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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/11/2018 11:28 pm
This will be a joyous thread.
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christian : 10/11/2018 11:29 pm : link
If this doesn't performance doesn't portend to a very big change, I fear nothing will.
Shouldnt be much to say  
dep026 : 10/11/2018 11:30 pm : link
1. QB is done
2. OBJ is still selfish.
3. Defense is one of the worst in football.
4. OL is disgustingly bad.
5. Barkley is very very very good.
Giant D was fine  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/11/2018 11:30 pm : link
Except on third down when it was abysmal.
This is the night  
rocco8112 : 10/11/2018 11:30 pm : link
Eli's career died. His status as a franchise QB is gone. Still the man though.

This season is now going to go nuclear. Best thing will be a lock for top three or four pick, maybe one overall. Just hope the GM knows what he doing. Shurmur will be tested big time too and he has not filled me with confidence thus far.
Giants will play prominently in  
St. Jimmy : 10/11/2018 11:31 pm : link
the Eagles' 2018 highlight video.
How will this org right itself  
micky : 10/11/2018 11:32 pm : link
to making football fun again?

I get theres dark times..but this day and age turnarounds are usually quick..but this has been disconcerting as to why it's not heading th ..as t way yet.
...  
christian : 10/11/2018 11:33 pm : link
Even Mara in the suite can hear these Eagles chants in his stadium.
The Eagles should send the Giants a Christmas card  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/11/2018 11:33 pm : link
later this year for getting them right.
Really  
Reb8thVA : 10/11/2018 11:33 pm : link
How is the organization stem the meltdown that is almost certain to ensue after rhis week?
Lot of shit in recent seasons  
bceagle05 : 10/11/2018 11:34 pm : link
but this feels like rock bottom. Nationally televised ass-kicking, Eli getting booed, Odell being Odell, defense playing half speed, OL getting run over. To quote Tyrion Lannister, "We've come to a dark place."
Saquon's weekly highlight reel  
bceagle05 : 10/11/2018 11:35 pm : link
should be a fun watch, at least.
Well this is a new low. This felt different, can't explain it.  
j_rud : 10/11/2018 11:37 pm : link
Just rock fucking bottom. How low does this go? Fist fights in the locker room? Players losing it with reporters? I got a bad feeling this is going to be historically, unforgettably bad.
Was literally never a game. Outclassed.  
The_Boss : 10/11/2018 11:37 pm : link
Team blows cock. Another loss to Philly. Eli now a stellar 10-18 vs them in his career.

I’m curious if any cowards in that locker room shit on Shurmur and/or Eli anonymously through that POS Josina Anderson.
The Giants have to sit down  
Chris684 : 10/11/2018 11:38 pm : link
and talk about getting Lauletta ready to play following the BYE week.

Trade deadline is October 30th and Gettleman should explore moving any and everyone not named Saquon Barkley out of here.

Suspend Beckham a week for conduct detrimental to the team.

Play this out and lock up another top pick.
Eli threw for more yards than Wentz  
Jints in Carolina : 10/11/2018 11:38 pm : link
so he had a better game right?

That's where stats are misleading.
sit down Saquon until next year  
wigs in nyc : 10/11/2018 11:38 pm : link
I’m half joking
The Giants had the better running back.  
St. Jimmy : 10/11/2018 11:38 pm : link
The Eagles had the better quarterback.
Please dont give the defense a pass  
Bramton1 : 10/11/2018 11:38 pm : link
They rarely could make a stop.

Anyone not named Saquon Barkley needs to take a good hard look in the mirror.
Like every game this season  
Anakim : 10/11/2018 11:38 pm : link
The only bright spots were Saquon and Wynn. Vernon looked good at times and it was nice that he was finally out there.
just bad  
giantfan2000 : 10/11/2018 11:38 pm : link
even though we have different coaches - different players
Giants still playing the same type of game

many many talented individual players  
wigs in nyc : 10/11/2018 11:39 pm : link
but the team is less than the sum of its parts
Was there any aspect of this game  
Reb8thVA : 10/11/2018 11:39 pm : link
Where we weren’t overmatched?
Not much to say.......  
Simms11 : 10/11/2018 11:39 pm : link
Pitiful performance. Oline terrible, Receivers couldn’t get open, CBs couldn’t cover a cold, STs couldn’t tackle. Rinse, repeat.....same thing every week.
A  
AcidTest : 10/11/2018 11:39 pm : link
lot of players are playing themselves off the team.

