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USAF NYG Fan : 10/12/2018 3:56 pm
And I will likely get blasted for this ....

Talk to the Ravens about Lamar Jackson. From scouting reports, all he needed was to work on his footwork (which caused some accuracy issues) and some time in an NFL strength and conditioning program. You want a more mobile QB? Can't get more mobile than Lamar. Rocket arm. He can make the difficult throws. Barkley and Jackson could really tire out and give fits to todays' DLs.

Go ahead. Tell me I'm crazy.

What would it take to get him since the Ravens may think he's their heir apparent to Flacco?

BTW, I love Eli Manning so don't think I am bashing him at all with this post. An heir apparent is needed regardless. I'd rather be put on blast about wanting Lamar then read anymore I hate/love Eli Manning threads. I'm just asking for opinions on going after Lamar Jackson. Please and thank you.
They drafted  
ajr2456 : 10/12/2018 3:57 pm : link
him to groom him to replace Flacco. No shot they trade him
no thanks  
Jay on the Island : 10/12/2018 3:57 pm : link
I wasn't a fan of his back in the draft and nothing he has done so far has changed my mind. Wait until April to get our QB.
Yeah.  
Beezer : 10/12/2018 3:57 pm : link
They'd probably give him up. Good plan.
They aren't dealing him  
HoustonGiant : 10/12/2018 3:57 pm : link
He's their future as of now
Why?  
terz22 : 10/12/2018 3:58 pm : link
Hes unproven and hes on the ravens so youd have to trade for him. Just stay the course let this horrible season end and take the best QB. Luckily for us dont see anyone else beating us out for that top spot.
Why be satisfied with Jackson  
pjcas18 : 10/12/2018 3:59 pm : link
why not Mahomes or Mayfield?
I say we get Rodgers  
jcn56 : 10/12/2018 4:00 pm : link
when he's not playing, he could strike a deal with the Olive Garden in Times Square to let him stand by the window and do the Discount Double Check.
RE: Why be satisfied with Jackson  
Jay on the Island : 10/12/2018 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14125186 pjcas18 said:
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why not Mahomes or Mayfield?

Why not both??
RE: RE: Why be satisfied with Jackson  
bigbluehoya : 10/12/2018 4:04 pm : link
In comment 14125195 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14125186 pjcas18 said:


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why not Mahomes or Mayfield?


Why not both??


They almost have to go this route if we really want to see them run pass-run-pass option.
RE: Why be satisfied with Jackson  
chuckydee9 : 10/12/2018 4:04 pm : link
In comment 14125186 pjcas18 said:
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why not Mahomes or Mayfield?


Nice reply..
How about Nick Foles?  
Pete in MD : 10/12/2018 4:10 pm : link
UFA after this year, Super Bowl MVP, has had success with Shurmur in the past. It’s not that crazy.
LOL  
USAF NYG Fan : 10/12/2018 4:15 pm : link
Really? You guys really exaggerate you're opposing opinions. Rogers, Mahommes, Mayfield? I didn't think it would be cheap but I didn't think he would get comparisons like those either. Fair enough. I asked for it but I still think its possible and feasible.
RE: How about Nick Foles?  
chopperhatch : 10/12/2018 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14125230 Pete in MD said:
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UFA after this year, Super Bowl MVP, has had success with Shurmur in the past. It’s not that crazy.


Hes going to get bog money from somebody. I dont want to pay him millions. Our team has too many holes. We need to draft the quarterback, let him play on a rookie deal, and build a team around him. Spend FA money on the lime. Draft well and we can be back in 2 or 3 years.

Last night let me realize that just patching up this team will not have us even competing with best teams in the let alone become one of them.

Good news is we really dont have to blow it all up. We already have a couple of stars long term. Now we need the baby eaters up front and some secondary. Apple looked good and if Beal plays as good as he apparently looked in college, we might not have that long to go.
Is this a serious thread?  
Anakim : 10/12/2018 4:18 pm : link
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RE: How about Nick Foles?  
Jay on the Island : 10/12/2018 4:25 pm : link
In comment 14125230 Pete in MD said:
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UFA after this year, Super Bowl MVP, has had success with Shurmur in the past. It’s not that crazy.

