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NFT: 10/12 Knicks Talk: Final Preseason game/ Durant article

LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/12/2018 11:24 am
New article from The Ringer regarding Durant to the Knicks

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Durant would be putting his faith in a bunch of young players if he came to the Knicks. It’s no different than what LeBron did with the Lakers, except that Porzingis is far more proven than Brandon Ingram. Durant has been chasing LeBron his entire career, and they could wind up with strikingly similar career arcs. The era of transcendent players staying in one place may be over. Golden State could be Durant’s version of Miami, a place where he learned how to win before taking those lessons to a new franchise that built everything around him.


Tonight the Knicks finish their last preseason game against the Nets.

Fizdale says Frank will be guarding a power forward tomorrow.

Starting Lineup
Baker-THJ-Knox-Lance-Robinson



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We  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2018 12:37 pm : link
know the Knicks have a top notch international scouting team so gotta assume they will watch this kid heavily.
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The  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2018 12:38 pm : link
Durant stuff isn't BS. He may not end up a Knick but it's legitimate interest
God, the Giants, Knicks and Rangers may all have top-3 picks  
Anakim : 10/12/2018 12:38 pm : link
next year. Astounding.
Can't  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2018 12:40 pm : link
speak for hockey but our luck the "generational" talent types don't appear to be in the upcoming NFL/NBA drafts.
draft target  
PhilSimms15 : 10/12/2018 12:42 pm : link
Should be Barrett or Reddish. The two Duke freshman are the two best players in the country and the most dynamic. Barrett might be more explosive but Reddish more of an all-around player.

Can't go wrong with either guy.
Knox, Porzingis,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/12/2018 12:42 pm : link
a top pick next spring, NYC...

KD knows if he wins in NYC, he's a basketball god.
Can we let Both play a college game?  
Carl in CT : 10/12/2018 12:43 pm : link
I was one of the first on RJ. But let’s see what these kids have before anointing one over another. Way to early.
RE: Can we let Both play a college game?  
Anakim : 10/12/2018 12:44 pm : link
In comment 14124458 Carl in CT said:
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I was one of the first on RJ. But let’s see what these kids have before anointing one over another. Way to early.


One of the first? He was the top HS recruit.
But what do I know I wanted  
Carl in CT : 10/12/2018 12:45 pm : link
Porter in a bad way.
RE: Can we let Both play a college game?  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2018 12:45 pm : link
In comment 14124458 Carl in CT said:
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I was one of the first on RJ. But let’s see what these kids have before anointing one over another. Way to early.


Usually (especially nowadays) the true franchise caliber players are identified before they play a single college game. Sure, there are guys like Leonard who come out of "nowhere" but on paper there is no Duncan, Shaq, Lebron, Yao type. Not sure why we need to wait to acknowledge that.
You guys are down on Zion?  
Mike from SI : 10/12/2018 12:47 pm : link
Really? I don't follow h.s. or college that closely but he looks like an insane mixture of athleticism and size based on the limited amount I've seen. Happy to be proven wrong; just not sure what I'm missing or haven't seen (because I don't watch a lot).
Saw him at an academy in FL  
Carl in CT : 10/12/2018 12:48 pm : link
No I’m not from Canada (grin).
RE: You guys are down on Zion?  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2018 12:50 pm : link
In comment 14124478 Mike from SI said:
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Really? I don't follow h.s. or college that closely but he looks like an insane mixture of athleticism and size based on the limited amount I've seen. Happy to be proven wrong; just not sure what I'm missing or haven't seen (because I don't watch a lot).


He has shot concerns + concerns he's a "bully baller" ala Lance Stephenson. I personally think he's going to be far better than Stephenson, (freak athlete and not a lunatic) but we shall see. Mook watches more college ball than I do, but I still like Williamson. Guys emerge.
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giants#1 : 10/12/2018 12:50 pm : link
In comment 14124442 DanMetroMan said:
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speak for hockey but our luck the "generational" talent types don't appear to be in the upcoming NFL/NBA drafts.


To be fair, the Giants just grabbed a generational player this past draft.
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DanMetroMan : 10/12/2018 12:53 pm : link
In comment 14124503 giants#1 said:
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speak for hockey but our luck the "generational" talent types don't appear to be in the upcoming NFL/NBA drafts.



To be fair, the Giants just grabbed a generational player this past draft.