Stewart obviously won't be back. I don't think Omameh will be either. Vernon, Jenkins, Apple, and yes, possibly Eli, might also be gone. By the time this team is ready to compete, Eli will be 39 or 40.

Elli is too immobile. Today's NFL requires a much more mobile QB. When he does have time, he misses too many throws. I think we''ll see Lauletta by Thanksgiving.

The OL is just awful. It's a jailbreak on every play. We're stuck with Solder, and Hernandez has played well for a rookie. Everyone else can go. For this season, I'd bench Omameh, and use Pully at center, with Greco at guard.

On defense, we need pass rushers, and DBs, especially a safety, but also at least one good boundary corner.
The good thing about rock bottom is there's nowhere to go  
jcn56 : 10/11/2018 11:39 pm : link
but up. Of course, if you hit bottom hard enough, it might take you awhile to get back up.
it can only get better?  
mpinmaine : 10/11/2018 11:39 pm : link
I got nothing.

numb
RE: Giant D was fine  
Bill L : 10/11/2018 11:40 pm : link
In comment 14122174 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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Except on third down when it was abysmal.
this defense has been horrible all year. People look at them as if they’re better than they’d really are because they’ve had a couple games where they let teams march down the field but held them to FGs in the red zone. And they got plaudits for being tough.

Over the last two seasons if you count the number of times where they got a stop when they needed one, especially the last drive of the games, you’d need one hand to do it.
Would love to see them try  
Jay in Toronto : 10/11/2018 11:40 pm : link
Stanton at TE

Could solve two problems.
this game was over before it started  
Jints in Carolina : 10/11/2018 11:40 pm : link
totally outclassed.
Of course the defense also looks pretty good  
Bill L : 10/11/2018 11:41 pm : link
Because we compare it to the offense. I guess good or bad is all relative.
Off the top of my head...  
j_rud : 10/11/2018 11:41 pm : link
-Omameh was every bit as bad as Jerry
-Latimer jogs right by a turnover bc he's not disciplined enough to play through the whistle
-Zero targets for Beckham of more than 10 yards
-Oh yeah, and he's an asshole
-It's Eli AND the line. Not one or the other. With that said, the checkdowns became comical
RE: Was there any aspect of this game  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/11/2018 11:41 pm : link
In comment 14122291 Reb8thVA said:
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Where we weren’t overmatched?
RB
RE: Shouldnt be much to say  
EricJ : 10/11/2018 11:41 pm : link
In comment 14122168 dep026 said:
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1. QB is done
2. OBJ is still selfish.
3. Defense is one of the worst in football.
4. OL is disgustingly bad.
5. Barkley is very very very good.


We can add that the jury is still out on every coach on this team.
1-5..  
Sean : 10/11/2018 11:42 pm : link
4-18 in the last 22 games.
Under Eli's time as the QB  
Fishmanjim57 : 10/11/2018 11:42 pm : link
The Giants have been abysmal against Philly. I knew this game was going to be a disaster, as well as the remainder of this season.
This team will never be good again with Eli as the starting QB.
He's done.....and the Giants are done.
It's sickening!
Well Dep  
seanr : 10/11/2018 11:42 pm : link
Give us your analysis!
RE: RE: Giant D was fine  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/11/2018 11:43 pm : link
In comment 14122304 Bill L said:
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In comment 14122174 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:


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Except on third down when it was abysmal.

this defense has been horrible all year. People look at them as if they’re better than they’d really are because they’ve had a couple games where they let teams march down the field but held them to FGs in the red zone. And they got plaudits for being tough.

Over the last two seasons if you count the number of times where they got a stop when they needed one, especially the last drive of the games, you’d need one hand to do it.

