Hmmm some are saying that the Giants were never in a win now mode. That 50% of the roster is new, so that shows it was always a rebuild...Really?
Is that an accurate statement?
Lets see what the facts are...
Gettleman traded away the Giants 4th and 6th round picks THIS YEAR, for LB Alec Ogletree. They also took on his 42 million dollar contract.
Gettleman traded away the Giants 2019 3rd round pick for CB Sam Beal.
Gettleman signed LT Nate Solder to a 5 year 62 million dollar contract.
Gettleman resigned WR Odell Beckham Jr to a 5 year 95 million dollar contract.
Gettleman signed Kareem Martin to a 3 year 15 million dollar contract
Gettleman signed OT Patrick Omameh to a 3 year 15 million dollar contract.
Gettleman used the #2 overall pick in the draft for what he believed was a generational talent at RB. 4 year 31 million dollar contract.
Also Gettleman’s decision to "adopt a win-now mentality based largely on his conviction that Eli Manning still has, and I quote "good years left", may be a fatally flawed plan."
Gettleman didn’t seem to have a conviction on any of the quarterbacks in the 2018 draft, he passed up the likes of Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen and Josh Allen after the Browns took Baker Mayfield at No. 1.
He built this year’s roster as if Manning were ready for another Super Bowl run, but the problems plaguing the team, especially on offense, make thoughts of a trip to Atlanta in February a pipe dream.
All in all, Gettleman used up 173 out of 177 million dollars in cap space the Giants had in 2018. If that doesn't say we are in a win now mode mentality, then I don't know what does.
By cutting Flowers and DRC, all that showed is that he was getting rid of old and bad players. Do not believe the posters who are saying the Giants aren't desperately trying to win now, they are delusional.
Gettleman went all in on Eli Manning, and it completely backfired on him. The Giants are in Quarterback Hell...
You'll learn to love me. Take Eli out of the equation, I am a pretty funny guy.
Whoever our next qb is, his life will be made much easier by having SB
I think he overpaid Solder but couldnt ignore the o-line problem and was the only big named guy we could sign. He wouldve been more slated for not signing solder (regardless of how he played on a different team).
We can have 30-65m in cap room easily by moving on from bad players next season.
That's enough to find a decent NFL C, RG, RT and CB.
We are NOT in qb hell. We are in Barkley, OBJ - two all world talents and a young QB fun to watch future vs a hell for rest of this season.
It would not have mattered WHO the Giants signed with the #2 overall pick- that player would have received almost the same contract due to the NFL pick slotting system- so that complaint is utter nonsense.
The cap numbers are nonsense too- almost all of it tied up in Eli and other contracts that the Giants could not drop last off-season. The cap hit would have been too large and they would have had even more holes than they do not. That will be corrected this coming off-season.
In fact, except for OBJ, Solder and Barkley, there is no one on the roster who cannot be cut financially this off-season.
That means that the Giants can, and most likely will, cut ties with Eli, Vernon, Jenkins, Snacks, Omameh, Ogletree, and numerous other vets. It just was not financially possible under the cap to absorb the accelerated bonuses last off-season for those players- so they cut the ones they could afford and will finish the job this off-season.
Again, not a true statement in the screed above.
The Solder signing isn’t looking much better, he has been awful!
It would not have mattered WHO the Giants signed with the #2 overall pick- that player would have received almost the same contract due to the NFL pick slotting system- so that complaint is utter nonsense.
The cap numbers are nonsense too- almost all of it tied up in Eli and other contracts that the Giants could not drop last off-season. The cap hit would have been too large and they would have had even more holes than they do not. That will be corrected this coming off-season.
In fact, except for OBJ, Solder and Barkley, there is no one on the roster who cannot be cut financially this off-season.
That means that the Giants can, and most likely will, cut ties with Eli, Vernon, Jenkins, Snacks, Omameh, Ogletree, and numerous other vets. It just was not financially possible under the cap to absorb the accelerated bonuses last off-season for those players- so they cut the ones they could afford and will finish the job this off-season.
Again, not a true statement in the screed above.
So they will just need to replace QB DE CB DT RG and MlLB, not to mention RT WR FS AND OC, piece of cake! Nice job, Brownie!
As for the others, he needed players. Omameh was a massive overpay, but the others are defensible. I think DG's plan was to rebuild while still remaining competitive. It hasn't worked out as planned, but it was defensible.
1. the OL been able to play at a higher level
2. Eli not been toast.
This doesn't inspire great confidence that there is a plan in place.
Eli: Save $17 million
Vernon: Save $11.5 million
Jenkins: Save $7.75 million
Ogeltree: Save $6.5 million
Snacks: Save $5.4 million
Omaneh: Save $3.15 million
Ellison: Save $3.25 million
I am not advocating cutting all these people. I also realize that your dead cap space will go through the roof. BUT, you have choices to make as a GM.
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At least there is some stability at LT. He's not awful. It could be worse (see above).
Eli: Save $17 million
Vernon: Save $11.5 million
Jenkins: Save $7.75 million
Ogeltree: Save $6.5 million
Snacks: Save $5.4 million
Omaneh: Save $3.15 million
Ellison: Save $3.25 million
I am not advocating cutting all these people. I also realize that your dead cap space will go through the roof. BUT, you have choices to make as a GM.
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My mistake. I thought you were referencing 2019 cap space.
And for the price of these 3 bums we could have signed Norwell.
And what if the Giants feel that there's no franchise QB's? We are forced to pick one anyway. A rebuild strategy should have been planned years ago to avoid that situation imo.