two guys he hiked that werent blocked ruined that play
And there goes Quinns special teams
But it's the punter who sucks, right?
52 yards is too far for these idiots?
Really! Go inside.
Please please make this the last season
Please
eli does lose it easy but he didnt even plant his foot and bennett was home. solder barely touched him
Your holding intelligent life back
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No he didnt. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
The ball was out before contact. You just stop.
Yup, I just said that. Somehow everyone missed that
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Eli didn't fumble, that's a safety.
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Oh so smart play by Manning
#1 Draft pick here we come
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Saw that. Got stoned. I'll give him a pass on that one.
You saw what?
Saw the 2nd guy crack him in the ribs?
Dude chill. Just an observation. Not trashing the guy.
Very possible
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BEFORE HE GOT HIT...
No he didnt. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
The ball was out before contact. You just stop.
I watched the replay 6 times. His arm was forcibly hit and the defender went right to the ball then. Just stop.
It is truly the case of the weakest links being the problem.
I know everyone was excited to have OBJ back this year especially paired with the excitement that Barkley brings. There are just too many holes on this team.
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BEFORE HE GOT HIT...
No he didnt. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
The ball was out before contact. You just stop.
Bennett got his hand in and stripped it
So fumble the ball to avoid a safety..but also possibly turn it over there for a td...great logic
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Look again
Yep, I am incorrect. He dropped it when touched.
You are right.
The replay clearly shows that.
The good news. This is noting new.... Eli has done the same crap at least 7 times that I can remember off the top of m head....
Hey, the game is young Maybe we will get a rare Eli specialty. Maybe he will run for a first down again, and then attempt to slide when a defender is within 12 yards of him, and then fumble the ball for no damn reason....
He has done that multiple times in his caarrear.
Cant help it, the Giants are on
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Look again
Yep, I am incorrect. He dropped it when touched.
The defender (Bennett) stripped it
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BEFORE HE GOT HIT...
No he didnt. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
The ball was out before contact. You just stop.
Bennett got his hand in and stripped it
The ball was loose before contact
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BEFORE HE GOT HIT...
No he didnt. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
The ball was out before contact. You just stop.
Bennett got his hand in and stripped it
Looked like the ball was loose before any contract.
Regardless, it's another fuck up by the offense.
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BEFORE HE GOT HIT...
No he didnt. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
The ball was out before contact. You just stop.
Bennett got his hand in and stripped it
The ball was loose before contact
no bennetts inside hand hit the ball
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BEFORE HE GOT HIT...
No he didnt. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
The ball was out before contact. You just stop.
Bennett got his hand in and stripped it
Looked like the ball was loose before any contract.
Regardless, it's another fuck up by the offense.
Par for the course
Even with that hit.
He doesnt wrap and h doesnt like the contact
If you are suggesting that this team has no heart and is not trying, then I am not sure what you are watching. Effort is not an issue here.
Seems?????
Dude. We were never had a spit ball's chance in hell of winning this game....
We ARE always in a hole, becuse we SUCK!!!!! And blow.
BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
It was a rollout where the LT didnt even touch the DE. Not even a hand.
Phillys scored 7 points all year in the first quarter. Tonight they hit 14. NYG are the Get right game indeed.
they really are....i been saying this for weeks. WHATEVER ails your team, play the giants it gets fixed
All that feel-good bullshit after losing to the Panthers led to this???
Every year in sept oct..is that mantra
Time to get smart and start rooting for the #1 draft pick by mid-October
LOL
You shitting me?
I hit the liquor store around 6:30 earlier!
Thank god!
Oma, with another whiff.
ST and offense put us in a hole on the 2nd TD.
Its also wet. Well get a TO.
Eagles arent a great team.
Lot of time left here.
really? nothing? interesting...
they have a more well rounded roster than we do. We have one WR and one RB that is better than theirs.
would you like to line up the rest of the positions and see where this shakes out?
So far just Barkley as usual
Time to get smart and start rooting for the #1 draft pick by mid-October
Giants entered the game holding the #1 pick.
Eli fucked up opening drive. Gave up 7 points
Shepard falls and we don;t score inside 20.
Special Teams not helping.
OL and Eli fucked up 3rd drive and gave up points again.
Game over...
Come back?
What, to the Milky Way?
We ain't coming back Totally stuck in Andromeda.....
down to the one ..TD
We should lead...
ST and offense put us in a hole on the 2nd TD.
Its also wet. Well get a TO.
Eagles arent a great team.
Lot of time left here.
Bless you my son
Time to get smart and start rooting for the #1 draft pick by mid-October
So Gettleman can take a DE? Oh yay
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really? nothing? interesting...
they have a more well rounded roster than we do. We have one WR and one RB that is better than theirs.
would you like to line up the rest of the positions and see where this shakes out?
I said this during the offseasons. We have 2-4 players who could start for the Eagles.
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they really are....i been saying this for weeks. WHATEVER ails your team, play the giants it gets fixed
This +10000. They are like the slump buster of football teams. Like when youre in a dry spell with the ladies. Go land an easy one and it changes your luck and you go on a tear.
Eli way off.
Drew Lock; Missouri
Jarrett Stidham; Auburn
Not that I know anything about any of them.
But Id sign Kap right now.
Agree..paid this guy?? Ft. Or this shit
5 yards might as well be 50
It was a perfect throw. Sterling needs to run faster.
he threw off of his back foot again and had time
there isn't a QB in existence that would succeed on this team. It ain't all on Eli.
Lets go D!!!
Please god no
The disgrace are posters that focus it on one player instead of.understanding the team sucks
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keep up the good work Eli
It was a perfect throw. Sterling needs to run faster.
LOL !!
Impressive.
Should we start talking draft picks?
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the fact that we have a handful of posters here who flip out at anyone who questions this is a disgrace.
there isn't a QB in existence that would succeed on this team. It ain't all on Eli.
Aaron Rodgers disagrees
It is actually kinda sad watching this. Eagles TD here and bedtime.
If not for the non call..that was looking like a big play
Should we start talking draft picks?
Start? Theres been draft threads the last 3 weeks lol
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keep up the good work Eli
It was a perfect throw. Sterling needs to run faster.
Its Shephards fault for not being able run a 3.0 40.
The waterboy has some nice H2O
yea im a dwfender of solder, but he looks like a revolving door tonight
Um where? Everyone is killing him in here
Oh well... Dead on arrival
Just sayin'
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keep up the good work Eli
It was a perfect throw. Sterling needs to run faster.
Get your Eli Jammys off and see the truth.
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the fact that we have a handful of posters here who flip out at anyone who questions this is a disgrace.
The disgrace are posters that focus it on one player instead of.understanding the team sucks
Hes the QB. Its the way it works.
Made a minor adjustment. Damn Solder is brutal. Eli isnt much better.
Sean : 9:03 pm : link : reply
the fact that we have a handful of posters here who flip out at anyone who questions this is a disgrace.
Basically every incompletion is Eli's fault. Every sack. Even when Barkley isn't in the game it is Eli's fault.
you guys sound like a bunch of crying asswipes.
