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If/ When the Giants cut Eli

GoBlue6599 : 10/12/2018 11:37 am
At seasons end does he retire ( imo he should but who am I) or does he look for another team.
How does this play out? Which team ( If any) will commit to him?
Will other teams be on the hook  
SHO'NUFF : 10/12/2018 11:38 am : link
for his salary?
I hope he’s advised  
BBelle21 : 10/12/2018 11:38 am : link
By Peyton, whoever, to go to another team.
any team  
family progtitioner : 10/12/2018 11:39 am : link
would be nuts to sign him. He either retires or he's cut. There's no trading him.
He will retire  
ron mexico : 10/12/2018 11:39 am : link
I can't see another team hitching their wagon to him

I’m sure  
Les in TO : 10/12/2018 11:41 am : link
He will look for another team assuming no health changes. But he’ll have as much success finding a starting job as Coughlin had finding another head coaching job so question is whether he will swallow his pride and backup Bortles or Prescott or will he call it a day? I think if he genuinely believes he can still play he will take a backup role
God forbid  
BBelle21 : 10/12/2018 11:44 am : link
Eli find a team with a decent Oline and run game, and he leads them all the way to the playoffs.
^LOL.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/12/2018 11:45 am : link
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RE: God forbid  
SHO'NUFF : 10/12/2018 11:46 am : link
In comment 14124198 BBelle21 said:
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Eli find a team with a decent Oline and run game, and he leads them all the way to the playoffs.


I would love to see that, and will root for him.
RE: God forbid  
ron mexico : 10/12/2018 11:47 am : link
In comment 14124198 BBelle21 said:
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Eli find a team with a decent Oline and run game, and he leads them all the way to the playoffs.


Out of curiosity, will you follow Eli there?


If Eli lets the season play out  
KeoweeFan : 10/12/2018 11:48 am : link
and he continue to show the same faults that he displayed in some of the games this year, I see him retiring.

After a year or two off, he has the football smarts to do something in a front office or even coaching if he still has the football "bug".

I perceive he has self confidence, but I also think he is not delusional.
I’ll watch the Giants  
BBelle21 : 10/12/2018 11:49 am : link
Because that is my family team. And I’ll also root like hell for Eli. Problem?
SHO’NUFF  
BBelle21 : 10/12/2018 11:50 am : link
I’d love to see that too. So would my entire family.
RE: I’ll watch the Giants  
ron mexico : 10/12/2018 11:52 am : link
In comment 14124223 BBelle21 said:
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Because that is my family team. And I’ll also root like hell for Eli. Problem?


So you will watch the Giants and root for another team...okay



If traded,  
Doomster : 10/12/2018 11:53 am : link
his new team is on the hook for 17M dollars.....

If cut, he is free to negotiate any deal he can get....

But whether traded, cut, or retires, he represents 6.2M in dead money for the Giants....

As I said, in the right situation, I think he can still play.....the Giants, with their OL, are not
RE: He will retire  
Toth029 : 10/12/2018 11:53 am : link
In comment 14124174 ron mexico said:
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I can't see another team hitching their wagon to him

I can't see Eli wanting to play anywhere else.
Enough with the "if Eli goes to a team with a good OL and run game"  
Dave on the UWS : 10/12/2018 11:55 am : link
crap. 1. the trend across the league in mediocre to poor OL. and 2. even with a run game, he's showing he no longer has what it takes to be successful.

It happens, not everyone is Brees or Brady. Most QBs are done at 37. Phil Simms was for example. Marino played if I remember to 38, but was not very good his last year.

This "I can play into my 40's" was always a ridiculous pipe dream
RE: If traded,  
ron mexico : 10/12/2018 11:56 am : link
In comment 14124251 Doomster said:
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his new team is on the hook for 17M dollars.....

If cut, he is free to negotiate any deal he can get....

But whether traded, cut, or retires, he represents 6.2M in dead money for the Giants....

As I said, in the right situation, I think he can still play.....the Giants, with their OL, are not


I think Giants#1 is right.

The aquiring team is only on hook for the prorated amount of his $10 mil salary (and next years roster bonus and salary but if they cut him at the end of the year there will be ho dead cap)

Giants will be on the hook for his 2019 prorated signing bonus less the pro rated amount of his 2018 salary.

So acquiring team takes on 6 mil of cap

Giants will be about a net wash.

But its not happening for soo many reasons

Yes, I will watch the Giants  
BBelle21 : 10/12/2018 11:56 am : link
And root for another team. I also don’t play fantasy football. Ok?
Now why are some triggered  
BBelle21 : 10/12/2018 11:58 am : link
By the idea that a veteran QB can leave his former team and go find a fresh start and success elsewhere?
RE: RE: I’ll watch the Giants  
Giantfan in skinland : 10/12/2018 11:58 am : link
In comment 14124244 ron mexico said:
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Because that is my family team. And I’ll also root like hell for Eli. Problem?



