The season is effectively over....many teams view the time after a Thursday Night game as a mini bye. Do they make the change to the hand picked rookie now?
Luckily for Shurmur, the last regime took the heat for ending Eli's game streak, so this would simply be a move for the future that many fans would be fine with.
Yes we will lose most of the games, but at this point I'm rooting for the #1 pick, so that works out fine. We see if we have something in Lauletta and start to plan for the post Manning era... at this point why wait...sucks to say it because I have love for Manning, but it's time
No its not the time. The time is after the bye.
Maybe after the actual bye week, Lauletta can sub in in the second half when the game is out of hand. I doubt the fan outcry will be much this time around.
He might suck, but part of me thinka he may be able to make some plays with his feet, which Eli can’t, and Shurmur will be forced to run Barkley more.
If Manning continues to shit the bed, yank him after the bye regardless. Put in Tanney. anybody. It would probably be an act of kindness to bench him and not subject him to physical punishment and humiliation.
The teams should do something really special for Manning during at the Redskins game and have the orderly transition to Lauletta a grown up team does.
Muck up what? So if he somehow didn't coach up a 4th round pick from Richmond into Tom Brady after like 8 weeks of the NFL season he mucked it up????
I never heard that, or got that impression. They took a flier on a player that has some ability, but most likely his upside is as a cheap back-up.
2. We are still just 2 games out of first place.
3. Putting another QB in there sends a message to the rest of the team and the fans that we are giving up on the season to prepare another QB for next year.
4. Based upon #2^, management is not going to give up on the season yet.
5. If it happens, it will be done after we are mathematically eliminated whenever that is.
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And he changed QBs after the away loss to the Cards ( I was at the game) while still being in the playoff hunt at 5-4
So other than for the personal entertainment value to fans for whom the backup qb is the most popular player on the team, there is no purpose to it.
2. We are still just 2 games out of first place.
3. Putting another QB in there sends a message to the rest of the team and the fans that we are giving up on the season to prepare another QB for next year.
4. Based upon #2^, management is not going to give up on the season yet.
5. If it happens, it will be done after we are mathematically eliminated whenever that is.
Please stop with the "only x amount of games out of first" nonsense.
Just stop.
So other than for the personal entertainment value to fans for whom the backup qb is the most popular player on the team, there is no purpose to it.
Because you have to see what the kid you drafted has. It really isn't a hard concept.
If they had gotten Webb ready to play last year they would have cut him before the draft most likely and Lauletta would have gotten more important reps in the preseason.
They couldn't cut Webb because they didn't get him on the field last year.
2. We are still just 2 games out of first place.
3. Putting another QB in there sends a message to the rest of the team and the fans that we are giving up on the season to prepare another QB for next year.
4. Based upon #2^, management is not going to give up on the season yet.
5. If it happens, it will be done after we are mathematically eliminated whenever that is.
This is it. They will not do anything drastic until we are mathematically eliminated. If that comes soon, then there is lots of time to explore what we have later in the season. If that comes later, it is because we put a run together (as unlikely as that sounds).
If the best guy we have is currently playing and is averaging 1 TD a game (7 points), can we really do any worse? At least if someone else is back there and we still continue to look this BAD, it's easier to explain. Time to move on!
Maybe after the actual bye week, Lauletta can sub in in the second half when the game is out of hand. I doubt the fan outcry will be much this time around.
He might suck, but part of me thinka he may be able to make some plays with his feet, which Eli can’t, and Shurmur will be forced to run Barkley more.
When you say Lauletta isn't ready, can he really be worse than what we're getting from the $20 million dollar man? You understand Eli has thrown 6 Td's in 6 games.
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2. We are still just 2 games out of first place.
3. Putting another QB in there sends a message to the rest of the team and the fans that we are giving up on the season to prepare another QB for next year.
4. Based upon #2^, management is not going to give up on the season yet.
5. If it happens, it will be done after we are mathematically eliminated whenever that is.
So keeping Eli in there when he is clearly a liablity at this point sends a message that we are trying to win? You think the guys in the locker room not named Pat Shurmur have confidence in Eli Manning? SMH
Manning's Play stinks...and it needs to be better if they're gonna plan on fixing things around him. Otherwise, He's part of the Problem and not part of the fix.