If the team gets better
Eli will still be done
Wake up
Hes a statue
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keep up the good work Eli
It was a perfect throw. Sterling needs to run faster.
Get your Eli Jammys off and see the truth.
Or perhaps your sarcasm detection is awful
Still, if youre running the show, as a first-year head coach, when do you make the QB change?
Or do you?
put your bets in if we get a stop
No TE is not a good thing ..
Eli had time nobody open
or he is getting thrashed .
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Sean : 9:03 pm : link : reply
the fact that we have a handful of posters here who flip out at anyone who questions this is a disgrace.
Basically every incompletion is Eli's fault. Every sack. Even when Barkley isn't in the game it is Eli's fault.
you guys sound like a bunch of crying asswipes.
We have surpassed Cowboys fans as the worst in the NFL.
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the fact that we have a handful of posters here who flip out at anyone who questions this is a disgrace.
The disgrace are posters that focus it on one player instead of.understanding the team sucks
Hes the QB. Its the way it works.
No it's moronic simpleton thinking
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Sean : 9:03 pm : link : reply
the fact that we have a handful of posters here who flip out at anyone who questions this is a disgrace.
Basically every incompletion is Eli's fault. Every sack. Even when Barkley isn't in the game it is Eli's fault.
you guys sound like a bunch of crying asswipes.
Are you seriously sitting there watching this game and not seeing him play? Is he responsible for every sack? No. Is he responsible for every dropped pass? No.
Is he responsible for EVERY SINGLE BAD PASS and awful check downs? YES! Just admit it already, he's done.
I cannot believe Gettleman thought this team was good enough to succeed with this level of QB play.
Bless you
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Eli is awful..
Sean : 9:03 pm : link : reply
the fact that we have a handful of posters here who flip out at anyone who questions this is a disgrace.
Basically every incompletion is Eli's fault. Every sack. Even when Barkley isn't in the game it is Eli's fault.
you guys sound like a bunch of crying asswipes.
We have surpassed Cowboys fans as the worst in the NFL.
If only every fan was as great as you. Get off your high horse.
barwins right in his hands, its not like close range and came out hot, that was an easy one haha
would have and could have been a huge tide turner
Its laughable at this point, cant make a play to save our life.
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keep up the good work Eli
It was a perfect throw. Sterling needs to run faster.
Get your Eli Jammys off and see the truth.
Or perhaps your sarcasm detection is awful
Exactly. Holy shit. This is like a thread for mental patients. Myself included.
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if you haven't noticed, about 80% of the posts on this thread are downright embarrassing tonight:
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Eli is awful..
Sean : 9:03 pm : link : reply
the fact that we have a handful of posters here who flip out at anyone who questions this is a disgrace.
Basically every incompletion is Eli's fault. Every sack. Even when Barkley isn't in the game it is Eli's fault.
you guys sound like a bunch of crying asswipes.
Are you seriously sitting there watching this game and not seeing him play? Is he responsible for every sack? No. Is he responsible for every dropped pass? No.
Is he responsible for EVERY SINGLE BAD PASS and awful check downs? YES! Just admit it already, he's done.
Leave fmic alone..guy has a point.
We absolutely need at least a FG.
Barwin only ever made plays when he was on the Eagles playing the Giants.
We cannot win with glimpses or even an occasional full game
What say you guys? How will we turn the ball over this down?
Fumble, or interception?????
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if you haven't noticed, about 80% of the posts on this thread are downright embarrassing tonight:
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Eli is awful..
Sean : 9:03 pm : link : reply
the fact that we have a handful of posters here who flip out at anyone who questions this is a disgrace.
Basically every incompletion is Eli's fault. Every sack. Even when Barkley isn't in the game it is Eli's fault.
you guys sound like a bunch of crying asswipes.
We have surpassed Cowboys fans as the worst in the NFL.
If only every fan was as great as you. Get off your high horse.
lol. Another bad day for you?
The throw to Shepard where he was tripped is a TD if he isn't tripped, but somehow people blamed Eli for it.
Like I said - embarrassing.
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Eli is awful..
Sean : 9:03 pm : link : reply
the fact that we have a handful of posters here who flip out at anyone who questions this is a disgrace.
Basically every incompletion is Eli's fault. Every sack. Even when Barkley isn't in the game it is Eli's fault.
you guys sound like a bunch of crying asswipes.
FMiC- keep on banging this drum buddy. 4-17 in the last 21 games. And yes, Eli has been awful tonight. Its always someone elses fault.
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Sean : 9:03 pm : link : reply
the fact that we have a handful of posters here who flip out at anyone who questions this is a disgrace.
Basically every incompletion is Eli's fault. Every sack. Even when Barkley isn't in the game it is Eli's fault.
you guys sound like a bunch of crying asswipes.
+1
Could have been 14-10 right there.
Even worse is Eli is coming back on the field now...
Defense with Vernon is much better. We can hang in there if we get a few big plays.
Lets do it
A $22 million finishing piece.
Ponderous I tell you...
Come on man.
Agreed. Bad foul by Shepard.
This game has hours left! And I have to work tomorrow!
Lmao
1st and 20, and 3 dump offs...
Really? Cmon.
Seriously, what are we holding onto? How many more noncompetitive seasons can you stomach?
The field is 200 yards long, as it was last year. All those weapons are going to waste.
yeah that makes sense. he has been our best WR so far this season. Lets bring the pro bowler off of the bench instead. What's that guy's name?
This asshole offense HAS to win on first down. That's when you take a shot or throw the ball more than three yards.
They cannot get into 2nd and 3rd and long.
They're terrible.
I'll need it. :/
Bench him...
Fans have every right to boo
Just a trash stupid fucking ass play
I envy your approach to this game, I'm having a bad night with this game
They look horrendous open your eyes
Don't be stupid. Last I checked, there are 10 other guys on the field and save for Barkley, they all look like shit.
Except in a poster or painting
Put him In the ring of honor but he was done before this year and it is just a disgrace and insult to him and us
Yeah we're great at coming from behind.
Shepard went after Jenkins with that hit, because I think of what happened before....Shurm should have pulled his ass off the field.
Lol.
He does look shook out there. He doesn't want to get hit at all. He used to get smashed and pop right up. Now it's checkdown charlie every play.
Alsox worst specials in league
He absolutely did I saw it
Beckham muffs another punt. We were fortunate it bounced right to him.
Eagle defense probably has a 50/50 chance to score
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Throw the ball!! followed by an F bomb after Elis throw to Latimer.
Indeed. After the play to Latimer.
yep. Shurmur frustrated at Eli too.
Link - ( New Window )
No it's not
I think this should end the Beckham punt return experiment
Trying to play with a scared QB
Here comes another FG attempt
SICK. SICK. SICK.
I think his Hall of Fame chances are dead. No way it happens. He's seen as a Trent Dilfer by non Giants fans and he'll likely finish with a losing career record.
So.....
When is it ok to bail and go to bed???
Waste of some supremely talented players.
Yep. Momentum killers. Always.
The same problems exist. Poor OL play. Eli is being pressured immediately. But he can't move.
We were fortunate to get a roughing the passer penalty.
