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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/11/2018 11:28 pm
This will be a joyous thread.
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christian : 10/11/2018 11:29 pm : link
If this doesn't performance doesn't portend to a very big change, I fear nothing will.
Shouldnt be much to say  
dep026 : 10/11/2018 11:30 pm : link
1. QB is done
2. OBJ is still selfish.
3. Defense is one of the worst in football.
4. OL is disgustingly bad.
5. Barkley is very very very good.
Giant D was fine  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/11/2018 11:30 pm : link
Except on third down when it was abysmal.
This is the night  
rocco8112 : 10/11/2018 11:30 pm : link
Eli's career died. His status as a franchise QB is gone. Still the man though.

This season is now going to go nuclear. Best thing will be a lock for top three or four pick, maybe one overall. Just hope the GM knows what he doing. Shurmur will be tested big time too and he has not filled me with confidence thus far.
Giants will play prominently in  
St. Jimmy : 10/11/2018 11:31 pm : link
the Eagles' 2018 highlight video.
How will this org right itself  
micky : 10/11/2018 11:32 pm : link
to making football fun again?

I get theres dark times..but this day and age turnarounds are usually quick..but this has been disconcerting as to why it's not heading th ..as t way yet.
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christian : 10/11/2018 11:33 pm : link
Even Mara in the suite can hear these Eagles chants in his stadium.
The Eagles should send the Giants a Christmas card  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/11/2018 11:33 pm : link
later this year for getting them right.
Really  
Reb8thVA : 10/11/2018 11:33 pm : link
How is the organization stem the meltdown that is almost certain to ensue after rhis week?
Lot of shit in recent seasons  
bceagle05 : 10/11/2018 11:34 pm : link
but this feels like rock bottom. Nationally televised ass-kicking, Eli getting booed, Odell being Odell, defense playing half speed, OL getting run over. To quote Tyrion Lannister, "We've come to a dark place."
Saquon's weekly highlight reel  
bceagle05 : 10/11/2018 11:35 pm : link
should be a fun watch, at least.
Well this is a new low. This felt different, can't explain it.  
j_rud : 10/11/2018 11:37 pm : link
Just rock fucking bottom. How low does this go? Fist fights in the locker room? Players losing it with reporters? I got a bad feeling this is going to be historically, unforgettably bad.
Was literally never a game. Outclassed.  
The_Boss : 10/11/2018 11:37 pm : link
Team blows cock. Another loss to Philly. Eli now a stellar 10-18 vs them in his career.

I’m curious if any cowards in that locker room shit on Shurmur and/or Eli anonymously through that POS Josina Anderson.
The Giants have to sit down  
Chris684 : 10/11/2018 11:38 pm : link
and talk about getting Lauletta ready to play following the BYE week.

Trade deadline is October 30th and Gettleman should explore moving any and everyone not named Saquon Barkley out of here.

Suspend Beckham a week for conduct detrimental to the team.

Play this out and lock up another top pick.
Eli threw for more yards than Wentz  
Jints in Carolina : 10/11/2018 11:38 pm : link
so he had a better game right?

That's where stats are misleading.
sit down Saquon until next year  
wigs in nyc : 10/11/2018 11:38 pm : link
I’m half joking
The Giants had the better running back.  
St. Jimmy : 10/11/2018 11:38 pm : link
The Eagles had the better quarterback.
Please dont give the defense a pass  
Bramton1 : 10/11/2018 11:38 pm : link
They rarely could make a stop.