It was semi-sarcasm...
Takeaways  
WillVAB : 10/11/2018 11:44 pm : link
1. OL needs work next year. Not just a guy or two. They need quality.

2. The defense needs play makers. They need pass rushers in the worst way.

3. The corners on this team can’t tackle worth a shit. They can’t fight through blocks worth a shit.

4. Sterling Sheppard is a mediocre WR. Invisible when it matters.

5. Barkley is the best back in the league.
RE: Under Eli's time as the QB  
The_Boss : 10/11/2018 11:44 pm : link
In comment 14122340 Fishmanjim57 said:
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The Giants have been abysmal against Philly. I knew this game was going to be a disaster, as well as the remainder of this season.
This team will never be good again with Eli as the starting QB.
He's done.....and the Giants are done.
It's sickening!


10-18.

Latimer  
NDMedics : 10/11/2018 11:44 pm : link
On that punt muff speaks volumes to me.
Anyone want to break down the division race now?  
bceagle05 : 10/11/2018 11:44 pm : link
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RE: many many talented individual players  
bradshaw44 : 10/11/2018 11:45 pm : link
In comment 14122289 wigs in nyc said:
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but the team is less than the sum of its parts


Are there really? I’m beginning to have my doubts.
RE: Giant D was fine  
Eman11 : 10/11/2018 11:46 pm : link
In comment 14122174 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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Except on third down when it was abysmal.
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Umm no, they were horrible on 1st down too. How many 2nd and shorts did the Eagles have? Seemed like it was near every damn series.
RE: Anyone want to break down the division race now?  
Fishmanjim57 : 10/11/2018 11:46 pm : link
In comment 14122385 bceagle05 said:
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Giants will remain in the cellar
When was the last time the Giants came out and laid one on a team  
j_rud : 10/11/2018 11:46 pm : link
from the jump like the Eagles did tonight? The last time a game was never in doubt and the Giamts simply outclassed someone?
RE: Takeaways  
The_Boss : 10/11/2018 11:47 pm : link
In comment 14122373 WillVAB said:
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1. OL needs work next year. Not just a guy or two. They need quality.

2. The defense needs play makers. They need pass rushers in the worst way.

3. The corners on this team can’t tackle worth a shit. They can’t fight through blocks worth a shit.

4. Sterling Sheppard is a mediocre WR. Invisible when it matters.

5. Barkley is the best back in the league.


Barkley is damn good. Fox was comparing him to Barry Sanders early in the game. Lion fans will tell you he was awesome in the late 80’s-mid 90’s. They’ll also tell you the team blew ass in that time period.
Watching Antrel Rolle on the postgame  
Chris684 : 10/11/2018 11:47 pm : link
Really missing the days of men like him on this team.

RE: The Giants have to sit down  
FStubbs : 10/11/2018 11:48 pm : link
In comment 14122269 Chris684 said:
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and talk about getting Lauletta ready to play following the BYE week.

Trade deadline is October 30th and Gettleman should explore moving any and everyone not named Saquon Barkley out of here.

Suspend Beckham a week for conduct detrimental to the team.

Play this out and lock up another top pick.


Beckham should be the first guy up for trade.
according to Shurmur Beckham had dehydration  
Jints in Carolina : 10/11/2018 11:49 pm : link
and that's why he left the field.

Hmmmmmmmmm
One more lost season  
Mike from Ohio : 10/11/2018 11:49 pm : link
of Giants football. That is started to become the norm. This is a very poorly run team and it starts higher than Gettleman.
RE: according to Shurmur Beckham had dehydration  
micky : 10/11/2018 11:50 pm : link
In comment 14122436 Jints in Carolina said:
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and that's why he left the field.

Hmmmmmmmmm


Sorry...I cant believe that...excuse
Shurmur is not concerned about Eli  
Jints in Carolina : 10/11/2018 11:50 pm : link
He's the only one.
Shurmur is getting pissed off now  
Jints in Carolina : 10/11/2018 11:51 pm : link
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RE: One more lost season  
The_Boss : 10/11/2018 11:52 pm : link
In comment 14122438 Mike from Ohio said:
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of Giants football. That is started to become the norm. This is a very poorly run team and it starts higher than Gettleman.