Gallman is horrible had huge fumble against NO too
Bullshit call, league is soft
the offense just sucks period
and film it
Give it to him 3 times there
99% of Giants fans agree.
He got that f compared to nothing at all
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who would grope a woman when she's passed out
and film it
Then claim racism when charged
All hail Barkley
shut up
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Eli. Nobody is open.
shut up
You're off the handle tonight
They get lots of practice...
I said the same thing to my buddy. All three plays should have been handed to Barkley. Not kidding. Shouldnt have thrown once or looked at any other player. But of course they decide to trust Eli and the OL. SMH
Unreal not to get a TD there with the gift from the refs.
defense is playing well. if the D could score a couple of TDs we could win.
Well see how it goes. Hes going to get at least this year and next to prove he can get it done.
And they get the ball to start the third.
Huge drive defensively here.
What an unlikeable, shit team.
But we'll still have knuckleheads finding ways to say they'll win the next game.
Might be before that
Absolutely!!! There have been many Eli just checked down !
2. Barkley is killing them. Why are we still passing?
Make them stop it?
A bright spot in this game!
They offered the money, have the premium market and have a stud RB. If they get a line and a good qb they can compete for years to come
Sheesh. I mean that's a glaring bias.
I dont disagree with the other parts of your statement but you just cannot say this. There are quite a few guys who can take a step to the left or right and then have a running lane burning the defense for 10 yards or making a play on the run. We are watching a whole new era of QBs do this and with a line that is not good as well. It just looks much worse when you compound a bad line with an immobile QB with happy feet.
season over soon folks...
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And they get the ball to start the third.
Huge drive defensively here.
Defensive fail.
Get Right Game
WIDE OPEN PLAYERS.
Defense steps up again.
Sheesh. I mean that's a glaring bias.
That's a team philosophy problem.
Get Right Game
everyone gets right against giants
yeah reality check. This other shit means nothing in comparison.
need a TD drive here for sure
Yup
In fairness, Wentz was able to buy himself a lot of time.
While we good three and out, or maybe get a first down if Barkley makes an incredible run.
Fuck that, game is four quarters, plus they are pros their game checks will not bounce.
Team sucks, but they should not give up.
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3-3 tonight.
Get Right Game
everyone gets right against giants
Because were just a poor team......its almost embarrassing
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And they get the ball to start the third.
Huge drive defensively here.
Defensive fail.
Never ceases to amaze me how we change players, coaches, and GMs and this team continues to kick our fucking asses.
Just tell Vernon this is a scrimmage. He usually shines in practice.
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And they get the ball to start the third.
Huge drive defensively here.
Defensive fail.
I should goto Vegas.
...when the defender is 30 yards off your receiver
They should be noticed as well as a problem too
Even when we do make a play
55 yard run false start lol
Shurmur. Not Shurmur. I dont think its going to matter the next couple years.
He covered the route just fine and apple looked for the ball. Then the WR freelanced and got himself open. That's what happens with no pass rush.
Third and 10.
ahahha
not excited for the Knicks ?
Let's give the ball back to Philly. Could be 28-6 soon.
Team has it! - ( New Window )
He got a step
And the ball was late and underthrown
Greco was beaten badly.
The OL has been dreadful.
Good job. Good effort.
what the fuck are you talking about he had 2 yards
like firing the GM and the coach? We did that already.
Yeah, it is over. It is sad at this point because people who have shit on him his whole career will use these final lasting memories to say he always sucked. Also, he will finish will career losing record. That boggles my fucking mind
Dont embarrass us with that crap
Our team is so so bad
That would be the first time in his career.
Not that it will make any difference. The defense has given up too
For what reason? So the rookie can get mauled ? They have no offensive line
They are gonna break one tonight.
hahaha
True.
He is not the same player since the injury.
Hope he just needs time. Then, again, he is a NY Giants receiver. The most hazardous profession in the game.
No Giants receiver lasts. They always end up injured and hurt early. He may have fallen prey to the NY Giants receiver curse.
Dont embarrass us with that crap
Our team is so so bad
ha was just thinking same. give it a cpl days and the rah rah threads will appear.
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what the fuck are you talking about he had 2 yards
You're a joke. He had no separation. In fact there was a safety ocer the top but because this coach refuses to run the ball on 1st and stick with it, we get to watch Eli throw into double coverage for the rest of the game...because thrrow it deep.
Peaky Blinders
You will thank me.
My favorite is "he's earned the right to play as long as he wants."
LOL!! Not behind that line!
Dont want to see another post blaming everything and everyone else but Eli or getting upset with posters who dare criticize their idol
Its over and has been for years
He was going for the ball. That flag should never have been thrown.
Eli!? Really? Not gonna happen.
Yeah ok. That's not gonna happen. Eli will sit in the corner looking at his Surface talking to the QB coach.
How can you tell? Looks like the same defense to me.
Frustration setting in on D now......
Who the F is Stupar??????
When did we pick up this individual????
Every time I have heard his name so far it was because he messed up.....
got to stop them FG max
or were toast !
Is it the play calling or Eli?
Then the OL eventually goes south...
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Crazy at halftime...someone needs to step up 20m dollar man needs to put this team on his shoulders...
I know B...but thats what its going to take
Yeah ok. That's not gonna happen. Eli will sit in the corner looking at his Surface talking to the QB coach.
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Crazy at halftime...someone needs to step up 20m dollar man needs to put this team on his shoulders...
Yeah ok. That's not gonna happen. Eli will sit in the corner looking at his Surface talking to the QB coach.
collecting his millions and telling others we need to execute better, or we can wait to hear it on Mike monday
whats worsr that can happen? he sucks? okay...and we pick first overall like we were going to be ANYWAYS.
Dont want to see another post blaming everything and everyone else but Eli or getting upset with posters who dare criticize their idol
Its over and has been for years
Here's an idea. F u.
Eli retire please!!!!
Who the F is Stupar??????
When did we pick up this individual????
Every time I have heard his name so far it was because he messed up.....
You're being "the retard" because you're using that term. Jackass
Eagles havent scored more then. 24 points yet this yea they are going to do it this half smh
whats worsr that can happen? he sucks? okay...and we pick first overall like we were going to be ANYWAYS.
Nah, its time. Eli cant do it. He is starter for the worst team in NFL and looks horrific. It is time.
Doesnt the Rams Head Coach Mcvay call the plays he seems to be doing fine. Andy Reid too
For who? Tanney? Lauletta is inactive
Yea thanks were not having a hard enough time
I think this team is actually worse.,. Im not sure how its possible but they did it
stop blaming the fucking coach. the team has a TON of holes
New York realistically may have three #1 picks next year. Amazing.
How many coaches are we going to fire before looking in another direction for the problem?
^This.
Eli is finished!
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Shurmur isn't much better. Never did I think after having to sit through the shit show that was 2017, would the franchise replace the coach and GM with clones and force us all to sit through the exact same shit show in 2018.
I think this team is actually worse.,. Im not sure how its possible but they did it
No way, I thought Reese was the problem and Gettleman was much better and also responsible for anything good that happened on Reese's watch.
O-line needs work obviously but is not the major issue.
