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Giants players frustrated with Eli 'behind closed doors"

lawguy9801 : 10/12/2018 12:56 pm
Will delete if this has been posted

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Eli Manning struggled mightily during the New York Giants' 34-13 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles in Week 6 and his performance might have some of his teammates rumbling behind the scenes.

According to ESPN's Jordan Raanan, behind the scenes, Giants players are starting to question whether or not Manning still has what it takes to lead his team to a victory on a consistent basis every week.

"Behind closed doors, several Giants players have expressed frustration with Manning's performance, according to sources," Raanan wrote, via ESPN. "One player specifically commented recently about Manning’s inability to do anything against Cover 2 and zone defenses."

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This is prob true  
Jim Bur(n)t : 10/12/2018 12:59 pm : link
Eli no longer sees the field - He only sees blitzes.
I'm happy for Jordan  
NoPeanutz : 10/12/2018 1:01 pm : link
he finally got his big break.
This article may not have been posted, but it is just a rewrite...  
DonQuixote : 10/12/2018 1:01 pm : link
of Raanan's piece on the erosion of Eli...
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RE: This article may not have been posted, but it is just a rewrite...  
lawguy9801 : 10/12/2018 1:06 pm : link
In comment 14124556 DonQuixote said:
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of Raanan's piece on the erosion of Eli... Lonk - ( New Window )


Read this as well....brutal, but unfortunately it rings true.
right or wrong  
LG in NYC : 10/12/2018 1:08 pm : link
Rannaan is all in on the "Eli is Done" train.

Heard him on Sirius NFL yesterday morning and he was going on and on about Eli being the main cause of the struggles.
RE: right or wrong  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/12/2018 1:12 pm : link
In comment 14124584 LG in NYC said:
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Rannaan is all in on the "Eli is Done" train.

Heard him on Sirius NFL yesterday morning and he was going on and on about Eli being the main cause of the struggles.



I mean...can you really disagree with him?
Just boggles the mind the satisfaction  
JCin332 : 10/12/2018 1:13 pm : link
some "fans" are getting from Eli's demise..
RE: right or wrong  
NoPeanutz : 10/12/2018 1:15 pm : link
In comment 14124584 LG in NYC said:
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Rannaan is all in on the "Eli is Done" train.

Heard him on Sirius NFL yesterday morning and he was going on and on about Eli being the main cause of the struggles.

It's what the National Media has been waiting to hear, and Raanan is happy to be the "Eli is Done" guy now that somebody is reading his stuff. He'll ride that train all the way to the top. Maybe they'll even give him a chair on Around The Horn.
RE: RE: right or wrong  
dep026 : 10/12/2018 1:15 pm : link
In comment 14124609 DC Gmen Fan said:
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In comment 14124584 LG in NYC said:


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Rannaan is all in on the "Eli is Done" train.

Heard him on Sirius NFL yesterday morning and he was going on and on about Eli being the main cause of the struggles.




I mean...can you really disagree with him?


Yes I can. OL and the defense are as big if not bigger problems. But Jordan isnt smart enough to write an article like that because it would mean research.
"One player specifically commented "  
GiantEgo : 10/12/2018 1:16 pm : link
Wonder if he was hooked to an IV at the time.
jCIN  
NewBlue : 10/12/2018 1:18 pm : link
tOTALLY False....No one is getting pleasure from this.
I love Eli Manning or what he has done for this franchise and I respect him for how he carries himself. I would venture to say that 99 percent of those who post here the Manning has had it, take no joy from saying this.
dep  
NewBlue : 10/12/2018 1:20 pm : link
Stop with the OL already.......go and watch other OL's on Sunday, watch some jail breaks that always happen, then watch QB's with escapability
It's going  
Jerry in DC : 10/12/2018 1:24 pm : link
To be a very awkward remainder of the season. It's not eli's fault - he just got older and isnt good anymore.

But you can see where the other guys are coming from. Eli hasn't been good for a while. And it's been a long time since his post season success. Some of these guys were teenagers when the giants won super bowls.

So they see a guy making a ton of money who is obviously tight with management and ownership who can't play anymore. They know how ownership stepped in on his behalf last year. And they also see other guys, guys who they are probably closer to personally who got cut or aren't going to make that much money in their careers. Or guys who are good now while the team is being held back by terrible QB play. And theres a real disconnect there.