Anyone not named Saquon Barkley needs to take a good hard look in the mirror.
Like every game this season  
Anakim : 10/11/2018 11:38 pm : link
The only bright spots were Saquon and Wynn. Vernon looked good at times and it was nice that he was finally out there.
just bad  
giantfan2000 : 10/11/2018 11:38 pm : link
even though we have different coaches - different players
Giants still playing the same type of game

many many talented individual players  
wigs in nyc : 10/11/2018 11:39 pm : link
but the team is less than the sum of its parts
Was there any aspect of this game  
Reb8thVA : 10/11/2018 11:39 pm : link
Where we weren’t overmatched?
Not much to say.......  
Simms11 : 10/11/2018 11:39 pm : link
Pitiful performance. Oline terrible, Receivers couldn’t get open, CBs couldn’t cover a cold, STs couldn’t tackle. Rinse, repeat.....same thing every week.
A  
AcidTest : 10/11/2018 11:39 pm : link
lot of players are playing themselves off the team.

Stewart obviously won't be back. I don't think Omameh will be either. Vernon, Jenkins, Apple, and yes, possibly Eli, might also be gone. By the time this team is ready to compete, Eli will be 39 or 40.

Elli is too immobile. Today's NFL requires a much more mobile QB. When he does have time, he misses too many throws. I think we''ll see Lauletta by Thanksgiving.

The OL is just awful. It's a jailbreak on every play. We're stuck with Solder, and Hernandez has played well for a rookie. Everyone else can go. For this season, I'd bench Omameh, and use Pully at center, with Greco at guard.

On defense, we need pass rushers, and DBs, especially a safety, but also at least one good boundary corner.
The good thing about rock bottom is there's nowhere to go  
jcn56 : 10/11/2018 11:39 pm : link
but up. Of course, if you hit bottom hard enough, it might take you awhile to get back up.
it can only get better?  
mpinmaine : 10/11/2018 11:39 pm : link
I got nothing.

numb
RE: Giant D was fine  
Bill L : 10/11/2018 11:40 pm : link
In comment 14122174 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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Except on third down when it was abysmal.
this defense has been horrible all year. People look at them as if they’re better than they’d really are because they’ve had a couple games where they let teams march down the field but held them to FGs in the red zone. And they got plaudits for being tough.

Over the last two seasons if you count the number of times where they got a stop when they needed one, especially the last drive of the games, you’d need one hand to do it.
Would love to see them try  
Jay in Toronto : 10/11/2018 11:40 pm : link
Stanton at TE

Could solve two problems.
this game was over before it started  
Jints in Carolina : 10/11/2018 11:40 pm : link
totally outclassed.
Of course the defense also looks pretty good  
Bill L : 10/11/2018 11:41 pm : link
Because we compare it to the offense. I guess good or bad is all relative.
Off the top of my head...  
j_rud : 10/11/2018 11:41 pm : link
-Omameh was every bit as bad as Jerry
-Latimer jogs right by a turnover bc he's not disciplined enough to play through the whistle
-Zero targets for Beckham of more than 10 yards
-Oh yeah, and he's an asshole
-It's Eli AND the line. Not one or the other. With that said, the checkdowns became comical
RE: Was there any aspect of this game  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/11/2018 11:41 pm : link
In comment 14122291 Reb8thVA said:
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Where we weren’t overmatched?
RB
RE: Shouldnt be much to say  
EricJ : 10/11/2018 11:41 pm : link
In comment 14122168 dep026 said:
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1. QB is done
2. OBJ is still selfish.
3. Defense is one of the worst in football.
4. OL is disgustingly bad.
5. Barkley is very very very good.


We can add that the jury is still out on every coach on this team.
1-5..  
Sean : 10/11/2018 11:42 pm : link
4-18 in the last 22 games.
Under Eli's time as the QB  
Fishmanjim57 : 10/11/2018 11:42 pm : link
The Giants have been abysmal against Philly. I knew this game was going to be a disaster, as well as the remainder of this season.
This team will never be good again with Eli as the starting QB.
He's done.....and the Giants are done.
It's sickening!
Well Dep  
seanr : 10/11/2018 11:42 pm : link
Give us your analysis!
RE: RE: Giant D was fine  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/11/2018 11:43 pm : link
In comment 14122304 Bill L said:
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In comment 14122174 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:


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Except on third down when it was abysmal.

this defense has been horrible all year. People look at them as if they’re better than they’d really are because they’ve had a couple games where they let teams march down the field but held them to FGs in the red zone. And they got plaudits for being tough.