They might be the worst team in the league this year. They’ve been among the worst teams for years actually.
RE: RE: according to Shurmur Beckham had dehydration  
LeftHook : 10/11/2018 11:52 pm : link
In comment 14122443 micky said:
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In comment 14122436 Jints in Carolina said:


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and that's why he left the field.

Hmmmmmmmmm



Sorry...I cant believe that...excuse
Diva hydration
RE: Shurmur is not concerned about Eli  
BleedBlue : 10/11/2018 11:52 pm : link
In comment 14122448 Jints in Carolina said:
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He's the only one.


where are you watching?
Eli with his same old post game talk  
Jints in Carolina : 10/11/2018 11:53 pm : link
I am sorry this shit is old.
I'm still on the fence  
CT Charlie : 10/11/2018 11:53 pm : link
about the effect of Beckham's temperament on the team, but he played hard even after the game was lost.
RE: RE: Shurmur is not concerned about Eli  
Jints in Carolina : 10/11/2018 11:54 pm : link
In comment 14122461 BleedBlue said:
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In comment 14122448 Jints in Carolina said:


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He's the only one.



where are you watching?


WFAN radio postgame online.
RE: RE: Takeaways  
WillVAB : 10/11/2018 11:54 pm : link
In comment 14122414 The_Boss said:
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In comment 14122373 WillVAB said:


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1. OL needs work next year. Not just a guy or two. They need quality.

2. The defense needs play makers. They need pass rushers in the worst way.

3. The corners on this team can’t tackle worth a shit. They can’t fight through blocks worth a shit.

4. Sterling Sheppard is a mediocre WR. Invisible when it matters.

5. Barkley is the best back in the league.



Barkley is damn good. Fox was comparing him to Barry Sanders early in the game. Lion fans will tell you he was awesome in the late 80’s-mid 90’s. They’ll also tell you the team blew ass in that time period.


It’s a different era.

I think the organization is a year away from being in the mix. They’re just going to have to be sharp in FA and have another good draft.
are we stuck with Omameh for next year?  
Dave in PA : 10/11/2018 11:54 pm : link
Realistically, does it make any business sense to cut him after this season?
post game  
LeftHook : 10/11/2018 11:54 pm : link
on msg channel
How isthis team an improvement over 2016?  
D_Giants : 10/11/2018 11:55 pm : link
OL is worse. No Pugh, Jones, Fluker, or Richburg. Highest paid LT i n the league, solder, is mediocre to bad. Using $90M man to return punts because Gettleman dumps Sharp? Andrew Adams, who started in 2016, in a defense that was far superior to this one, replaced with Riley? Riley would not be on any other roster, let alone starting. The talent level on this team, with the obvious exception of Barkley, is worse than the past two years. Gettlebelly and Shurmur are not rebuilding or playing for immediate success; they eliminated much of the superior talent and replaced it with inferior talent. This “game” is insulting to Giants fans.

The season is over in mid-October, and the team as it is cannot beat anyone. So....play some hungry players like Lauletta. Bring back Martin as RB and try pkayers whom Gettleman and Shurmur summarily dumped from the roster. Play them. This roster is terrible, and the front office and coaches are even worse.
RE: Saquon's weekly highlight reel  
NoGainDayne : 10/11/2018 11:55 pm : link
In comment 14122237 bceagle05 said:
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should be a fun watch, at least.


Lol I was thinking the same thing! The only silver lining.
RE: Was there any aspect of this game  
St. Jimmy : 10/11/2018 11:55 pm : link
In comment 14122291 Reb8thVA said:
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Where we weren’t overmatched?
Running back.
....  
BleedBlue : 10/11/2018 11:56 pm : link
its not OBJ, its not the coach.

guys...its eli....

the OL sucks i agree and up until this point i am an eli defender to death but he just doesnt have it anymore...he is slow, has accuracy issues, doesnt trust arm, doesnt trust OL. he just overall doesnt look like he has it anymore....

i think 2019 they go hard after the QB of their choice, altho may not have to do anything, we could be picking #1
RE: RE: The Giants have to sit down  
Simpleman in Tx : 10/11/2018 11:56 pm : link
In comment 14122432 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14122269 Chris684 said:


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and talk about getting Lauletta ready to play following the BYE week.

