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This season had to happen

Paulie Walnuts : 10/12/2018 9:39 am
You have to know that Mara put a precondition on any hires that Eli was the QB, after ladt years shit storm. Why do you think Patricia spurned them.? DG is letting this play out because he has to, to make a point to the Maras. Same shit happens at work, you get a new boss, he tells you to do stupid shit, cause hes the boss and you are not. So you have to do it and let that shit play out. In the longer run, a Giant team without Elis cap hit, on a rookie QB deal, with high draft picks, and a ton of cap space has to be the goal of DG after thus season
Question  
Jay on the Island : 10/12/2018 9:40 am : link
How did Patricia spurn us when the Giants never made him an offer? Are you going by Gary Myers' made up bullshit?
RE: Question  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/12/2018 9:41 am : link
In comment 14123556 Jay on the Island said:
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How did Patricia spurn us when the Giants never made him an offer? Are you going by Gary Myers' made up bullshit?
ignore everything else u said and commeny on one thing...
How do we know DG didn’t sell an “All in on Eli” plan  
The_Boss : 10/12/2018 9:42 am : link
To Mara during the GM “search”?
LOL this was all the Gettlemaster's plan  
Justlurking : 10/12/2018 9:43 am : link
He's showing the Maras! Give me a break. He's clueless. He's a scout, not a GM.
RE: Question  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/12/2018 9:43 am : link
In comment 14123556 Jay on the Island said:
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How did Patricia spurn us when the Giants never made him an offer? Are you going by Gary Myers' made up bullshit?
sorry. Ignore everything else i said and fixate on one thing.. this season had to happen, cause Mara wanted Eli to be the QB. I love eli, but hes done. The difference last night was Wentz, he escaped sack after sack.
RE: How do we know DG didn’t sell an “All in on Eli” plan  
BillKo : 10/12/2018 9:44 am : link
In comment 14123568 The_Boss said:
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To Mara during the GM “search”?


Maybe he did.

Then drafted the best player in the 2018 draft.

And now will probably be in position to get a QB next year.

Got the job, and maybe getting the right players. Sounds like a win-win for Dave G.
probably  
AnnapolisMike : 10/12/2018 9:45 am : link
I think they hoped the changes on the OL would help and they have not. I believe Eli would be effective if he had a better than average OL. But he does not with the Giants...and will not for another year or two.

I think the mistake that IS on DG is OBJ's contract. OBJ is bigger than the team...and that simply is not going to work. My guess is that OBJ is traded in the offseason as a one year rental for a team that is a WR away.
RE: RE: Question  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/12/2018 9:47 am : link
In comment 14123562 Paulie Walnuts said:
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In comment 14123556 Jay on the Island said:


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How did Patricia spurn us when the Giants never made him an offer? Are you going by Gary Myers' made up bullshit?

ignore everything else u said and commeny on one thing...


Ignore everything else? Kinda hard to look past you spouting off bullshit. Your thread sucks.
RE: RE: RE: Question  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/12/2018 9:49 am : link
In comment 14123595 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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In comment 14123562 Paulie Walnuts said:


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In comment 14123556 Jay on the Island said:


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How did Patricia spurn us when the Giants never made him an offer? Are you going by Gary Myers' made up bullshit?

ignore everything else u said and commeny on one thing...



Ignore everything else? Kinda hard to look past you spouting off bullshit. Your thread sucks.
ok then..
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Paulie Walnuts : 10/12/2018 9:51 am : link
In comment 14123595 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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In comment 14123562 Paulie Walnuts said:


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In comment 14123556 Jay on the Island said:


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How did Patricia spurn us when the Giants never made him an offer? Are you going by Gary Myers' made up bullshit?

ignore everything else u said and commeny on one thing...



Ignore everything else? Kinda hard to look past you spouting off bullshit. Your thread sucks.
if maras wanted eli and new coach X said during the interview, that he wanted to repleave eli, you really think they, the maras, would have made him an offer?
Sure  
ProfPistolPete : 10/12/2018 9:56 am : link
Shurmur was their first choice, anything else is fake news! Spare me. Either they got spurned because the organization is an embarrassment or they made numerous poor decisions because the organization is run by fools. And yes, making a few good moves like trading JPP or even drafting Barkley does not make up for hiring a GM who thinks analytics and "eggheads" are stupid. Regardless this team is and will remain hot garbage so buckle up for the prolonged futility.
QBs are not sure things.. ever.  
Dodge : 10/12/2018 9:59 am : link
Barkley is an amazing talent. He'll make whatever new QB we get that much better.

The plan could have always been get the RB this year, QB next year. Especially if you didn't like any of the QBs last year.

Shrug.

A rookie QB can't do worse than Eli at this point.
A rookie QB on a rookie deal for 5, 6 years  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/12/2018 10:03 am : link
next year give DG a lot of room to maneuver
Dodge  
ProfPistolPete : 10/12/2018 10:06 am : link
You may well be right but based on the way the NFL is structured today I really think the organization was fooled into believing they could at the very least be competitive for a Wildcard spot. However, assuming the season continues and they end up with a top pick, it all may just work out in spite of this season. So yes it's painful and yes I personally can't stand the current brain trust (or many of the players as well) but there's always a place for some long term optimism.
I think the plan was to  
bluepepper : 10/12/2018 10:14 am : link
give Eli another year and hopefully be respectable. 7-9 to 9-7. Mara could hold his head up in owners meetings after the debacle last year. Eli could go out on a decent note. DG and Shurmur could draft their QB in 2019 unless they nabbed a steal in the later rounds of 2018 (Lauletta was the shot at that).
And using the 3rd rounder  
Justlurking : 10/12/2018 10:16 am : link
In the supplemental draft was just the Gettlemaster covering his tracks! He’s that. Fucking. Good.
RE: And using the 3rd rounder  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/12/2018 10:18 am : link
In comment 14123715 Justlurking said:
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In the supplemental draft was just the Gettlemaster covering his tracks! He’s that. Fucking. Good.


who you talking to ? I though DG made a good pick there, the team is short on DB's and he was a good one, is it DG fault he got hurt in a week?
RE: probably  
ThatLimerickGuy : 10/12/2018 11:06 am : link
In comment 14123583 AnnapolisMike said:
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I think they hoped the changes on the OL would help and they have not. I believe Eli would be effective if he had a better than average OL. But he does not with the Giants...and will not for another year or two.

I think the mistake that IS on DG is OBJ's contract. OBJ is bigger than the team...and that simply is not going to work. My guess is that OBJ is traded in the offseason as a one year rental for a team that is a WR away.


But he just signed a 90 million dollar extension? How can he be a rental?
you are bigger than the team when your poor performance is overlooked  
hitdog42 : 10/12/2018 11:09 am : link
to appease a fan base--- and you are overpaid despite poor performance because of your distant passed.

that is bigger than the team.

being a millenial asshole is different then bigger than the team
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