So you will watch the Giants and root for another team...okay




I don't know how anyone could have gone through the last 15 years as a Giants fan and not have a strong attachment to Eli. I've spent his entire career getting crap from my friends for defending him. This last few years have been the worst.

If it can't be here (and I don't see how it could be), I would love for Eli to go elsewhere and have a last hurrah in a better situation.
He won't be cut until the end of the year to save  
Blue21 : 10/12/2018 11:59 am : link
cap space.
RE: Enough with the  
BillKo : 10/12/2018 12:01 pm : link
In comment 14124258 Dave on the UWS said:
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crap. 1. the trend across the league in mediocre to poor OL. and 2. even with a run game, he's showing he no longer has what it takes to be successful.

It happens, not everyone is Brees or Brady. Most QBs are done at 37. Phil Simms was for example. Marino played if I remember to 38, but was not very good his last year.

This "I can play into my 40's" was always a ridiculous pipe dream


Eli is not Brees or Brady, obviously, but both those guys have significantly better block OLs.
RE: RE: RE: I’ll watch the Giants  
GoBlue6599 : 10/12/2018 12:03 pm : link
In comment 14124275 Giantfan in skinland said:
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In comment 14124244 ron mexico said:


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In comment 14124223 BBelle21 said:


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Because that is my family team. And I’ll also root like hell for Eli. Problem?



So you will watch the Giants and root for another team...okay






I don't know how anyone could have gone through the last 15 years as a Giants fan and not have a strong attachment to Eli. I've spent his entire career getting crap from my friends for defending him. This last few years have been the worst.

If it can't be here (and I don't see how it could be), I would love for Eli to go elsewhere and have a last hurrah in a better situation.

I like Eli but I like the Giants more.. In the NFL you can't get attached to any player
I'd root for Eli assuming he doesn't stay inside the division  
jcn56 : 10/12/2018 12:13 pm : link
I hate to see him go out like this, but it hasn't worked with him here for awhile. Some is on him, some is on the team, but the combo of the two doesn't work regardless.
Eli is a back up at this point in his career  
joe48 : 10/12/2018 12:16 pm : link
I do not think he will go to another team because he has little value and he is not going to accept a back up role.
It would be wise for the Giants to accelerate Lauretta’s practice snaps. Get him on the field as soon as possible. Save Eli the embarrassment of having to play out the string.
Giantfan  
BBelle21 : 10/12/2018 12:19 pm : link
Yes, and totally agree. I know some like to act like the uniform is greater than any one player, but I grew up with Eli. That uniform that decorates my Dad’s office. Eli has draped that uniform in glory twice. I mean, give me a break if I’m attached to Eli to the point where I’d wish him success elsewhere. But I can still root for the Giants. At least my attachment comes from the heart. Not like my knuckleheaded brothers who root for other teams and players so they’d win their fantasy points.
Who would sign him?  
Greg from LI : 10/12/2018 12:20 pm : link
What team is going to roll the dice that a 38 year old QB who has been awful magically becomes good again? What near contender is going to bet their season on that?
Like Sy  
BBelle21 : 10/12/2018 12:26 pm : link
And I’m sure many other intelligent football minds out there can plainly see, put Eli behind a serviceable Oline and he will get it done. How quickly people forget last week’s fourth quarter comeback drives.
RE: Enough with the  
HomerJones45 : 10/12/2018 12:30 pm : link
In comment 14124258 Dave on the UWS said:
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crap. 1. the trend across the league in mediocre to poor OL. and 2. even with a run game, he's showing he no longer has what it takes to be successful.

It happens, not everyone is Brees or Brady. Most QBs are done at 37. Phil Simms was for example. Marino played if I remember to 38, but was not very good his last year.

This "I can play into my 40's" was always a ridiculous pipe dream
There's "mediocre", "poor" and then us. "Mediocre" would be an improvement.
RE: Like Sy  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/12/2018 12:32 pm : link
In comment 14124372 BBelle21 said:
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And I’m sure many other intelligent football minds out there can plainly see, put Eli behind a serviceable Oline and he will get it done. How quickly people forget last week’s fourth quarter comeback drives.


The problem is in today's NFL you only have a few of those teams. Jaguars and Cowboys come to mind as fits, but outside of them who is he going to play for in today's NFL with zero mobility?
If he's a free agent and wants to work for a reasonable salary  
arniefez : 10/12/2018 12:35 pm : link
I think he would have some chance to move somewhere else. But I think his options if he has any will be very limited. The Jags need a QB. Denver needs a QB. There may be a few others.
The Cowboys are fascinating. They have an Oline  
BBelle21 : 10/12/2018 12:38 pm : link
But I think Dallas would rather eat salad than have Eli under center for them. I think we would all be very surprised by the team, if this ever came to pass, that would call for him.
RE: ^LOL.  
map7711 : 10/12/2018 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14124201 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Your hate for a guy that has giving us so much is embarrassing
He is going  
Bubba : 10/12/2018 1:24 pm : link
to have to ride of into the sunset at some point. The question is does he do it gracefully or kicking and screaming. His personality would indicate the former.
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