I am and always will be a diehard Giants fan. I am so grateful for how classy our organization is (usually) and that we have been successful in the past.
I am interested to get peoples opinion of who is at fault. This is just an exercise and I am hopeful our team will get fixed in the next couple of years.
I do think our talent level is not great but I tend to think the coaches could get a lot more out of the team.
I would blame our teams performance so far as 70% coaching and 30% talent.
What would you say?
So I blame the turf...100%
It wasn’t just one of them it was an entire organizational failure.
John went back to the well with Gettleman and I will give him a few years to turn it around, but right now it’s not looking good.
Exactly..this current team is residual damage.
Going to take at least another year or two, with some prudent drafting.
Shurmur had a choice though - he could have waited it out another season in Minny, or taken this job.
Between watching film of the Giants the past couple of years, and interviewing with the FO to gather some info on where they saw the team heading with personnel, he had to have some idea what he was going to be dealing with.
Did he think that he had a good chance of being successful with this setup? Or was it him figuring this might be his last chance at a HC gig, and he'd better take it?
This team consistently deteriorated over the Reese years. This wasn't going to be a quick fix. With all due respect to the OP, not sure what you expected.
And the person laughing loudest with the last laugh?
Ben McAdoo.
And the person laughing loudest with the last laugh?
Ben McAdoo.
While stocking shelves at a grocery store.
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Exactly..this current team is residual damage.
Going to take at least another year or two, with some prudent drafting.
This.
It's hard to overstate how awful the drafts, and most of the FA signings, were under Reese, and how damaging that is to the team. He hit on OBJ, Collins, and Snacks. Maybe Shepard. And that's about it.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
Hired McDoodle
Fired Coughlin when he had no established successor
All hires YES men
Made terrible deciding votes in draft
Used nepotism to fill key roles on team
Conned fans with PSL
Is a phony facade Mr Clean on the outside with a sinister backdrop ala Paterno - He cant be this clean?
Typical silver spoon kid always with a CYA fallback
Never learned from dads mistakes
Coaches 20%
Oline 30%
Defense 40%
Eli 0%
100%
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100%
Exactly..this current team is residual damage.
Going to take at least another year or two, with some prudent drafting.
This.
It's hard to overstate how awful the drafts, and most of the FA signings, were under Reese, and how damaging that is to the team. He hit on OBJ, Collins, and Snacks. Maybe Shepard. And that's about it.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
On the current roster?
Because JPP is very good would be our leading sack guy now (as would Devon kennard we let go). Jenkins has flashed greatly. Engram could be good