Defense needs another pass rusher at the very least
Personally Id bench Eli and start gett Kyle practice reps this season is over
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Crazy at halftime...someone needs to step up 20m dollar man needs to put this team on his shoulders...
I know B...but thats what its going to take
Yeah ok. That's not gonna happen. Eli will sit in the corner looking at his Surface talking to the QB coach.
Take for what?
This team will laugh at Eli if he goes "apeshit".
Gimme a break.
Agreed
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, HE'S NOT EVEN ACTIVATED TONIGHT!!!!
Right now I'm not that keen on resigning him if I'm the Giants.
It is for this team!
24-6
Were not scoring 19 more points, pretending we hold them the rest of the way.
He cant throw to himself!! Or can he.
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a retread who has no business being a HC again and the quicker we cut bait with this shit, the better of we are
How many coaches are we going to fire before looking in another direction for the problem?
I get its eli, but this team stinks in every facet of the game. We cant field punts, we cant tackle, we our getting outcoached in every way. They made adjustments to our pass rush from the second drive. Eli is problem number one, but the rest of the team sucks, too.
For a Giants turnover.
How many 5 yard passes can he Not complete..
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH...
But noooo. The We can win now! Get Barkley!! crowd kept going on and on, and Gettleman somehow agreed with them.
By the time we have rebuilt a decent team here, Barkley will be falling off a cliff.
SMFH!
i dont get it either
mental error
As long as teams can control our OL with four or five DL, Eli will be throwing against six or seven defenders. That would be mitigated on at least some plays if he was mobile, but it would be difficult for any QB. Even Barkley is routinely hit in the backfield by multiple defenders.
I think Eli is probably done, but the OL can't block.
absolutely not but that 3rd down pass was not even in the same zip code. So.. it seems to go back and forth
Throws screens to Beckham
But noooo. The We can win now! Get Barkley!! crowd kept going on and on, and Gettleman somehow agreed with them.
By the time we have rebuilt a decent team here, Barkley will be falling off a cliff.
SMFH!
Like I said, Barkley is both a great player and also a wasted pick so far.
Baffling
Yep
Bahahaha
Even Rosas is off.
Generational Leg.
Although he has been good, guy last week beat us with one that would be good from 70.
Embarrassing
Baffling
Stupid play call
As long as teams can control our OL with four or five DL, Eli will be throwing against six or seven defenders. That would be mitigated on at least some plays if he was mobile, but it would be difficult for any QB. Even Barkley is routinely hit in the backfield by multiple defenders.
I think Eli is probably done, but the OL can't block.
Not Reese and not Gettleman. Who else is in that front office? Couldn't be Chris Mara could it?
Hes hurt
Stupid ass Jenkins
He has a strained quad. He can definitely kick that far when healthy. He isn't a problem.
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A brain dead play call
Baffling
Stupid play call
Considering Barkley is the only thing that works for the offense, it was worth a fucking shot.
Correct!
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short on a 52 yarder. Fucking A.
Generational Leg.
Although he has been good, guy last week beat us with one that would be good from 70.
It's the first miss in his career beyond 50 and hes got a quad injury.
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short on a 52 yarder. Fucking A.
He has a strained quad. He can definitely kick that far when healthy. He isn't a problem.
Look at our beats he was short from that distance in warmups. We had a timeout, we should have ran it on third down to get him the three yards he needed
I guess you did not know that this kicker came into the game with a leg injury?
no stop...
shurmur should have went for it though....
the 3rd down call was fucking horrible...try and pick up first you have a TO
Waste a run on 1st down no gain bombs away ..
miss the FG ...
Shurmur What the hell are you calling here ..??
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short on a 52 yarder. Fucking A.
Generational Leg.
Although he has been good, guy last week beat us with one that would be good from 70.
He Fucking injured you idiot.
Even more idiotic is knowing your kicker is injured and calling for a kick anyways. Just Fucking go for the first down, asshole.
I'd like to see a young arm like that pushing the ball downfield.
The difference is palpable.
Beckham is a Giants receiver.
Which means he is cursed to an injury shortened pro carear...
Maybe we are seeing the curse in action already?
Eli can't throw it to the EZ here.
After getting 14 targets last week?
That really is a plus!
be more specific...there are too many.
Why do I get the feeling he may not be here for the end of his contract?
Hoooleeeeshhiiit
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short on a 52 yarder. Fucking A.
Generational Leg.
Although he has been good, guy last week beat us with one that would be good from 70.
He Fucking injured you idiot.
Even more idiotic is knowing your kicker is injured and calling for a kick anyways. Just Fucking go for the first down, asshole.
Or if we ran the ball on third, picked up three yards, he probably makes it. Either way, he shouldnt have been out there kicking a field goal from that distance if he was coming up short in warmups. Coaches coach around that, ours didnt.
Usually don't see it until 4TQR...
retire
they know shepard isnt a game breaker and latimer stops running his fucking routes. we have no threat at TE and our best asset is a back playing behind a dogshit OL
eli isnt the problem but def not part of solution, he is done.
2019 move on.
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That's 3 plays in a row eli went deep to Cody Latimer when Odell Beckham also had 1-on-1 coverage. Never even looked at Beckham. Don't tell me Eli doesn't know what Beckham said about him. #PHIvsNYG
After getting 14 targets last week?
Truth hurts
because i heard all week long that we are 1 game out of first place.
How about now folks?
Its probably going to come to that, except Im not sure he starts that game on the road. I think he should get some opportunity over the last Quarter of the season.
We still will have prime time games thanks to playing in NY and having Odell and SB on the team
Why do I get the feeling he may not be here for the end of his contract?
Because he won't be. His signing was a mistake
Why do I get the feeling he may not be here for the end of his contract?
The way he's played so far this season? He's JAG right now.
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Of bullshit prime time games next year
That really is a plus!
Defense gets a pass as there is not much talent- but the O is being held back by the QB and his audibles and or coach who is lost
We will live through the season waiting for a couple of exciting Barkley plays so we have something to feel good about. Maybe every few games OBJ will make a play too.
We are Buffalo Bills fans of the 70s when the team totally sucked but they had OJ Simpson. Never had a real shot at winning anything even with the best player in the league on their roster.
They need a Russel Wilson type and a David Shaw type coach.
Amirite?
They should have just downed the ball and went with Beckham off the field.
Is he really the best in football? Really?
Hoooleeeeshhiiit
He's just going back early to prepare to LEAD!!!
Shurmur needs to bench him for the half.
We will live through the season waiting for a couple of exciting Barkley plays so we have something to feel good about. Maybe every few games OBJ will make a play too.
We are Buffalo Bills fans of the 70s when the team totally sucked but they had OJ Simpson. Never had a real shot at winning anything even with the best player in the league on their roster.
That team at least had an offensive line to block for OJ.
This team isn't even good enough to be the 70s Bills.
SB should be given the captain designation and tell the rest to stop fucking around...
Shurmur needs to bench him for the half.
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Are facing a shitty secondary with the best WR in football
Is he really the best in football? Really?
I'm not convinced Odell is even a good player anymore right now.
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going into the locker room, while offense is on the field?