Trade deadline is October 30th and Gettleman should explore moving any and everyone not named Saquon Barkley out of here.

Suspend Beckham a week for conduct detrimental to the team.

Play this out and lock up another top pick.



Beckham should be the first guy up for trade.


This team without Beckham won't go far.. you can't give up on his kind of talent
RE: according to Shurmur Beckham had dehydration  
The_Boss : 10/11/2018 11:56 pm : link
In comment 14122436 Jints in Carolina said:
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and that's why he left the field.

Hmmmmmmmmm


I have a feeling some in the media won’t buy that. Francesa in particular.

Pat Shurmur 11-28 as a HC  
Sean : 10/11/2018 11:57 pm : link
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Not enough pass rushers  
bc4life : 10/11/2018 11:57 pm : link
actually just Vernon. Offensive line was abysmal. I can understand struggling with Cox & co. but at least make the effort.

Oline is most pressing need.
RE: Latimer  
j_rud : 10/11/2018 11:57 pm : link
In comment 14122383 NDMedics said:
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On that punt muff speaks volumes to me.


"Love the effort"

-Jay Cutler
RE: RE: many many talented individual players  
FStubbs : 10/11/2018 11:57 pm : link
In comment 14122394 bradshaw44 said:
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In comment 14122289 wigs in nyc said:


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but the team is less than the sum of its parts



Are there really? I’m beginning to have my doubts.


More than doubt. Talent? This team is the worst in the NFL. We have a lot of overrated players.

Landon Collins and Sterling Shepard are JAGs.

Omameh is worse than John Jerry. Jaguar fans were laughing at us the same way we laugh at the Bengals for starting Bobby Hart.

Bill Belichick knows when to get rid of players. Nate Solder is in decline.

Odell Beckham isn't the same player. He's lost a step. He has a lot of empty stats this year.

Janoris Jenkins has checked out of this team.
RE: Pat Shurmur 11-28 as a HC  
j_rud : 10/11/2018 11:59 pm : link
In comment 14122508 Sean said:
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He got more out of the Browns. Let that sink in for a minute and fight the urge to chug some bleach
you can blame Eli  
bc4life : 10/11/2018 11:59 pm : link
but when your hits & sacks are in double figures - you're going to struggle.
RE: RE: RE: The Giants have to sit down  
FStubbs : 10/11/2018 11:59 pm : link
In comment 14122496 Simpleman in Tx said:
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In comment 14122432 FStubbs said:


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In comment 14122269 Chris684 said:


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and talk about getting Lauletta ready to play following the BYE week.

Trade deadline is October 30th and Gettleman should explore moving any and everyone not named Saquon Barkley out of here.

Suspend Beckham a week for conduct detrimental to the team.

Play this out and lock up another top pick.



Beckham should be the first guy up for trade.



This team without Beckham won't go far.. you can't give up on his kind of talent


We're 1-5 so we aren't going anywhere with him so is.

And my point is I'm not seeing that talent this year. I think he's lost a step.
RE: RE: RE: many many talented individual players  
BleedBlue : 10/12/2018 12:00 am : link
In comment 14122522 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14122394 bradshaw44 said:


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In comment 14122289 wigs in nyc said:


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but the team is less than the sum of its parts



Are there really? I’m beginning to have my doubts.



More than doubt. Talent? This team is the worst in the NFL. We have a lot of overrated players.

Landon Collins and Sterling Shepard are JAGs.

Omameh is worse than John Jerry. Jaguar fans were laughing at us the same way we laugh at the Bengals for starting Bobby Hart.

Bill Belichick knows when to get rid of players. Nate Solder is in decline.

Odell Beckham isn't the same player. He's lost a step. He has a lot of empty stats this year.