For sure. Wasn't taking a shot at Barkley. Just the on paper upcoming NFL draft. Who is the "OMG we need..."?
I read somewhere that Zion  
Carl in CT : 10/12/2018 12:55 pm : link
Is a better Miles Bridges? Thoughts?
RE: RE: You guys are down on Zion?  
Mike from SI : 10/12/2018 12:55 pm : link
In comment 14124502 DanMetroMan said:
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Really? I don't follow h.s. or college that closely but he looks like an insane mixture of athleticism and size based on the limited amount I've seen. Happy to be proven wrong; just not sure what I'm missing or haven't seen (because I don't watch a lot).



He has shot concerns + concerns he's a "bully baller" ala Lance Stephenson. I personally think he's going to be far better than Stephenson, (freak athlete and not a lunatic) but we shall see. Mook watches more college ball than I do, but I still like Williamson. Guys emerge.


Thanks! Interested to hear if Mook has any additional thoughts, but that is a good synopsis.
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nygiants16 : 10/12/2018 12:57 pm : link
In comment 14124429 DanMetroMan said:
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Durant stuff isn't BS. He may not end up a Knick but it's legitimate interest


i was thinking about this, you think kp has talked to durant? if that is me unless inknow for sure someone is comingni am not waiting until next year to be paid
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nygiants16 : 10/12/2018 12:57 pm : link
In comment 14124511 DanMetroMan said:
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speak for hockey but our luck the "generational" talent types don't appear to be in the upcoming NFL/NBA drafts.



To be fair, the Giants just grabbed a generational player this past draft.



For sure. Wasn't taking a shot at Barkley. Just the on paper upcoming NFL draft. Who is the "OMG we need..."?


Herbert
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DanMetroMan : 10/12/2018 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14124530 nygiants16 said:
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Durant stuff isn't BS. He may not end up a Knick but it's legitimate interest



i was thinking about this, you think kp has talked to durant? if that is me unless inknow for sure someone is comingni am not waiting until next year to be paid


Hard to even know. These guys all seem to talk though I'm not even sure who KP's "guys" are off the court. I will say this... it appears at worst the Knicks will look like a normal franchise vs. a circus given the coach, GM etc so you have to figure the days of the leader of our franchise taking shots at other players are over = players interest in coming here.
It really sucks that the lottery odds changed  
Oscar : 10/12/2018 2:01 pm : link
In a year where the Knicks have a very good chance of being bottom 2-3. It figures with this franchise but it still sucks.
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nygiants16 : 10/12/2018 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14124542 DanMetroMan said:
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Durant stuff isn't BS. He may not end up a Knick but it's legitimate interest



i was thinking about this, you think kp has talked to durant? if that is me unless inknow for sure someone is comingni am not waiting until next year to be paid



Hard to even know. These guys all seem to talk though I'm not even sure who KP's "guys" are off the court. I will say this... it appears at worst the Knicks will look like a normal franchise vs. a circus given the coach, GM etc so you have to figure the days of the leader of our franchise taking shots at other players are over = players interest in coming here.


yeah probably right...
Three quick fouls for Knox.  
bceagle05 : 10/12/2018 7:53 pm : link
Mitch looks good.
Just put on down 7  
Carl in CT : 10/12/2018 8:01 pm : link
Anybody doing anything?
Couple nice moments for Frank and Mitch.  
bceagle05 : 10/12/2018 8:09 pm : link
Otherwise, the chuckers are chucking.
We got our own splash brothers  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/12/2018 8:21 pm : link
THJ and Burke

The Trickle brothers
Frank looks excellent.  
bceagle05 : 10/12/2018 8:21 pm : link
He always plays well against the Nets though.
RE: Frank looks excellent.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/12/2018 8:24 pm : link
In comment 14125601 bceagle05 said:
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He always plays well against the Nets though.


I was just thinking this. Last year he had his best game against the Nets. So far this preseason his best game was against them as well.
Ron Baker is abysmal.  
bceagle05 : 10/12/2018 8:27 pm : link
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Mitch with the airball from 18 feet.  
bceagle05 : 10/12/2018 8:31 pm : link
That was Noah-like.
RE: Ron Baker is abysmal.  
adamg : 10/12/2018 8:33 pm : link
In comment 14125607 bceagle05 said:
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looks especially bad tonight
Hoping Knox can show something this  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/12/2018 8:48 pm : link
second half.