The OL needs to keep the offense on the fireld and in the end zone....keep our D off the Field.
The Receiever position is O'Dell and "some guys"--- accept the fact that it's not more than that, and it's not good enough. That can change with Engram's return.
Obviously the Pass Rush and D Backs need some help.
I believe this roster is better than last year---but it's unsettled. Additionally, I'm wondering if they're gonna bail. NFL VETS do not make for good campers on deep losers.
They have to see what we have in him and maybe wont have to draft a QB next draft although I really didnt want to see him play till next season so he can work on his arm strength and professional coaching(which he never had coming from a bad football college)
With coaching and time to develop his arm strength he will be a monster
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Maybe after the actual bye week, Lauletta can sub in in the second half when the game is out of hand. I doubt the fan outcry will be much this time around.
He might suck, but part of me thinka he may be able to make some plays with his feet, which Eli can’t, and Shurmur will be forced to run Barkley more.
When you say Lauletta isn't ready, can he really be worse than what we're getting from the $20 million dollar man? You understand Eli has thrown 6 Td's in 6 games.
That's not the point. No one thinks KL is better than Eli right now. But at some point a young QB will need to take his lumps learning the position at the pro level. Might as well use this season to do that if the team continues to struggle.
Easy to say season is over. Do you remember a few seasons back I think Giants began 0-6 or 0-5, won a few games and actually had a game against Dallas that would have put them within legitimate reach of the division
It seemed just as unlikely then as it does now
Easy to say season is over. Do you remember a few seasons back I think Giants began 0-6 or 0-5, won a few games and actually had a game against Dallas that would have put them within legitimate reach of the division
It seemed just as unlikely then as it does now
Remind me how that game against Dallas turned out.... on 2nd thought dont.
Kidding aside I agree it's way too early now. After they bye would be nice to give him two weeks but that will also probably be too early.
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1. The team looks like we are the worst team in the league
2. We are still just 2 games out of first place.
3. Putting another QB in there sends a message to the rest of the team and the fans that we are giving up on the season to prepare another QB for next year.
4. Based upon #2^, management is not going to give up on the season yet.
5. If it happens, it will be done after we are mathematically eliminated whenever that is.
So keeping Eli in there when he is clearly a liablity at this point sends a message that we are trying to win? You think the guys in the locker room not named Pat Shurmur have confidence in Eli Manning? SMH
To you and ajr who responded to me earlier. This is not what I would do if I was running the team. I was merely stating why they are not going to pull Eli now and what THEIR line of thinking most likely is right now.
So, you can both stop challenging me with your questions on the merits of keeping Eli behind center. If it were up to me, I would get Lauletta some first string snaps over the next few weeks and would put him in after the bye.
Easy to say season is over. Do you remember a few seasons back I think Giants began 0-6 or 0-5, won a few games and actually had a game against Dallas that would have put them within legitimate reach of the division
It seemed just as unlikely then as it does now
That's so not true. Coughlin conceded a 5-4 season to get a rookie QB on the field.
For me? I'd give playing time to players who could benefit from the experience starting now. That's true for the QB and all positions on the team.
But, having said that, I do not for one minute believe that playing Lauletta has anything whatsoever to do with the selection of Manning's successor. That player is likely to be drafted in the first round in the immediate future.
You want to see Lauletta play some this year, in some capacity, just to get his feet wet.
So, first thing is he should be elevated to the #2 - after the bye week - so he can actually get into a game and be closer to what is actually happening on the field.
He certainly then should play in blowout - either way - and perhaps even start a few games depending on what happens as we go. Eli could get nicked up, the offense could go even more downhill (although I doubt it). This helps to evaluate his ability, and if he's a competent backup for next year's team (or, luckily, even something beyond a backup).
This is all predicated on the belief he's actually ready to play in a real NFL game - not a the scrimmages they played in August. If he's not ready, then Eli easily goes the rest of the year full time.
Tanney should not be considered at all......unless there's an injury.