Janoris Jenkins has checked out of this team.



okay collins isnt a jag thats insane. obj hasnt lost a step, he is being double covered and no other WR scares the defense so he sees doubles all day....manning cant make the tight throws anymore....there is more to this ythan just beckhams ability...
It is kind of sad that  
NoGainDayne : 10/12/2018 12:00 am : link
Beckham is not injured. We added what looks to be the best RB in the league added the highest paid Offensive lineman in the league and have legitimately the best rookie lineman in the league. Oh and added an “offensive guru” somehow this offense is worse. That’s offensive.
RE: Not much to say.......  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/12/2018 12:02 am : link
In comment 14122294 Simms11 said:
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Pitiful performance. Oline terrible, Receivers couldn’t get open, CBs couldn’t cover a cold, STs couldn’t tackle. Rinse, repeat.....same thing every week.


Don't give me that "receivers don't get open" horseshit. There was an open receiver (Shepard) on the 2nd play of the game when Eli decided to jam the ball into the TE, leading to the INT.

- They threw 3 passes beyond the first down marker to Odell and 2 of them were terrible passes.
- They had 1st & 20 after the Shepard penalty and proceeded to throw 3 passes a grand total of 4 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.

The offensive line looks exactly the same as last year, but with 5 new starters. How is that even possible?
Think that  
darren in pdx : 10/12/2018 12:03 am : link
this is the game that pretty much ends Eli's career as a Giant. They're more than likely going to have a top 5 pick again this offseason so they'll be even more of a laughing stock if they don't take a QB..
RE: RE: RE: RE: The Giants have to sit down  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/12/2018 12:03 am : link
In comment 14122539 FStubbs said:
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And my point is I'm not seeing that talent this year. I think he's lost a step.


No one thought that after week 1 when he whipped Jalen Ramsey's ass.
I honestly expected the game to be relatively close .  
Bluesbreaker : 10/12/2018 12:04 am : link
Offensive line couldn't pass block at all ..
Eli got the crap beat out of him and I don't recall anyone
wide open . With no TE we were hampered .
Barkley OBJ 22 targets

So they double up OBJ and Barkley got mostly dump-offs
With no TE to worry about and getting down two TD's Early
we abandoned the run .If Lattimer is gonna continue to start they have to use him more .
Wentz is a great QB and he had all night to throw .
They beat us in the trenches every damn game .



Shurmur at the podium now on Giants.com  
jcn56 : 10/12/2018 12:04 am : link
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RE: RE: Not much to say.......  
FStubbs : 10/12/2018 12:07 am : link
In comment 14122565 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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In comment 14122294 Simms11 said:


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Pitiful performance. Oline terrible, Receivers couldn’t get open, CBs couldn’t cover a cold, STs couldn’t tackle. Rinse, repeat.....same thing every week.



Don't give me that "receivers don't get open" horseshit. There was an open receiver (Shepard) on the 2nd play of the game when Eli decided to jam the ball into the TE, leading to the INT.

- They threw 3 passes beyond the first down marker to Odell and 2 of them were terrible passes.
- They had 1st & 20 after the Shepard penalty and proceeded to throw 3 passes a grand total of 4 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.

The offensive line looks exactly the same as last year, but with 5 new starters. How is that even possible?


Our scouts and Chris Mara evaluating playere
RE: RE: many many talented individual players  
D_Giants : 10/12/2018 12:09 am : link
In comment 14122394 bradshaw44 said:
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In comment 14122289 wigs in nyc said:


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but the team is less than the sum of its parts



Are there really? I’m beginning to have my doubts.


If the team is less than the sum of its parts, the problem has to be coaching.
RE: RE: according to Shurmur Beckham had dehydration  
Photoguy : 10/12/2018 12:14 am : link
In comment 14122443 micky said:
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In comment 14122436 Jints in Carolina said:


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and that's why he left the field.

Hmmmmmmmmm



Sorry...I cant believe that...excuse


And you can prove that he didn't, how?
RE: RE: The Giants have to sit down  
Photoguy : 10/12/2018 12:15 am : link
In comment 14122432 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14122269 Chris684 said:


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and talk about getting Lauletta ready to play following the BYE week.