Another game with bad body language in the first half.
RE: to entice Durant  
djm : 10/12/2018 8:50 pm : link
In comment 14124396 Vanzetti said:
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I think Knicks would need to luck out and get the first draft pick

I like Knox and Robinson but neither one looks likely to emerge as a star this year. Ditto for Frank

I don't seem him coming to NY to play with a bunch of decent-but-not-great lottery picks


I think you’re under selling Knox big time. We can only go on the summer league and his measurables plus pedigree. All three check off a lot of boxes and I guarantee you a redraft right this second sees Knox go higher than 8. Plus, Robinson? Did you see him over the summer? He too goes higher in a re draft. MUCH higher. And KP ? He isn’t a top flight talent.

If KP comes back late this year and shows most of what he had pre injury or even just hints of his former self, the Knicks will have a legit pitch to make. It will come down to whether Durant wants to play in NYC. I think there’s legit smoke this time. We really haven’t ever seen this kind of smoke before.
Forgot to add ? After the KP line of whether he’s top talent  
djm : 10/12/2018 8:52 pm : link
Of course he is.
I think people here  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/12/2018 8:58 pm : link
are overrating Knox based off summer league games against guys who won’t be in the NBA. He hasn’t looked like that player at all this preseason. He’s not ready yet.

Nets are immortal from the 3.
Frank is a terror on defense.  
bceagle05 : 10/12/2018 9:12 pm : link
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Baker  
XBRONX : 10/12/2018 9:31 pm : link
stinks offensively
Kornet got robbed there  
adamg : 10/12/2018 9:43 pm : link
That was a clean block
RE: I think people here  
nygiants16 : 10/12/2018 9:45 pm : link
In comment 14125634 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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are overrating Knox based off summer league games against guys who won’t be in the NBA. He hasn’t looked like that player at all this preseason. He’s not ready yet.

Nets are immortal from the 3.


he is a rookie getting his firat minutes and starting, there are going to be really good games and really bad games, that is what this season is all about...

and can we all agree on one thing  
nygiants16 : 10/12/2018 9:46 pm : link
when the knicks win can we not have constand complaining they won and how the knicks do not know how to tank please
RE: Kornet got robbed there  
PhiPsi125 : 10/12/2018 9:52 pm : link
In comment 14125671 adamg said:
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That was a clean block


That was bad. Tell me a blown call like that doesn’t completely change the outcome of a close game in the closing minutes. Drives me nuts.
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LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/12/2018 9:53 pm : link
In comment 14125674 nygiants16 said:
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are overrating Knox based off summer league games against guys who won’t be in the NBA. He hasn’t looked like that player at all this preseason. He’s not ready yet.

Nets are immortal from the 3.



he is a rookie getting his firat minutes and starting, there are going to be really good games and really bad games, that is what this season is all about...


I get that. He’s 19. There’s nothing wrong with saying he’s not ready.
So does courtney lee play?  
nygiants16 : 10/12/2018 9:53 pm : link
he has not played a single minute in preseason, he seems healthy...
Like what I've seen from Frank.  
bceagle05 : 10/12/2018 9:56 pm : link
Clearly worked on his body and his handle, and added a few moves to the repertoire. Hopefully he spends next summer shooting a million threes - if his percentage from deep starts climbing, he'll be on his way.
RE: Like what I've seen from Frank.  
nygiants16 : 10/12/2018 9:59 pm : link
In comment 14125685 bceagle05 said:
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Clearly worked on his body and his handle, and added a few moves to the repertoire. Hopefully he spends next summer shooting a million threes - if his percentage from deep starts climbing, he'll be on his way.


i loved frank coming out and i think he can play some.point guard but i am fine with him coming off the bench playing 30 minutes and being that jack of all trades type of player...

i think fiz for at least the firat game goes burke hardaway knox thomas kanter..

bench frank trier lee hezonja robinson
I really don't want Burke and Timmy starting together  
bceagle05 : 10/12/2018 10:06 pm : link
but I think they will. Knox is gonna do a lot of watching out there with those two.
RE: I really don't want Burke and Timmy starting together  
nygiants16 : 10/12/2018 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14125695 bceagle05 said:
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but I think they will. Knox is gonna do a lot of watching out there with those two.


i dont either but i think that is how fizdale goes first, with ntlikina first player off the bench
Levert  
hitdog42 : 10/12/2018 10:13 pm : link
Finally got an off-season to train and looks legit
Allen looking like a steal
Kuruks the rookie has game
Solid game from nets
Knox starting  
nygiants16 : 10/12/2018 10:21 pm : link
Fiz basically said he has played like crap but this season is about going through the growing pains...

wont say who is the starting point
Yes he is  
XBRONX : 10/13/2018 6:34 am : link
a rookie.but Knox has really sucked the last two games
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