Why do I get the feeling he may not be here for the end of his contract?
The way he's played so far this season? He's JAG right now.
Hes on pace for over 100 catches
in terms of beckham...
he is right. i hate to say it, but he is dynamic and with a "good" OC and a declining QB and shitty pass pro OL. he cant get the ball...
sucks but all will be fine. we will be drafting 1 overall most likely, if not then top 5 and will move up for herbert
I also agree that Lauletta is likely to play the last part of the season. We need to see him in real games before heading into the offseason with a very high pick.
Aside from the OL, Jenkins and Apple were also unimpressive.
No way! Eli has 8 more years. All in!
Why do they take him off the field after every good play he makes?
I get an upset stomach looking at the money Gettleman gave to the free agents he signed. Think about it. Solder,Omameh,Stewart,Martin,all signed to big money and they all suck.This GM and coach tied themselves to a quarterback who they believed they could win with and that alone should be cause for termination.
Except he's rich...
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That's all.
Its probably going to come to that, except Im not sure he starts that game on the road. I think he should get some opportunity over the last Quarter of the season.
I also don't blame Shurmur. He isn't being asked to block. When your OL is controlled by four or five DL, most passes are a check down, sack, or incompletion.
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going into the locker room, while offense is on the field?
Why do I get the feeling he may not be here for the end of his contract?
The way he's played so far this season? He's JAG right now.
Hes on pace for over 100 catches
Garbage time stats.
I said this about two weeks ago. You cannot give him 35 touches per game. He has never played a 16 game season before. You could get him hurt from fatigue.
I know some of you guys get pissed off when he goes to the sideline but you need to do that with a rookie RB.
Manning will show glimpses because he's a pro and he's not injured. But you are who you are most of the time. And that's bad.
yes and David Carr was never a good QB no matter what OL he could have played behind.
I also don't blame Shurmur. He isn't being asked to block. When your OL is controlled by four or five DL, most passes are a check down, sack, or incompletion.
i agree...obj is pissed. im prob more mad than he is lmao. he wants to win and knows they cant in current state
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Are facing a shitty secondary with the best WR in football
Is he really the best in football? Really?
I'm not convinced Odell is even a good player anymore right now.
How is this comment existing a week after 120 yards and a TD and then throwing for a TD as well. What nonsense.
We still need a new QB though Eli is way past his prime
I get an upset stomach looking at the money Gettleman gave to the free agents he signed. Think about it. Solder,Omameh,Stewart,Martin,all signed to big money and they all suck.This GM and coach tied themselves to a quarterback who they believed they could win with and that alone should be cause for termination.
You can change the faces but until the Maras get out of football decisions this team will be at the bottom.
Ralph Vacchiano
Verified account @RVacchianoSNY
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It doesn't appear that Odell Beckham has come out of the locker room to start the second half.
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going into the locker room, while offense is on the field?
Why do I get the feeling he may not be here for the end of his contract?
The way he's played so far this season? He's JAG right now.
Hes on pace for over 100 catches
Garbage time stats.
So what are Elis?
Ralph Vacchiano
Verified account @RVacchianoSNY
15s16 seconds ago
Odell Beckham just came out of the locker room, shortly after the kickoff.
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It's obvious that we may even be worse then last year when we won only 3 games. This GM and coach need to be fired even after one year. Maybe it's the Mara's or Tisch's fault because they hired this GM and coach. We need to start over AGAIN and this time pick a quarterback.
I get an upset stomach looking at the money Gettleman gave to the free agents he signed. Think about it. Solder,Omameh,Stewart,Martin,all signed to big money and they all suck.This GM and coach tied themselves to a quarterback who they believed they could win with and that alone should be cause for termination.
You can change the faces but until the Maras get out of football decisions this team will be at the bottom.
Amen!!
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going into the locker room, while offense is on the field?
Why do I get the feeling he may not be here for the end of his contract?
The way he's played so far this season? He's JAG right now.
Hes on pace for over 100 catches
Garbage time stats.
So what are Elis?
garbage time? he caught a HUGE TD last week that wasnt garbage time...stupidity runs wild here
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is not the problem. He's just a fiery competitor who lets his emotions rule at inopportune times. The OL (80%) and Eli (20%) are why he can't get the ball.
I also don't blame Shurmur. He isn't being asked to block. When your OL is controlled by four or five DL, most passes are a check down, sack, or incompletion.
i agree...obj is pissed. im prob more mad than he is lmao. he wants to win and knows they cant in current state
Then stop dropping punts!
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Barkley has had a small amount of carries every game. A 2nd overall running back should be a work horse.
I said this about two weeks ago. You cannot give him 35 touches per game. He has never played a 16 game season before. You could get him hurt from fatigue.
I know some of you guys get pissed off when he goes to the sideline but you need to do that with a rookie RB.
A rookie rb has more endurance now than they ever will.
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Are facing a shitty secondary with the best WR in football
Is he really the best in football? Really?
I really dont think that DG had a choice. I am willing to bet the house that Mara insisted that Eli be the QB this year after the fans freaked out over the benching last year.
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is not the problem. He's just a fiery competitor who lets his emotions rule at inopportune times. The OL (80%) and Eli (20%) are why he can't get the ball.
I also don't blame Shurmur. He isn't being asked to block. When your OL is controlled by four or five DL, most passes are a check down, sack, or incompletion.
i agree...obj is pissed. im prob more mad than he is lmao. he wants to win and knows they cant in current state
Then stop dropping punts!
also agree, but he is just trying to do to much. he feels he needs to make every play and doesnt just take the safe route. he knows eli and the OL arent good...he knows we stink as does shurmur and DG.
this rebuild is a process....
herbert and some OL pieces
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It's obvious that we may even be worse then last year when we won only 3 games. This GM and coach need to be fired even after one year. Maybe it's the Mara's or Tisch's fault because they hired this GM and coach. We need to start over AGAIN and this time pick a quarterback.
I get an upset stomach looking at the money Gettleman gave to the free agents he signed. Think about it. Solder,Omameh,Stewart,Martin,all signed to big money and they all suck.This GM and coach tied themselves to a quarterback who they believed they could win with and that alone should be cause for termination.
You can change the faces but until the Maras get out of football decisions this team will be at the bottom.
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is not the problem. He's just a fiery competitor who lets his emotions rule at inopportune times. The OL (80%) and Eli (20%) are why he can't get the ball.
I also don't blame Shurmur. He isn't being asked to block. When your OL is controlled by four or five DL, most passes are a check down, sack, or incompletion.
i agree...obj is pissed. im prob more mad than he is lmao. he wants to win and knows they cant in current state
Then stop dropping punts!
Yup.. ODB was a major reason we were in a 14-3 hole last week. He needs to shut up and do his job.
Lets just not go through all the preseason bullshit if youre not calling it anymore.
So when is it time to replace this bad QB?//
Lets just not go through all the preseason bullshit if youre not calling it anymore.
i would rather it NOT be a penalty.
Fire everyone.
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It is lofic defying the GM thought this QB and team combo was going to compete.
I really dont think that DG had a choice. I am willing to bet the house that Mara insisted that Eli be the QB this year after the fans freaked out over the benching last year.