Trade deadline is October 30th and Gettleman should explore moving any and everyone not named Saquon Barkley out of here.

Suspend Beckham a week for conduct detrimental to the team.

Play this out and lock up another top pick.



Beckham should be the first guy up for trade.


Just stop. They aren't trading Beckham.
RE: you can blame Eli  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/12/2018 12:16 am : link
In comment 14122534 bc4life said:
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but when your hits & sacks are in double figures - you're going to struggle.


He threw an awful pick on the second play of the game. The hits and sacks hadn't even occurred yet. Enough excuses... he simply isn't good enough right now.
RE: RE: The Giants have to sit down  
Kev in Cali : 10/12/2018 12:17 am : link
In comment 14122432 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14122269 Chris684 said:


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and talk about getting Lauletta ready to play following the BYE week.

Trade deadline is October 30th and Gettleman should explore moving any and everyone not named Saquon Barkley out of here.

Suspend Beckham a week for conduct detrimental to the team.

Play this out and lock up another top pick.



Beckham should be the first guy up for trade.


We just gave Odell a huge contract....money well spent...lol

I agree, trade him.... and get someone in who might think about the team before their self....

He not the spotlight of this offense anymore and it's starting to show in his "play making ability". Eagles secondary were ripe for the picking and he didn't show up...
Am I the only one that thinks:  
section125 : 10/12/2018 12:20 am : link
that Jackrabbit checked out this game and mailed it in? I thought he should be let go tomorrow watching the game.

Collins runs around like a chicken with his head chopped off and has trouble covering (well we knew that).

Beckham may need a psychiatrist.....

I alternately feel bad for Eli and then wish he retired (what was he trying to do on the pass to Simonsen that was picked off?)

I thought Bettcher was a defensive guru???

Only reason to watch the Giants is Barkley. What would he do with a line that can block?

Boy did OV look good.

and thanks to all that recommended watching with the mute button on.

RE: Shouldnt be much to say  
SHO'NUFF : 10/12/2018 12:27 am : link
In comment 14122168 dep026 said:
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1. QB is done


Did Dep get hacked?

RE: RE: Pat Shurmur 11-28 as a HC  
D_Giants : 10/12/2018 12:29 am : link
In comment 14122532 j_rud said:
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He got more out of the Browns. Let that sink in for a minute and fight the urge to chug some bleach


What on earth prompted Mara and Tisch to hire Shurmur? He was 9-23 as the Browns’ HC, and his teams scored points in bottom 1/2 and 1/4 of the league more often than not. His best success was 2 years under Chip Kelly. Did the owners think that another unsuccessful OC (and HC), who also calls plays from a diner menu during the game and also prefers to have the defense appear to be the culprit in losses, would somehow improve team?
It's not a question whether or not the Giants  
M.S. : 10/12/2018 12:32 am : link
Are the worst team in the NFL.

They are.

The real question is how many years will it take to develop a playoff caliber team?

I once waited from 1964-1981.

Sure hope we're not in for that sort of repetition.
RE: RE: RE: Pat Shurmur 11-28 as a HC  
The_Boss : 10/12/2018 12:32 am : link
In comment 14122726 D_Giants said:
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In comment 14122532 j_rud said:


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In comment 14122508 Sean said:


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He got more out of the Browns. Let that sink in for a minute and fight the urge to chug some bleach



What on earth prompted Mara and Tisch to hire Shurmur? He was 9-23 as the Browns’ HC, and his teams scored points in bottom 1/2 and 1/4 of the league more often than not. His best success was 2 years under Chip Kelly. Did the owners think that another unsuccessful OC (and HC), who also calls plays from a diner menu during the game and also prefers to have the defense appear to be the culprit in losses, would somehow improve team?


Maybe he said what Mara wanted to hear: that he thought they could still win with Eli?
RE: It's not a question whether or not the Giants  
Simms11 : 10/12/2018 12:45 am : link
In comment 14122743 M.S. said:
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Are the worst team in the NFL.