It's a bad situation and it's going to get uncomfortable.
RE: jCIN  
Jim Bur(n)t : 10/12/2018 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14124631 NewBlue said:
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tOTALLY False....No one is getting pleasure from this.
I love Eli Manning or what he has done for this franchise and I respect him for how he carries himself. I would venture to say that 99 percent of those who post here the Manning has had it, take no joy from saying this.


Totally agree... You may love a pet, and take no pleasure in putting it down if it's the right thing to do. The fact remains that the end has come.
Who is saying this?  
BBelle21 : 10/12/2018 1:27 pm : link
Put your name to it. Mostly want to know because I think Jordan is kind of full of sh!t
RE: dep  
DonQuixote : 10/12/2018 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14124638 NewBlue said:
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Stop with the OL already.......go and watch other OL's on Sunday, watch some jail breaks that always happen, then watch QB's with escapability


The first TD last night was just such a play...No chance Eli makes a play like this.


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This is exhibit fucking A  
djm : 10/12/2018 1:30 pm : link
Why qb stats can be the most misleading stat there is.

Eli’s stats in 2005-2007 pissed off a lot of giants fans yet the guy was winning! Averaging approx 10 wins per year yet all we heard was idiotic over analytical asshole fans rip this guy apart day after day.

Eli’s stats in 2014-2015 were terrific yet the giants lost a lot. Stats weren’t as good in 2016 yet the team won. Stats are gonna he swell this year yet the giants won’t win 6 games.

Lies damn lies and statistics. Learn your lesson.
RE: dep  
dep026 : 10/12/2018 1:32 pm : link
In comment 14124638 NewBlue said:
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Stop with the OL already.......go and watch other OL's on Sunday, watch some jail breaks that always happen, then watch QB's with escapability


Seriously. Shut up. I watch more than enough football to know our OLs is one of the worst in football. Your idea that jailbreaks "always" happen is full of shit. They dont ALWAYS happen. And there are a LOT of good OLs in the league. Many that are MUCH MUCH MUCH better than ours.

Get out of here with that shit already.
Wentz is very good  
GiantEgo : 10/12/2018 1:32 pm : link
But he could easily have had 3 turnovers last night with a different bounce of the ball. He is a bit reckless at times
RE: Just boggles the mind the satisfaction  
Mark C : 10/12/2018 1:35 pm : link
In comment 14124612 JCin332 said:
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some "fans" are getting from Eli's demise..


Eli's been bad for four years. That "satisfaction" you're sensing on the part of others is most likely coming from the fact that, after last night, the unconditional Eli apologists are finally starting to accept reality.
TOBJ is at the root of this...  
trueblueinpw : 10/12/2018 1:37 pm : link
No doubt in my mind. He was just on ESPN with lil Wayne saying the same shit. It’s not a fucking who done it mystery. Let the TOBJ show roll on. Fucking disgrace that Eli’s going out with fuck wads throwing him under the bus. How did the Giants fall so far down the shitter?
Watch what happens  
NewBlue : 10/12/2018 1:38 pm : link
When Manning has time to throw, because with all the yelling and screaming there are many times he does......his mechanics are fucked up, his accuracy sucks, his relationship with his receivers seems out of sync.

Remember when McAdoo  
NewBlue : 10/12/2018 1:41 pm : link
Was referencing that there are very few clean pockets in the NFL these days, I know what he was inferring, and the league knows it also, move on please. No disrespect intended here, but there is and end date on all.
RE: jCIN  
Justlurking : 10/12/2018 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14124631 NewBlue said:
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tOTALLY False....No one is getting pleasure from this.
I love Eli Manning or what he has done for this franchise and I respect him for how he carries himself. I would venture to say that 99 percent of those who post here the Manning has had it, take no joy from saying this.


Eli is my all time favorite Giant. But that player is long gone. He’s toast and they need to move on.
RE: TOBJ is at the root of this...  
ajr2456 : 10/12/2018 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14124713 trueblueinpw said:
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No doubt in my mind. He was just on ESPN with lil Wayne saying the same shit. It’s not a fucking who done it mystery. Let the TOBJ show roll on. Fucking disgrace that Eli’s going out with fuck wads throwing him under the bus. How did the Giants fall so far down the shitter?