I'm willing to bet interview question number one was: you're keeping Manning, right?
Also Dave Gettleman is worse than Jerry Reese.
Or maybe tired from so many offensive failures.
yeah but you dont need a mobile QB to win in this league...
Yep. Still mobile.
Get right game.
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Or maybe tired from so many offensive failures.
Nope. Cant blame the offense for this one.
Troy was attempting to be nice regarding their effort
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going into the locker room, while offense is on the field?
Why do I get the feeling he may not be here for the end of his contract?
The way he's played so far this season? He's JAG right now.
Hes on pace for over 100 catches
Garbage time stats.
So what are Elis?
Garbage time stats. I'm no defender of the 2018 version of Eli.
Also Dave Gettleman is worse than Jerry Reese.
no dude.. I think you need to go back to lurking
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It is lofic defying the GM thought this QB and team combo was going to compete.
I really dont think that DG had a choice. I am willing to bet the house that Mara insisted that Eli be the QB this year after the fans freaked out over the benching last year.
I'm willing to bet interview question number one was: you're keeping Manning, right?
There is no doubt in my mind that it was a prerequisite for both the GM and coach gigs
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from halftime.
Or maybe tired from so many offensive failures.
Nope. Cant blame the offense for this one.
OK, dep.
The Eagles may put up a 50 burger on us tonight.
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Think Eli isnt a problem while watching guys like Wentz avoid the rush and make plays, while at the same time attacking Eli haters, is fucking laughable.
Who doesn't think Eli is part of the problem? Seriously? The vast majority of posts tonight are acting like Eli is fucking up what otherwise is a win.
Eli is part of the problem. "Eli haters" think he's the only fucking problem.
Why is this so fucking hard to understand??
I'd offer him zero. He's fool's gold, let another team be fooled.
Paid hard earned money to watch this
His first mistake was agreeing that Eli could be the QB. He should have insisted on a new QB for a new regime.
How does JPP, OV, and Jenkins contracts look now?
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from halftime.
Or maybe tired from so many offensive failures.
Nope. Cant blame the offense for this one.
Is this a serious comment?
Another gem of a post
No way theyre winning next week in ATL either.
When does the locker room bullshit start?
Quiting? They never showed up tonight
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Justlurking : 10:26 pm : link : reply
Think Eli isnt a problem while watching guys like Wentz avoid the rush and make plays, while at the same time attacking Eli haters, is fucking laughable.
Who doesn't think Eli is part of the problem? Seriously? The vast majority of posts tonight are acting like Eli is fucking up what otherwise is a win.
Eli is part of the problem. "Eli haters" think he's the only fucking problem.
Why is this so fucking hard to understand??
On the money again. But if you dont shit on Eli for everything, you are just a defender. Eli's time is over. Even his defenders have said it all year.
But if you point out when other players suck, you get called out for not blaming Eli. This thread was a disgrace.
Collecting paychecks for nothing.
Especially you Jenkins.
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Think Eli isnt a problem while watching guys like Wentz avoid the rush and make plays, while at the same time attacking Eli haters, is fucking laughable.
Who doesn't think Eli is part of the problem? Seriously? The vast majority of posts tonight are acting like Eli is fucking up what otherwise is a win.
Eli is part of the problem. "Eli haters" think he's the only fucking problem.
Why is this so fucking hard to understand??
He's the biggest part of the problem
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Justlurking : 10:26 pm : link : reply
Think Eli isnt a problem while watching guys like Wentz avoid the rush and make plays, while at the same time attacking Eli haters, is fucking laughable.
Who doesn't think Eli is part of the problem? Seriously? The vast majority of posts tonight are acting like Eli is fucking up what otherwise is a win.
Eli is part of the problem. "Eli haters" think he's the only fucking problem.
Why is this so fucking hard to understand??
Eli Manning has been the only starter for what is now the worst offense in the league. I mean it is brutal. It is now very difficult to defend him any longer. He has played since '04 and has been fucking obliterated so many times that it may just be over.
This team also does not try, or can not run the ball in a physical manner. They just refuse, this is with a back who looks all world.
Paid hard earned money to watch this
Its amazing how poorly theyve played at home.
No way theyre winning next week in ATL either.
When does the locker room bullshit start?
Bet after this game
Did everyone play above their heads in 2016???
Of course he will
about what? the fucking obvious? would rather he STFU now
i almost fucking went tonight soooooo glad rain was in forecast and i decided not to
Eli always shows.
He needs to fire himself and his brother.
That being said, Eli might be the biggest problem with this team. It's either him or the offensive line. Both simply suck.
It will never happen, but I would be very happy if Gettleman lost his job in the off-season. He actually believed this team could contend, which is a fireable offense.
The offense has a WR who is one of the 2 or 3 best players at his position in the entire league, and the RB is also one of the 2 or 3 best players at his position in the league, and they are easily one of the worst offenses in the entire league.
Eli sucks just as much as the offensive line does. He is totally finished.
I have no idea what to make of Shurmur, but I have zero confidence whatsoever in DG. His off-season comments are particularly concerning.
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Right now defense is walking ..quiting now
Quiting? They never showed up tonight
Defense was "playing" earlier...not this half so far
Did everyone play above their heads in 2016???
Guess you didnt see him against the Saints.
Did everyone play above their heads in 2016???
2016 was a statistical aberration.
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Right now defense is walking ..quiting now
Quiting? They never showed up tonight
Defense was "playing" earlier...not this half so far
LOL. When were they playing?
The thing is that nobody here can disagree with him. Worst team in the league right now. The "talent on this team" we see tosses around here too often really is all about two players.
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This group already quit...sad
The thing is that nobody here can disagree with him. Worst team in the league right now. The "talent on this team" we see tosses around here too often really is all about two players.
And I'm very skeptical about one of those two right now.
He must condition more so he never has to leave field.
What a play by Beckham from a bad throw by Eli. Anyone still doubt his desire?
And there goes Barkley. TD GIANTS! Too little to late in all likelihood, but man is he electric.
yes agree
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This group already quit...sad
The thing is that nobody here can disagree with him. Worst team in the league right now. The "talent on this team" we see tosses around here too often really is all about two players.
And I'm very skeptical about one of those two right now.
come on man... dont be ridiculous. We have two of the top 20 skill position players in the league on this team. It is just not nearly enough when that is all you have.
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I don't have 100 percent faith that our FO is capable, but it can definitely be done.
yes agree
Yup the guy is beyond special
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Right now defense is walking ..quiting now
Quiting? They never showed up tonight
Defense was "playing" earlier...not this half so far
I gotta disagree. Too many breakdowns in the secondary and piss poor tackling.
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in that he couldnt have had the first idea of what a shitshow he walked into. The layers of garbage leftover from the poor play, losing, bad drafts, bad management, bad characters & bad attitudes in that lockerroom ...it was gonna go bad one way or another. The jettisoning of bodys from last years roster and the continued patchwork bullshit thrown together year after year has fallen so short of a winning ...its a disgrace to see it all play out yet again.
His first mistake was agreeing that Eli could be the QB. He should have insisted on a new QB for a new regime.