Over the last two seasons if you count the number of times where they got a stop when they needed one, especially the last drive of the games, you’d need one hand to do it.

It was semi-sarcasm...
Takeaways  
WillVAB : 10/11/2018 11:44 pm : link
1. OL needs work next year. Not just a guy or two. They need quality.

2. The defense needs play makers. They need pass rushers in the worst way.

3. The corners on this team can’t tackle worth a shit. They can’t fight through blocks worth a shit.

4. Sterling Sheppard is a mediocre WR. Invisible when it matters.

5. Barkley is the best back in the league.
RE: Under Eli's time as the QB  
The_Boss : 10/11/2018 11:44 pm : link
In comment 14122340 Fishmanjim57 said:
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The Giants have been abysmal against Philly. I knew this game was going to be a disaster, as well as the remainder of this season.
This team will never be good again with Eli as the starting QB.
He's done.....and the Giants are done.
It's sickening!


10-18.

Latimer  
NDMedics : 10/11/2018 11:44 pm : link
On that punt muff speaks volumes to me.
Anyone want to break down the division race now?  
bceagle05 : 10/11/2018 11:44 pm : link
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RE: many many talented individual players  
bradshaw44 : 10/11/2018 11:45 pm : link
In comment 14122289 wigs in nyc said:
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but the team is less than the sum of its parts


Are there really? I’m beginning to have my doubts.
RE: Giant D was fine  
Eman11 : 10/11/2018 11:46 pm : link
In comment 14122174 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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Except on third down when it was abysmal.
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Umm no, they were horrible on 1st down too. How many 2nd and shorts did the Eagles have? Seemed like it was near every damn series.
RE: Anyone want to break down the division race now?  
Fishmanjim57 : 10/11/2018 11:46 pm : link
In comment 14122385 bceagle05 said:
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Giants will remain in the cellar
When was the last time the Giants came out and laid one on a team  
j_rud : 10/11/2018 11:46 pm : link
from the jump like the Eagles did tonight? The last time a game was never in doubt and the Giamts simply outclassed someone?
RE: Takeaways  
The_Boss : 10/11/2018 11:47 pm : link
In comment 14122373 WillVAB said:
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1. OL needs work next year. Not just a guy or two. They need quality.

2. The defense needs play makers. They need pass rushers in the worst way.

3. The corners on this team can’t tackle worth a shit. They can’t fight through blocks worth a shit.

4. Sterling Sheppard is a mediocre WR. Invisible when it matters.

5. Barkley is the best back in the league.


Barkley is damn good. Fox was comparing him to Barry Sanders early in the game. Lion fans will tell you he was awesome in the late 80’s-mid 90’s. They’ll also tell you the team blew ass in that time period.
Watching Antrel Rolle on the postgame  
Chris684 : 10/11/2018 11:47 pm : link
Really missing the days of men like him on this team.

RE: The Giants have to sit down  
FStubbs : 10/11/2018 11:48 pm : link
In comment 14122269 Chris684 said:
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and talk about getting Lauletta ready to play following the BYE week.

Trade deadline is October 30th and Gettleman should explore moving any and everyone not named Saquon Barkley out of here.

Suspend Beckham a week for conduct detrimental to the team.

Play this out and lock up another top pick.


Beckham should be the first guy up for trade.
according to Shurmur Beckham had dehydration  
Jints in Carolina : 10/11/2018 11:49 pm : link
and that's why he left the field.

Hmmmmmmmmm
One more lost season  
Mike from Ohio : 10/11/2018 11:49 pm : link
of Giants football. That is started to become the norm. This is a very poorly run team and it starts higher than Gettleman.
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