This makes sense if he is willing to sign a 1 year deal. If he was then that would allow the Giants to draft and sit Herbert while actually attempting to make a run at the playoffs. I wouldn't want to plan on Foles being a long term option. He was very good in the playoffs but he hasn't been able to play well on a consistent basis.
We should just trade for Darnold  
Giants in 07 : 10/12/2018 4:25 pm : link
That way we end up with both Barkley and Darnold.

Gettleman asleep at the wheel as always
A much more realistic suggestion, imo...  
Dan in the Springs : 10/12/2018 4:31 pm : link
would be Sam Bradford. He's due to make $20MM next yr for AZ and cutting him would save $15MM in cap space for them. I could see Shurmur and Gettleman bringing him in for a time.

Teddy Bridgewater is another. He's scheduled to be a FA after this year (March 3) and if I understand correctly he cannot be resigned prior due to his contract being rewritten already this year.

Another one would be Tyrod Taylor. He's the kind of guy you could get to come in here and maybe give you a chance for a few games or so while you wait for a younger player with more long-term potential to develop. He's also an UFA after this season.
...  
Toth029 : 10/12/2018 4:35 pm : link
Nothing special about Tyrod, Teddy or Sam. Case Keenum is probably gone next year too. He's also nothing special.

Besides, Saints traded a 3rd for Teddy. He isn't going anywhere. And people act like he lit it up in Minnesota for some reason.
RE: A much more realistic suggestion, imo...  
Jay on the Island : 10/12/2018 4:35 pm : link
In comment 14125304 Dan in the Springs said:
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would be Sam Bradford. He's due to make $20MM next yr for AZ and cutting him would save $15MM in cap space for them. I could see Shurmur and Gettleman bringing him in for a time.

Teddy Bridgewater is another. He's scheduled to be a FA after this year (March 3) and if I understand correctly he cannot be resigned prior due to his contract being rewritten already this year.

Another one would be Tyrod Taylor. He's the kind of guy you could get to come in here and maybe give you a chance for a few games or so while you wait for a younger player with more long-term potential to develop. He's also an UFA after this season.

Bradford makes sense if he is willing to sign for 1 year around 4-5 million with incentives. He was having his best season under Shurmur before he got hurt. He would be a decent stopgap although I would prefer a cheaper option like Fitzpatrick who knows his role. Josh McCown is another cheap solid option. He is a great mentor and basically another coach on the field at this point. He has fully embraced the mentor role and he played surprisingly well when he's been on the field.
Sam Bradford??  
Gman11 : 10/12/2018 4:37 pm : link
Don't you think the team doctor is busy enough as it is?
RE: Sam Bradford??  
chopperhatch : 10/12/2018 4:42 pm : link
In comment 14125319 Gman11 said:
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Don't you think the team doctor is busy enough as it is?



Hahahaha
I would rather  
chopperhatch : 10/12/2018 4:43 pm : link
Just let Lauletta have next year to see if he stays as a back up while the new guy watches him run for his life.
RE: ...  
Dan in the Springs : 10/12/2018 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14125315 Toth029 said:
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Nothing special about Tyrod, Teddy or Sam. Case Keenum is probably gone next year too. He's also nothing special.

Besides, Saints traded a 3rd for Teddy. He isn't going anywhere. And people act like he lit it up in Minnesota for some reason.


Bridgewater will be a FA. He just restructured his contract in September to free up some cap space. The terms of the restructure were that his remaining years are now voided as of 3/3/2019. He cannot be restructured again.


Check this out for details
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So Bridgewater is on a one-year contract with some small future salary cap hits, nothing more. Once March 3 arrives, he’s free to negotiate with other teams and potentially leave New Orleans.


Will the Saints try to resign him? Sure. But he will be available, and the fact that they gave up a 3rd rounder for him means nothing.
RE: ...  
Dan in the Springs : 10/12/2018 4:52 pm : link
In comment 14125315 Toth029 said:
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Nothing special about Tyrod, Teddy or Sam. Case Keenum is probably gone next year too. He's also nothing special.