Ater the benching of Eli last season, the blowback in the media and from the fans, Mara having to come out of the shadows for damage control and DGs endorsement of Eli, I Just dont think the new head coach had anywhere to go especially not after DGs 1st round pick. I say DG because I do believe he was pulling the strings and Shurm to some degree was the yes man.
nutjob
this is true, that was some play.
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yea i think but ogletree came away with it
Fuck this Website !
This team is so turrible even SB almost can't save me from watching it lol.
Hopefully. Hes been hanging around for a while now.
Yeah that was an horrendous throw...
So very true, he also had a nice block on the run
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Even when they get a break, they really dont. Its laughable.
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Does that answer your question?
No, last weak big runs running behind Hernandez. This week running with pulling Hernandez.
it really is so true
You underestimate incompetence
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Even when they get a break, they really dont. Its laughable.
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Does that answer your question?
Yes, fucking sucks
Ill say it again, defense has shit the bed too tonight.
It is because you make your own breaks. good teams do not rely on luck to win games. If you NEED luck to win then you simply are not a good team...period.
so, while people are looking for a break or a call from the official so we can win... the reality is we suck
Bad coaching.
He has already told you he has like a dozen more handles. Sorry human being, but I guess when you have an old man like that, its to be expected.
What veteran QB throws a pass directly in the center of the field like Eli did to set up the first Eagles TD.
This team will never succeed now or in the next couple of years with Eli as the QB.
Ill say it again, defense has shit the bed too tonight.
this was a total team collapse
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Not sure why but very true.
It is because you make your own breaks. good teams do not rely on luck to win games. If you NEED luck to win then you simply are not a good team...period.
so, while people are looking for a break or a call from the official so we can win... the reality is we suck
Agreed.
Vernon finally gets a sack.
The hidden ball trick would have worked
Now, Im really not sure WTF to say.
Mostly, I suppose, the same thing Joe Buck has to say:
uh-huh.
im not much of a conspiracy theorist. also it wasnt just the giants who called em out, the nfl admitted to the mistake on collins call....
i know they missed two BLATANT holds on eagles last drive that would have killed their drive
It was kind of clear it was over three games in..
His favorite team growing up
He's speaking the truth right now regarding OBJ.
Hope he can ply thru it..
We need his energy on the field.
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Isnover...6 games in ...SMH
I was drunk on kool aid
It was kind of clear it was over three games in..
At least something good happened tonight.
Hope he can ply thru it..
We need his energy on the field.
lol really? the game is over and the season is over.
i hope he can come back and showcase, maybe they can get a pick for him instead of just cutting him
I thought the NFL was going to cut out this shit...
Barks is a star and a leader. Hes the future. So, maybe were the new Lions?
Helps when you have an a Oline and a QB that can make those throws. Their Oline was the best in the league last year and tonight looks very much the part.
Wentz is dicing us up though
Some of our players are confused about the scheme. They would actually be better off if they just played school yard man to man defense right now.
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He probably right that Barks is the undisputed leader of the Giants. Aikman takes a lot of heat for being a homer but I think hes the color guy I like the most.
He's speaking the truth right now regarding OBJ.
What I disagree with is the idea that leaders are determined by contracts. That's complete nonsense. You're either a leader or you're not. Leaders are not always the biggest, strongest, or most talented players.
oh ya. down 18...could have made it a two score game. but our d prob blow it they are gassed
And sit Eli after the bye week!
Rubber from the turf.
Saquon is the leader. Does everything right. Don't see him celebrating his TD's down 31-13. Time to pass on the torch 10. Rebuild this team around 26.
What is the defense exhausted from this half? Not getting stops?
Rubber from turf.
Herbert + Barkley seems kind of worth two shitty seasons..
Were not winning more than 4 games man.. have you watched this season at all?
Hes been hit and miss tonight. Hes had a few balls caught on him that he could have had better coverage on
we have a stud RB
hernandez is improving
apple isnt too bad, he and jenkins should be good enough to win at corner.
vernon looks very good.
ogletree has been pretty good.
we have the #1 pick
What a dope.
How are we sure it hasnt collapsed already? Were headed to 1-7 at the bye.
Challenge now for Shumur
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is keeping this team together after an1-5 start. Season could seriously collapse again. Im not sure how another 3-13 season would go in NY.
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sIMMS11..Not being facetious but you think this outfit will win 2 more games this year? This is Cleveland Browns bad
What a dope.
indicative of today's athletes
also glad that douche got banned
Challenge now for Shumur
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is keeping this team together after an1-5 start. Season could seriously collapse again. Im not sure how another 3-13 season would go in NY.
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sIMMS11..Not being facetious but you think this outfit will win 2 more games this year? This is Cleveland Browns bad
Im not so sure, but I do think theyll win a few more
And look at that pathetic Giant gunner. LOL. He could have had a fumble.
And no one was open.
And look at that pathetic Giant gunner. LOL. He could have had a fumble.
yes my thought exactly wtf was he doing lol he turned his back to play
This game is lost. They should take Eli out just to prevent him from being injured.
yes they lied.. or they were incompetent.
Eh. Why call it now, right?
And look at that pathetic Giant gunner. LOL. He could have had a fumble.
That was sad...shows the effort and IQ level of this team
Sure did
When the announcers also continually say John doe was the "closest receiver" it's pretty sad.
Aid the same thing. Wtf was latimer doing smh
This game is lost. They should take Eli out just to prevent him from being injured.
And to see what Lauletta has, I said this last week and Eli lit the fire
And look at that pathetic Giant gunner. LOL. He could have had a fumble.
Gunner gave up just like the rest Ike the rest of the team.
See, this is the night I think twill kill his career, or status as franchise QB, but on that play he has two guys coming with jailbreak pressure and Barkley kinda got steamrolled and Eli got nailed while trying to step up.
He had no time to even survey field for a throw, let alone physically throw the ball. I mean the play is blown up from the go.
We're stuck with Solder, but I would absolutely get rid of Omameh in the offseason, regardless of the cap hit.
Serious question, is that more on the qb or coach, or option c they both are screwing it up?
These guys are lazy, stupid, and disengaged.
Live ball, and no Giants within 5 yards of it. On a fucking punt.
THIS!!!
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Lstimer and Davis are getting single coverage. Probably at least two and may be three on ODB. Surprised?
He's not pulling double coverage on every play, and you've still gotta take shots. When was the last time a big name WR, a Brown or a Jones, went a full game without a target more than 10 yards downfield? It's...there's not even a fuckng word for it.
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isn't worth .25 right now. Great work, DG. We're stuck with that contract for at least two more years after this season.
This game is lost. They should take Eli out just to prevent him from being injured.
And to see what Lauletta has, I said this last week and Eli lit the fire
Lauletta isn't active, but my guess is we'll see him after Thanksgiving.
So Hernandez and BJ Hill arent good draft choices? Please...
Poorly coached
Bad players
Maybe next year
That was the picture perfect embodiment of our team. I just shook my head watching that douche just mosey On down the field when he could have grabbed the muffed ball. Jesus.
could have been a tunover ..
Eli will be in bed for like 3 days
What a joke the O-line has been ...
