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Gotta get some height at WR.

jc in c-ville : 10/12/2018 10:35 am
These red-zone failures are painful given the only options are crossing patterns with 13/87 and dump offs to 26 and pray.

Granted, we're missing EE but this team needs a play-maker 6'4" ish with some wingspan ala Jeffries.

Obviously, the main focus should be on both lines and the secondary, outside of the QB position, but somewhere in next years draft or free agency, this team needs someone who they can jump ball in the end-zone or rely or FG's.

With all these Div 1 teams, there has to be somebody out there that can fill that role in the 4/5th round. Not asking him to be the focal point of the O but would be worth his weight in gold if he was able to give this team something they so drastically need- size to offset the quickness of OBJ/SS/EE.

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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/12/2018 10:37 am : link
I hear ya, but we need to fix the lines and QB first.
Yes, Sir...  
M.S. : 10/12/2018 10:37 am : link

...exactly.

And that's one of the reasons why I believe they never re-sign Sheppard.
Or, maybe convert Engram...  
M.S. : 10/12/2018 10:38 am : link

...to wide-out.
have you see the pats lately...  
peteschweaty : 10/12/2018 10:38 am : link
no tall wideouts and a superbowl appearance every year.

our issue is at qb.
RE: have you see the pats lately...  
BigBlue2112 : 10/12/2018 10:45 am : link
In comment 14123807 peteschweaty said:
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no tall wideouts and a superbowl appearance every year.

our issue is at qb.


Brady would fail behind this line.
The o-line sucks too  
MetsAreBack : 10/12/2018 10:45 am : link
And oh by the way, it's not just an offense issue with this team. We've given up 100 points the past three games.

Barkley and OBJ are literally the only reasons to watch this team
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MetsAreBack : 10/12/2018 10:46 am : link
In comment 14123851 BigBlue2112 said:
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no tall wideouts and a superbowl appearance every year.

our issue is at qb.



Brady would fail behind this line.


Brady gets rid of the ball in under 2 seconds ... so no he would be fine. But lots of non first ballot Hall of Famers would fail behind this line. Agree generally without the embellishment
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Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/12/2018 10:47 am : link
In comment 14123799 Eric from BBI said:
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I hear ya, but we need to fix the lines and QB first.

I think a "when he's covered he's open" receiveris more critical, as the team is currently constituted with a pocket passer QB. But I think we will be moving on from Eli.

I blame Mara-Tisch, I think our bizarre ownership setup is akin to Generals Paullus and Varo fighting Hannibal at Cannae, one general take command one day, another the next day, back to the other next day...
Are there any...  
BamaBlue : 10/12/2018 10:47 am : link
9 foot tall receivers out there who can reel in some of the passes that look more like Space-X launches.
You know what works with lack of height  
Tuckrule : 10/12/2018 10:49 am : link
AN ACCURATE QB
Jumbo bunch, free pick = free Beckham TD's  
NYG007 : 10/12/2018 10:49 am : link
Eagles, Pats, Saints all do it with tall or big wr's.

Scheme doesn't need height. ELI NEEDS height, other QB's do not.

Eli is gone in 10 more games.
RE: have you see the pats lately...  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/12/2018 10:49 am : link
In comment 14123807 peteschweaty said:
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no tall wideouts and a superbowl appearance every year.

our issue is at qb.

Rob Gronkowski 6'6". Different team without him.
RE: RE: have you see the pats lately...  
DonQuixote : 10/12/2018 10:54 am : link
In comment 14123851 BigBlue2112 said:
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no tall wideouts and a superbowl appearance every year.

our issue is at qb.



Brady would fail behind this line.


People need to re-watch the first TD pass by Wentz last night. There is no way Eli makes that throw...no way.
RE: RE: RE: have you see the pats lately...  
HomerJones45 : 10/12/2018 11:05 am : link
In comment 14123867 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 14123807 peteschweaty said:


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no tall wideouts and a superbowl appearance every year.

our issue is at qb.



Brady would fail behind this line.



Brady gets rid of the ball in under 2 seconds ... so no he would be fine. But lots of non first ballot Hall of Famers would fail behind this line. Agree generally without the embellishment
Nonsense. Look the Pats are a very logically run organization. Brady was never terribly mobile. So, if you are going to play o-line for the Pats, your #1 talent must be pass blocking. They will worry about run blocking later. If you can't pass block then you won't be on the team. Same with receivers: they have an accurate passer. If you aren't a good route runner, you will not play. Period. It doesn't matter how tall or fast or handsome you are, you aren't playing and they will get rid of you.

Would that we engaged in that sort of organizational self-assessment and logical acquisition of resources. Instead, we went out and tried to find a system and fit the inventory of players into it. While like Las Vegas, it's good to have a system because when you bust, you still have your system.
Brady short passing accuracy and release  
Bluesbreaker : 10/12/2018 12:36 pm : link
Are second to none . Also had the arm strength to boot .
There is a reason he wins every year with whomever they
have at WR .
The Giants do need some size but Ellison Engram are injured
They do not go to Latimer near enough .
Engram is a nice piece but they need Ellison and another
TE similar to him . Engram is not a blocker .
We constantly settle for FG's need a big reliable target
for third downs we are the worst in the NFL and the red zone.
RE: RE: have you see the pats lately...  
MetsAreBack : 10/12/2018 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14123889 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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no tall wideouts and a superbowl appearance every year.

our issue is at qb.


Rob Gronkowski 6'6". Different team without him.


They've gone on numerous super bowl runs without Gronk
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MetsAreBack : 10/12/2018 7:16 pm : link
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In comment 14123807 peteschweaty said:


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no tall wideouts and a superbowl appearance every year.

our issue is at qb.



Brady would fail behind this line.



Brady gets rid of the ball in under 2 seconds ... so no he would be fine. But lots of non first ballot Hall of Famers would fail behind this line. Agree generally without the embellishment

Nonsense. Look the Pats are a very logically run organization. Brady was never terribly mobile. So, if you are going to play o-line for the Pats, your #1 talent must be pass blocking. They will worry about run blocking later. If you can't pass block then you won't be on the team. Same with receivers: they have an accurate passer. If you aren't a good route runner, you will not play. Period. It doesn't matter how tall or fast or handsome you are, you aren't playing and they will get rid of you.

Would that we engaged in that sort of organizational self-assessment and logical acquisition of resources. Instead, we went out and tried to find a system and fit the inventory of players into it. While like Las Vegas, it's good to have a system because when you bust, you still have your system.


Eli is not Brady. That's not a knock on Eli. Brady is GOAT. I'm a little dumb founded this is even still debated by anyone
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