Besides, Saints traded a 3rd for Teddy. He isn't going anywhere. And people act like he lit it up in Minnesota for some reason.


Also, I'm not suggesting the Giants are going to find someone "special" for next year. I'm suggesting that if they plan to draft a replacement, they might want to bring in a vet who can take pressure off the rookie while he develops.

I know that Bradford is perennially injured. The idea behind signing him is not to be Eli's long-term replacement, but to do what he did in AZ for as long as he can.

Bradford might not be available, but it seems certain that they won't want to pay him $20MM to sit on the sideline.

Also, the fact that both Bridgewater and Bradford have experience playing for Shurmur makes signing them more plausible.

Look, I'm not suggesting these things are certain to happen or are the best-case scenarios. I'm trying to offer up more realistic QB signings in case the Giants move on from Eli after this year.
I agree with Chopperhatch  
joeinpa : 10/12/2018 4:55 pm : link
Time for Lauletta or the new young guy
Absolutely NOT  
BigBlue4You09 : 10/12/2018 4:58 pm : link
Even if we did want him they traded up to get him, why would they trade him?
I really  
mattyblue : 10/12/2018 5:49 pm : link
don’t want Foles. I really hope it never comes to that
There is more of a chance  
B in ALB : 10/12/2018 5:51 pm : link
that the Giants create a time machine, go back to the draft, and trade up for Baker Mayfield.

But good job, good effort.
Didn’t the Ravens trade up to take LJ?  
Section331 : 10/12/2018 5:55 pm : link
Either way, he is almost certainly their starting QB next year.
RE: Didn’t the Ravens trade up to take LJ?  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/12/2018 6:25 pm : link
In comment 14125479 Section331 said:
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Either way, he is almost certainly their starting QB next year.

They traded up in front of us to take Lamjax. I lulzed at the time, but now I thought about it more, seems like it was a real possibility we pick him.

Hernandez is a good consolation prize.
All In On - Will Grier  
ChicagoGiant : 10/12/2018 6:30 pm : link
They can grab a great DL in Round 1 and select Will by jumping back into round 1 by trading some assets. He is a winner and a great leader. Has all the tools to be a solid QB
RE: RE: A much more realistic suggestion, imo...  
gmenatlarge : 10/12/2018 6:44 pm : link
In comment 14125316 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14125304 Dan in the Springs said:


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would be Sam Bradford. He's due to make $20MM next yr for AZ and cutting him would save $15MM in cap space for them. I could see Shurmur and Gettleman bringing him in for a time.

Teddy Bridgewater is another. He's scheduled to be a FA after this year (March 3) and if I understand correctly he cannot be resigned prior due to his contract being rewritten already this year.

Another one would be Tyrod Taylor. He's the kind of guy you could get to come in here and maybe give you a chance for a few games or so while you wait for a younger player with more long-term potential to develop. He's also an UFA after this season.


Bradford makes sense if he is willing to sign for 1 year around 4-5 million with incentives. He was having his best season under Shurmur before he got hurt. He would be a decent stopgap although I would prefer a cheaper option like Fitzpatrick who knows his role. Josh McCown is another cheap solid option. He is a great mentor and basically another coach on the field at this point. He has fully embraced the mentor role and he played surprisingly well when he's been on the field.


Sam Bradford. Behind the giants O-line!!!! BWAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
RE: RE: How about Nick Foles?  
mdc1 : 10/12/2018 9:36 pm : link
In comment 14125288 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14125230 Pete in MD said:


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UFA after this year, Super Bowl MVP, has had success with Shurmur in the past. It’s not that crazy.


This makes sense if he is willing to sign a 1 year deal. If he was then that would allow the Giants to draft and sit Herbert while actually attempting to make a run at the playoffs. I wouldn't want to plan on Foles being a long term option. He was very good in the playoffs but he hasn't been able to play well on a consistent basis.


this would be a good stop gap considering the flaming ashes we will be looking at soon and Eli finality. How badly this org has screwed the QB pos is astounding. Might be us some time and he knows the system.
Every QB in this thread  
Chip : 10/12/2018 9:50 pm : link
Sucks and a total waste of cap space. Get your QB in April.
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