He's just shot. He'll retire at the end of the year to avoid an unceremonious release.
Guy has played his bag off since he was signed.
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isn't worth .25 right now. Great work, DG. We're stuck with that contract for at least two more years after this season.
This game is lost. They should take Eli out just to prevent him from being injured.
And to see what Lauletta has, I said this last week and Eli lit the fire
Lauletta isn't active, but my guess is we'll see him after Thanksgiving.
My bad
Why not. Id make him return kicks and play corner.
Fuck that. His ass is working for that paycheck. I wouldnt take him out ever for that price tag and mouth.
they will....
he was a stop gap, DG knew he couldnt add his pieces all in one year so he got a serviacable stop gap
Yeah, that was disgusting effort.
Shouldve kept Jones to be the guard
Imagine playoff teams would be all over:
Snacks
Ogeltree
Jackrabbit
OV
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He's just shot. He'll retire at the end of the year to avoid an unceremonious release.
He really has no business playing this late into his 30s. I love him but he's not brady, brees or his brother. Not sure what he's trying to prove, he's done more then anyone thought. He should retire with his health while he still has it.
The fact that they ignored that and went all in on Eli is very disturbing. They had better not make that mistake again. Eli has to go after this season.
the whole fucking team is bad....except Barkley
Imagine the explosiveness with him as another running option next to Saquon
He doesnt need even a competent O-Line
For the 2016 NFL season, Kaepernick played twelve games and ended the season with 2,241 passing yards, sixteen passing touchdowns, four interceptions and added 468 rushing yards and two rushing touchdowns.
B in ALB : 11:06 pm : link : reply
Snap is telegraphed EVERY FUCKING PLAY!
Jumping the snap every play !
He has David Carr syndrome. He's shell shocked from all the beatings. And there's another sack. Omameh beaten again. He needs to be benched.
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And even that will always be debated. Everything else he has done has been the wrong decision. I didn't think it possible Mara would replace McAdoo/Reese with clones. But here we are.
So Hernandez and BJ Hill arent good draft choices? Please...
Sure. And Beckham was a good draft choice for Reese. But in the end what difference does it make? DG sat up there and mocked the direction the NFL (including the perennial winners) scouting departments were headed in. And this is the guy we trust with rebuilding from scratch?
I wonder if they'll bench Omameh for Pulley next week, or use Pully at center, and put Greco at guard. Evan Brown is another guy we may see by the end of the year.
Stewart and Omameh signings worse DG decisions yet
Imagine playoff teams would be all over:
Snacks
Ogeltree
Jackrabbit
OV
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This is MLB. You can't just start unloading players left and right in the NFL with the salary cap.
Seriously what the fuck! He barely looks anywhere else.
Bullshit. He could at least hit Barkley in the numbers on a dumpoff when he's under no pressure, but he throws it at Barkley' s shoes instead
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Wtf do people want him to do? Hes literally under siege on every play. Gimme a break.
Bullshit. He could at least hit Barkley in the numbers on a dumpoff when he's under no pressure, but he throws it at Barkley' s shoes instead
Haha, greg, then he gets shit on for being a checkdown guy. Its unreal
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Wtf do people want him to do? Hes literally under siege on every play. Gimme a break.
Bullshit. He could at least hit Barkley in the numbers on a dumpoff when he's under no pressure, but he throws it at Barkley' s shoes instead
But feet are the hands of your legs
And how is that not PI
Why would I be dumb enough to spend money on this game
Are you assuming it's gender?
I thought I was dreaming. Am I?
Even on 4th down
You fucking buffoon.
Congrats nfl.
And we thought John Jerry was bad good lord
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I thought I was dreaming. Am I?
They have a female on the crew. Only one in the NFL
Agree and not just that... but coach needs to make the decision for him and just leave Gallman in now for whatever is left
You fucking buffoon.
But it's survival of the fittest. He's actually quoting the rule book there.
Not that it would make any difference.
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I paid a hefty sum to come all the way to Met Life and watch this shit..the Giants weren't even competitive. Anybody know where I can get a refund? I just got ripped off big fucking time....email Giants Corporate? Anybody know? Fucking serious...Thanks
Why would I be dumb enough to spend money on this game
Gotta feel for PSL payees that are individual fans for paying the Madoffs, sorry Maras.Actually one in the same
-Papa
Of course
Get Right Game
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Yeah. Great defensive play. When the DB has a grip of the jersey under the armpit.
You fucking buffoon.
But it's survival of the fittest. He's actually quoting the rule book there.
I couldn't believe he said survival of the fittest - that's how you know Perreira is a fraud.
They're an embarrassment.
He indeed is a part of the culture we're supposed to be getting rid of.
Remember when she awarded the redskins a fumble even though Duke Johnson had teh ball and was out of the pile with it?
They're an embarrassment.
Yep, she was the one who fucked up the Duke Johnson fumble in that Redskins-Browns game a year or two back.
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I paid a hefty sum to come all the way to Met Life and watch this shit..the Giants weren't even competitive. Anybody know where I can get a refund? I just got ripped off big fucking time....email Giants Corporate? Anybody know? Fucking serious...Thanks
Why would I be dumb enough to spend money on this game
Gotta feel for PSL payees that are individual fans for paying the Madoffs, sorry Maras.Actually one in the same
you guys keep seeing me on the game threads because I keep selling my tickets. Not paying a few hundred dollars to watch bad football.
Theyve been a fucking disgrace...
I hope Mara stuck around long enough to hear the obnoxious E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles! chant in his stadium.
Its coming. Get rid of a lot of bad players in this offseason. More coming this offseason.
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Not a half-assed one. Enough.
Its coming. Get rid of a lot of bad players in this offseason. More coming this offseason.
I hope you mean like 98% of the team.
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Not a half-assed one. Enough.
Its coming. Get rid of a lot of bad players in this offseason. More coming this offseason.
I hope you mean like 98% of the team.
Barkley and Hernandez can stay.
I actually do not hate this eagles team. The coach is a good guy. None of the players are assholes. They are just a good team.
Theyve been a fucking disgrace...
I hope Mara stuck around long enough to hear the obnoxious E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles! chant in his stadium.
Yea, Carl..... WE gave it 4 weeks and still sucks
Scrambled Eggs Aikman would be perfect with Elmer Fudds voice
Hes handing off. Who cares?
If cox has been penetrating him all night, shows you what Omameh is
And the O is probably the worst in the league on 3rd down too.
Insult to injury.
Insult to injury.
why does that matter? Does it mean anything?
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the all-time milestone.
Insult to injury.
why does that matter? Does it mean anything?
Yes. It would have.
Its never - NEVER - been done. In the history of the franchise.
Never know. Could be a Hall if Famer.
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the all-time milestone.
Insult to injury.
why does that matter? Does it mean anything?
Yes. It would have.
Its never - NEVER - been done. In the history of the franchise.
but it doesn't mean anything. It is about winning. Records and stats are for fans.
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getting out of bounds.....
in the first half when they needed the yards he hops out of bounds. When they need him to get out of bounds he turns it up field.
He was in a rush to get to the locker room like at halftime.