I get it, a lot has gone wrong this season and people will soon start to say, oh you can't judge him for this season as it was the talent level or the offensive line or Eli.
But that does not absolve the coach of any blame or criticism and I think it's very fair to wonder if we have the right coach in place for the rebuild.
I also think it's important to separate the HC from the playcaller here. I'm focusing this post on his HC decisions although his play calling all year has been very questionable with his abandoning the run and consistently calling plays that throw the ball short of the first down sticks or end zone.
Going from the most recent games back towards the beginning of the season.
Philly
1. Not going for it on 4th and goal after the roughing the passer penalty on Eli was a horrible decision in my mind. The mentality of this team is too often to check down and settle rather than push and dictate. This was a prime example.
2. Attempting the 50+ yard field goal with an injured Rosas. Now FOX did a poor job here as I don't recall they showed where he was kicking from in pregame, but the coach needs to know what distance his kicker can reach from. There was still time on the clock to mount a drive and get closer if they went for it on 4th (also calling the run 2 plays earlier when you only had 1 timeout was a HORRIBLE decision).
3. At the end of the game, why is OBJ back there returning punts when the game was well beyond reach? What is the purpose of that?
Carolina
1. On OBJ's muffed punt return, why is he back there in that instance? He is not a veteran or full time returner. He should be back there only in situations where a big return is needed or a possibility.
2. He had horrible time management at the end of the first half not knowing when to use timeouts.
New Orleans
1. Horrible play calling getting away from the run. I know I said I wouldn't get into that here, but it was SOOO bad this game I had to say it.
2. On the Gallman fumble Barkley had like 5 touches in that game at that point. He should have been in the game not Gallman.
Texans
- Nothing sticks out as being a bad job by him in this game.
Dallas
1. Not going for it on the 4th down right around midfield and then GOING for the 4th down at his own 40. Neither decision appeared correct or to make any sense at all.
Jacksonville
1. End of the game it should have been Barkley or OBJ returning the punt which was muffed.
Additional Overall Comment
Are we sure he's doing the right thing not getting Lauletta ANY practice snaps to date?
I was thinking like a game or two. Name one thing he has done well? On the field or off? Free agent signings are a bust. Drafted the wrong guy. Not that Barkley isnt amazing but certainly not what we need the most for a long term winning organization. Team does not even look like it practices, on offense or defense. What is their scheme? Do they have a scheme or do we just chase receivers across the field all day? Why cant an O-lineman get in the way of a rusher even for a second? What are we teaching these guys?
and i think this team does come out motivated. but when you have a line that can't block and qb who can't play, it may give the appearance of lack of effort, but i don't think they weren't trying or came out flat once this season
Did you expect a 3-13 team with major changes was automatically going to win a bunch of games? No. This team would be bad with any coach. And no, Barkley wasn't the wrong pick, he is one of the best weapons in football already, so stop. We'll get the QB this off-season and in 2 years you can start judging this group.
Btw nobody is winning with Eli at QB. And calling plays short of the sticks? Stop it. Just because Eli is captain check down right now doesn't mean Shurmur's play call was supposed to be short of the sticks. There is nothing wrong with the play-calling. Shurmur isn't perfect, no one is, but 6 games in and we get this shit. Unbelievable. This team was always going to be a loser, with any coach. It's year one of a 2-3 year rebuild. Get used to it and sit tf down.
It wasn't a great year to find a coach. If you can find better this offseason then can him and move on
I Thought the main reason he got the job was because they were going to go QB at 2 and he would be groomed by Shurmur.
He took the job and was very willing to discuss how happy he was to coach Eli. This is his QB.
second, i'm not saying fire him. but i'm saying we need to start really analyzing him and cannot afford to make excuses for him to not judge his performance as the HC. simply being "classy" and "an adult" is not enough
2 years from now you will have drafted HIS QB and filled the roster with HIS players. then you may bring in a new HC who will want HIS guys and you are in a perpetual state of rebuilding
Nobody on this board needs to be analyzing Shurmur, nor are they really capable of analyzing him, although some may be deluded into thinking they are.
But after 6 games he still scheme to beat the Cover 2
But after 6 games he still scheme to beat the Cover 2
Jeez the lag in this phone..
*Shurmur
* still cant scheme to beat the Cover 2
Mcadoo 2.0 but without the ability to come up with cool slogans like "taking care of the Duke".
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BB-lite with ingame adjustments and changing gamescripts depending on the opposing defense that had me excited.
But after 6 games he still scheme to beat the Cover 2
Jeez the lag in this phone..
*Shurmur
* still cant scheme to beat the Cover 2
Someone who cant beat Cover 2 doesn't deserve to have his name spelt correctly.
But after 6 games he still scheme to beat the Cover 2
You can't even spell his name, fail, shit opinion.
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Fairly judge Shurmur until his 2nd year with his quarterback.
He took the job and was very willing to discuss how happy he was to coach Eli. This is his QB.
TTH, he would've said that about any incumbent with no other obvious choice on the roster, much less someone with the pedigree and history of Eli Manning in NY. To have said anything otherwise would've been a terrible mistake and actually would've made him look like he didn't know what he was doing, i.e., job too big for him.
- BP
Crennel went 10-6 one season in Cleveland. The two years before that he won 10 games. Just saying.
And more importantly, so did George Young. If he could have got his man, Parcells would have been fired.
With no adjustments.
This team should be a power run team with deep shots.
2 TE/ FB - max protect.
He runs too much out of shotgun.
Also Shula was a lousy hire.
With no adjustments.
This team should be a power run team with deep shots.
2 TE/ FB - max protect.
He runs too much out of shotgun.
Also Shula was a lousy hire.
I think this is a great post.
I really thought, with Barkley, we'd be running from under center a ton, with play action a vital part of our deception.
I wonder what % we've run play action this season....and in comparison to other teams.
I'm willing to give Shurmur 16 games. I am hoping, adjustments are still to come to this work in progress.
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He has done nothing to match a system to the personal.
With no adjustments.
This team should be a power run team with deep shots.
2 TE/ FB - max protect.
He runs too much out of shotgun.
Also Shula was a lousy hire.
I think this is a great post.
I really thought, with Barkley, we'd be running from under center a ton, with play action a vital part of our deception.
I wonder what % we've run play action this season....and in comparison to other teams.
I'm willing to give Shurmur 16 games. I am hoping, adjustments are still to come to this work in progress.
Shumur is toast. He got cucked by Sean Peyton.
I am not saying to fire Shurmur, but the Parcells analogy only goes so far since it was his first time as an NFL head coach and the learning curve is steep. Giving a young coach some room to develop is smart. Shurmur, on the other hand, is not a first time coach and has presumably had many years to focus in on why it failed in Cleveland. I was not expecting miracles of 3-13 to 10-6, but I was expecting a team to play good, fundamental football. That has not happened. The Special Team is a disaster, the clock management has not been very good, our game plans do not look particularly strong, we can't tackle well. These are things that I think directly reflect on the coach, and someone in their second stint I would expect the attention to detail to be better than it has here.