They are.

The real question is how many years will it take to develop a playoff caliber team?

I once waited from 1964-1981.

Sure hope we're not in for that sort of repetition.


Need to find us a new QB soon. That’s going to be key in turning this thing around. Of course we need to continue to fix this abysmal Oline as well.
Too bad that Maras weren’t conned  
jpetuch : 10/12/2018 12:46 am : link
By Madoff. They might have been burned and forced to sell.Instead they were schooled how to pull it off with PSLs
RE: Am I the only one that thinks:  
riceneggs : 10/12/2018 5:35 am : link
In comment 14122687 section125 said:
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that Jackrabbit checked out this game and mailed it in? I thought he should be let go tomorrow watching the game.

Collins runs around like a chicken with his head chopped off and has trouble covering (well we knew that).

Beckham may need a psychiatrist.....

I alternately feel bad for Eli and then wish he retired (what was he trying to do on the pass to Simonsen that was picked off?)

I thought Bettcher was a defensive guru???

Only reason to watch the Giants is Barkley. What would he do with a line that can block?

Boy did OV look good.

and thanks to all that recommended watching with the mute button on.


I give Jack Rabbit a pass. He's dealing with some real life stuff. It's probably hard for him to 100% focus on football
This team sucks.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/12/2018 6:22 am : link
...
I think that first Eli interception  
eclipz928 : 10/12/2018 6:28 am : link
which was essentially a pick 6, had an enormous negative effect on the morale of the team - especially the defense. They never really recovered from it. I think you can mark that point (at the very start of the game) as what was the beginning of the end.
RE: I think that first Eli interception  
dep026 : 10/12/2018 6:37 am : link
In comment 14122954 eclipz928 said:
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which was essentially a pick 6, had an enormous negative effect on the morale of the team - especially the defense. They never really recovered from it. I think you can mark that point (at the very start of the game) as what was the beginning of the end.


Then that’s really sad. If one bad plays has that effect on a team.... then we are going to suck for years. I think the defense just looks for excuses to hide their ineptness.
Once the offense was down two scores  
Dodge : 10/12/2018 7:56 am : link
I think it was obvious the defense let up because they knew the offense was useless.
RE: RE: I think that first Eli interception  
Jimmy Googs : 10/12/2018 8:11 am : link
In comment 14122970 dep026 said:
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In comment 14122954 eclipz928 said:


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which was essentially a pick 6, had an enormous negative effect on the morale of the team - especially the defense. They never really recovered from it. I think you can mark that point (at the very start of the game) as what was the beginning of the end.



Then that’s really sad. If one bad plays has that effect on a team.... then we are going to suck for years. I think the defense just looks for excuses to hide their ineptness.


The int was a big play. Fall behind 7-0 right out of the box. But agree plenty of time to regroup.

I do agree though that that the defense (and even some players on offense) are playing down to the level of the ineffectiveness they see in Eli. The defense was never really going to be a strong unit this year, particularly the LBs and Secondary so that margin of difference in their play is not wildly off.

saying again, 2017 and 2018 are a colossal waste of time other than picking up draft collateral...
RBs don't win Super Bowls  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 10/12/2018 8:13 am : link
QBs do.
RE: I think that first Eli interception  
Blue21 : 10/12/2018 8:30 am : link
In comment 14122954 eclipz928 said:
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which was essentially a pick 6, had an enormous negative effect on the morale of the team - especially the defense. They never really recovered from it. I think you can mark that point (at the very start of the game) as what was the beginning of the end.


I agree. Then the fumble deep in their own end was the exclamation point even though they recovered it.
RE: RBs don't win Super Bowls  
riceneggs : 10/12/2018 8:38 am : link
In comment 14123162 Nomad Crow on the Madison said:
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QBs do.


The only positive I can see moving forward is this.

We are obviously going to have a top pick this year...and draft a QB.

Let's say we land Justin Herbert (Oregon) and he turns out to be just as good as Baker Mayfield, Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold....

Then you have your QB, all world RB and star WR for the next 10 years...

Yea?
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