Maybe if he played better he wouldn't be going out like this. Just a thought.
This board is funny  
WideRight : 10/12/2018 2:03 pm : link
Eli has never been consistent from game to game. He is however remarkably consistent from season to season


He has always laid eggs at some point in every season, and for whatever reason alot of those eggs come against the Eagles.

He will finish the season where he always does. 3000-3500yds, 60% completion. 25 tD, 15-20 INT
Giants don't have to worry  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/12/2018 2:04 pm : link
about facing jailbreaks because defenses only need to send four guys to get quick pressure on Eli.

A Jailbreak would be great! Eli would have the same amount of time to throw but at least there would be fewer guys in coverage.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/12/2018 2:05 pm : link
They should be. I love the man, but he sucks right now. If you don't think so, you're lying to yourself.
RE: It's going  
cosmicj : 10/12/2018 2:07 pm : link
In comment 14124657 Jerry in DC said:
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But you can see where the other guys are coming from. Eli hasn't been good for a while. So they see a guy making a ton of money who is obviously tight with management and ownership who can't play anymore. They know how ownership stepped in on his behalf last year. And they also see other guys, guys who they are probably closer to personally who got cut or aren't going to make that much money in their careers. Or guys who are good now while the team is being held back by terrible QB play. And theres a real disconnect there.


Great comment. If that happened at my job, I'd be very unhappy, and my job doesn't involve physical harm and a career that could end on any given play.
Hey...  
Grey Pilgrim : 10/12/2018 2:07 pm : link
This was already posted in the thread below.

RE: This board is funny  
ajr2456 : 10/12/2018 2:08 pm : link
In comment 14124818 WideRight said:
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Eli has never been consistent from game to game. He is however remarkably consistent from season to season


He has always laid eggs at some point in every season, and for whatever reason alot of those eggs come against the Eagles.

He will finish the season where he always does. 3000-3500yds, 60% completion. 25 tD, 15-20 INT


Kidding right?
RE: Just boggles the mind the satisfaction  
Mdgiantsfan : 10/12/2018 2:30 pm : link
In comment 14124612 JCin332 said:
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some "fans" are getting from Eli's demise..


Are you pleased with his play? I love Eli but his play has not been good.
I knew at some point bullshit like this would come out in this period  
The_Boss : 10/12/2018 2:32 pm : link
of 10 days until the next game. I didn't think it would be about 12 hours after the game though. These players are cowards who would rather shit on the only guy in that locker room who knows about winning instead of looking in the fucking mirror. This is precisely why this team is so god damn unlikable.
RE: Just boggles the mind the satisfaction  
V.I.G. : 10/12/2018 3:05 pm : link
In comment 14124612 JCin332 said:
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some "fans" are getting from Eli's demise..

trust me there is no satisfaction here. but being objective and correct on Eli's demise - doesn't make you a " "fan" ".

you can be both a fan and objective. try it.
Outside of zak deossie  
giantsFC : 10/12/2018 11:19 pm : link
Nobody on this team was part of it when Eli Manning was single handily carrying them through huge upset playoff wins.

So yeah I bet everyone of these diva spoiled me first stars is blaming the old guy now.

All I can say is I don’t see these selfish players as a correlation to winning super bowls w any QB thst comes in bc they are already so spoiled and weak-minded and don’t have the team mentality it takes to win.

Eli needs to be replaced, but I don’t see the core of this team thst is tainted by Odell Beckham ever winning anything until he is gone,

I said it from his first year on other sites, it’s very hard to win championships w diva me-first wide receivers.
RE: I knew at some point bullshit like this would come out in this period  
giantsFC : 10/12/2018 11:25 pm : link
In comment 14124900 The_Boss said:
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of 10 days until the next game. I didn't think it would be about 12 hours after the game though. These players are cowards who would rather shit on the only guy in that locker room who knows about winning instead of looking in the fucking mirror. This is precisely why this team is so god damn unlikable.


True. And this culture won’t change w the supposed changed ODB running the show.

He hasn't changed at all, he just got smart and shut his nought until he got paid
There are alot bigger problems with this franchise  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/12/2018 11:27 pm : link
than the 'chatter' that may or may not be true.

Like...winning.

Win some fucking games. And to the owner/front office, FIX THE TEAM. They've had 6 years to fix it. Now, actually do it. How inept are they? THAT's the real problem. But simple minds get distracted to what the real issues are.
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