I keep seeing the game thread littered with people saying that there are a bunch of posters who don't think Eli is part of the problem and all they are doing is attacking "Eli haters".
Who doesn't think Eli is part of the problem? Seriously? The vast majority of posts tonight are acting like Eli is fucking up what otherwise is a win.
Eli is part of the problem. "Eli haters" think he's the only fucking problem. There are several problems on this team but simple-minded nimwits keep trying to pigeon-hole it into a debate that if you don't want Eli tarred and feathered, you are a "fanboy" and the stance that Eli is the problem with this team has to be acknowledged.
It doesn't. The team stinks right now is all aspects.
Why is this so fucking hard to understand??
Therefore both are the problem.
Eli is a problem. A big problem. Perhaps he's the weak link. But he's far from the only problem.
He is also football old and has been punished physically for one and one half decades.
Obviously a ton of the posts are asinine and unfair. Maybe even most of the posts. But there’s some small amount of it that’s deserved.
It's the notion that Eli is the sole reason why we're not winning games
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Calling out his play does not make someone an Eli hater. That is a bullshit narrative.
It's the notion that Eli is the sole reason why we're not winning games
The fact remains he is part of the problem. An immobile, shell shocked QB on this team is a recipe for disaster! And him being as experienced as he is playing the most important position in football makes his impact on the game larger than most. And he just cant lead this team any more.
I like Eli but his time up.
He is also football old and has been punished physically for one and one half decades.
I don’t think the Giants are the new Browns. I still don’t. I approach every game as if the Giants can win it, even though they might not. I don’t think that the Browns fans ever thought that.
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Calling out his play does not make someone an Eli hater. That is a bullshit narrative.
It's the notion that Eli is the sole reason why we're not winning games
And that there was another QB available in the draft or free agency who'd be doing better at the moment.
Josh - accept that we drafted Barkley.
Why the fuck is that so difficult to get over?? The guy is fucking amazing.
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Calling out his play does not make someone an Eli hater. That is a bullshit narrative.
It's the notion that Eli is the sole reason why we're not winning games
Where is anyone saying he's the sole reason we're losing?
You cannot play football at any level if you don’t have an OL. This offense sucks and it sucks for one reason. It is the clear worst OL in football for the second straight season. Maybe Manning is a negative. But it’s a moot point since they would be 1-5 regardless of who was playing QB.
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This team def has other issues but Eli has been consistently horrendous for 6 years straight and that’s the one constant. Accept it.
Josh - accept that we drafted Barkley.
Why the fuck is that so difficult to get over?? The guy is fucking amazing.
Not sure where this one came from either, as Josh has been blaming Eli for the team's offensive woes since Barkley was in high school.
I don't think anyone is saying this is a 5-1 roster. But this is a god awful 1-5 team.
29 other QBs could make this a respectable 1-5
20 other QBs could make this a 3-3 team
IMO
he just simply can not move, and he is not accurate whem he gets time
We are so far from compteting I genuinely genuinely think we should try and trade many of our biggest supposed assets. Beckham, Collins, Jenkins, and Vernon to name a few. Sure their contracts make it tough, but I would entertain offers for sure.
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this is exactly the shit that gets said:
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This team def has other issues but Eli has been consistently horrendous for 6 years straight and that’s the one constant. Accept it.
Josh - accept that we drafted Barkley.
Why the fuck is that so difficult to get over?? The guy is fucking amazing.
Not sure where this one came from either, as Josh has been blaming Eli for the team's offensive woes since Barkley was in high school.
Yep, I’ve been blaming eli for this team’s offensive woes since eli started deserving the blame for this team’s offensive woes. The rest of you guys are finally starting to realize that maybe I was right. As much as I love him for those two super bowl runs, smart fans can’t be blinded by bias and have to admit what their eyes tell them. Not what the heart wants to believe.
Not everyone. Just a select few. Must have ring hime a little bit for you.
Fix the line, Eli would be better, put a mobile quarterback like Wentz behind that line, and the offense would probably be better.
There's plenty of blame to go around.
The posts that totally absolve or blame Eli, are equally ridiculous.
Fix the line, Eli would be better, put a mobile quarterback like Wentz behind that line, and the offense would probably be better.
There's plenty of blame to go around.
The posts that totally absolve or blame Eli, are equally ridiculous.
the offensive line would need to be a brick wall
I do not, however, agree with the tone that this post uses to attack those with a differing opinion. This seems to be like the pot calling the kettle black. I believe that both "sides" of the Eli debate use hyperbole and attack the character of posters instead of using stats and logic. I can understand how short sighted view points can get annoying, but I've never seen anybody win a debate or prove a point during a discussion just by insulting another person.
Love Eli but he stinks right now. You can’t shake the feeling that if a GM was brought in from “outside the box” that they would have pushed strongly for some kind of move in the offseason. The coach literally yelled “throw the ball” and waved his hand down the field. Our o line sucks, our defense sucks, but unfortunately right now the quarterback sucks.
He cannot make a play. The first Wentz TD pass is something Eli absolutely wouldn’t be able to do under any circumstances right now. The precious few times he does get solid protection, he’s looking to dump the ball off, which is what set Shurmur off on the sideline. It won’t help because the team is broken but I bet the wheels are turning for some kind of move (whether it’s the “we’re gonna get Lauletta some time in the second half of games if the score permits” or something more drastic).
That’s not what he said. At all. It’s people saying he’s the ONLY reason the team sucks, there are plenty here.
How to straighten all this ...how? Is the big question. After trying year after year now. Major problem
Disingenuous.
Everyone WANTED Eli to succeed but many SAW that he likely was done. They at the same time as wanting Eli to succeed, wanted to draft his replacement. They probably also love Saquon (as I do - I mean, how can you not) but realize this is a QB driven league and great RBs can only do so much and, importantly, can only last so long.
This is what happens when you're old, immobile and play behind a line that allows you to be hit 10-12 times a game.
It's over for Eli, LAST week was his last hurrah , but when Eli threw it directly to the Saint coverage...TWICE, it was over.
I may be giving Beckham to much credit here but I think he's mad at the same things we are, the D has given up and walks through the plays, this Oline is abysmal and Eli's play has deteriorated