If he grabs the starting job the second half of the season and is stellar, do you think the giants would consider turning the franchise over to him, or do you think QB is a sure thing next year?
of Lauletta being Mahomes is so minimal that I just don't see it as a realistic possibility..think they go QB no matter what.
I agree about the possibility of that happening but I don't think the Giants will just take a QB because it is their top need. If they aren't high on Herbert or even Haskins then they won't take them. With that said I think that they will fall in love with Herbert. His talent and personality is exactly what they are looking for.
I don't think stellar is possible on this offense Â
Especially for a rookie 3rd round pick from a small school who every scout says does not have an ideal arm.
But, if it were to happen, I think it would depend on how the draft fell. Let's say Lauletta is inserted at 1-7, and he somehow leads us to a 5-3 2nd half, we'd probably be picking at 9 or 10 which may not land us the franchise QB.
So in that case, I think they'd hand the keys to Lauletta for at least a few years.
but he clearly is not ready to start as he showed in the preseason. Chances are that he will never be a starting caliber QB and although I like his ability I would never pass on a potential franchise QB because of Lauletta.
Don't presume that QB is a sure thing (draftwise).
Stop the Run; Run the Ball; Rush the Passer. It is simple and a different philosophy than what we have grown accustomed to under Reese. We have Barkley and know that OL will be a priority. We have a solid DL, but are lacking a pass rush. So keeping that in mind, if we are in the Top 5 than I expect Nick Bosa to be in consideration. If we are in the Top 10, than I expect Jonah Williams or Greg Little to be in consideration.
I dont think the Giants would keep 2 QBs on rookie contract next year so best bet is they will see what Lauletta got before season ends and if they like a QB then it be interesting wether they keep Lauletta or let go like Webb
did not waste a third round pick thinking this kid will never be the QB of the Giants. If they did that is crazy waste of a draft pick. So that said Kyle should see the field this year and if he doesn't the Giants are crazy. Get him ready to go because we need to find out what needs to be done next year. Whether we bring in a veteran or draft A QB in the first round or if Kyle is the answer. It will also give us a idea if part of the O-line problem is Eli.
it would be crazy not to try and figure it out. Look if they are going to take a QB with the 1st round pick than who cares about Kyle and whether he doesn't play well or any of that crap. Maybe he plays well enough we can get something for him if we want to take a QB in the first. Him sitting will make no sense at all.
Playing behind this oline he will be anything but stellar! Â
You spend a 3rd and a 4th on QBs and neither are a factor in considering QB of the future, what does that say about your process? Let's hope at least Lauletta has starter potential.
But can we stop again this year with the “he can’t even get active for games”
The giants are conservative and always think they can make the playoffs until mathematically eliminated— so they put the vet as number 2
Maybe the Giants could have drafted a couple O linemen instead?
If Lauletta develops into a solid backup then it was well worth the 4th round pick. There is no guarantee that our next QB will be an iron man like Eli. Odds are that he will miss a few games here and there. Having that solid backup is important.
look how much some of these backup QB's make per season. When the eagles acquired Bradford they also gave Chase Daniel a 3 year deal worth 7 million per season. Matt Moore was making 5+ million per season in Miami for years. Bridewater is making over 12 million this season. If Lauletta is the primary backup next year then that will be a great value at only 500-600k.
Maybe the Giants could have drafted a couple O linemen instead?
If Lauletta develops into a solid backup then it was well worth the 4th round pick. There is no guarantee that our next QB will be an iron man like Eli. Odds are that he will miss a few games here and there. Having that solid backup is important.
A solid backup can easily be found in FA, a team desperate for O-line help can ill afford to waste picks.
that thought he was the best QB entering the draft. If the team continues to tank, we will see Lauletta under center at some point this year so that the team can evaluate him. There is no way he will be mishandled the way Davis Webb was last year. They will have a good read by the end of year and will know if a QB should be targeted in the draft.
He doesn't have a rocket arm, but he is not weak-armed. I would be fine with the Giants turning over the keys to him at some point and focusing on improving the OL with the team's premium picks and free agent dollars.
Here's a link to... Lauletta talks with Kirk Cousins about arm strength.
In the video Cousins ranks arm strength behind leadership, accuracy, game management, and decision-making when evaluating a QB. As he says, as long as you have "enough arm strength" having a surplus is just a small bonus. And I think that's true. Just ask Joe Montana and a long list of highly successful NFL QBs.
From Boylhart...
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Kyle is a blue color quarterback who reminds me a little bit of former 49er’s QB Jeff Garcia when Garcia played more from the pocket. Kyle has excellent leadership qualities and character and his intangibles might be the best in this draft glass of talented quarterbacks. He works well form the pocket and has the athleticism and agility to manipulate the pocket and extend plays and make first downs and touch downs with his feet as well as in the pass game. He is smart and instinctive and works the offense like a coach on the field. Kyle shows on film good accuracy with good overall arm strength. He stands tall in the pocket and has excellent mental strength and stamina. Kyle does an excellent job moving and re-setting his feet and throwing the ball with strength, accuracy, and good mechanics. He is classic style quarterback who has played in a classic style offensive system working well from under center and in the shot gun formations. Kyle is a grinder.
especially in any poor manner.. we need to sit down with Eli and map out the future. That implies getting guys that are the future looks and game time to see what they have. Compare and contrast, effectiveness, mobility, system scheme fit, etc.
If we sit back and watch Eli go through the motions of a losing season the owners should be heavily criticized for being stooges of the highest order. These selfish owners have a sense of arrogance that they can pull off something that generally no one in the NFL can, in that you just replace a few pieces, install a superbowl countdown clock and start talking shit about a winning season. Personally I hate the Eagles, but that org is one to study as is KC. They get rid of players before they becoming rotting foundation and you can also notice a team without a bunch of superstars and primadonnas, just regular guys that show up and play hard. Many of our guys are soft, not versy smart, talkers,and malcontents. Not exactly a definition of teamwork.
especially in any poor manner.. we need to sit down with Eli and map out the future. That implies getting guys that are the future looks and game time to see what they have. Compare and contrast, effectiveness, mobility, system scheme fit, etc.
If we sit back and watch Eli go through the motions of a losing season the owners should be heavily criticized for being stooges of the highest order. These selfish owners have a sense of arrogance that they can pull off something that generally no one in the NFL can, in that you just replace a few pieces, install a superbowl countdown clock and start talking shit about a winning season. Personally I hate the Eagles, but that org is one to study as is KC. They get rid of players before they becoming rotting foundation and you can also notice a team without a bunch of superstars and primadonnas, just regular guys that show up and play hard. Many of our guys are soft, not versy smart, talkers,and malcontents. Not exactly a definition of teamwork.
Even Cleveland and Hue Jackson like a boss dumped crackhead Josh Gordon. NY Redskins are stuck with OBJ and Sheppard.
As someone who is a huge Eli fan and still thinks he can win with the right team, we have to find out what we have in Lauletta. Maybe we lucked out and got it right and he is the future QB; however, almost just as important is a pass rushing monster. Someone who just destroys plays by themselves. Someone who makes 3rd and long a nightmare. As a mobile QB, as most people want, can cover deficiencies in the online and other positions a Pass rusher can be similar--as we all know having the best one ever and some great ones.
Hypotheticals. This team has a lot of needs. Hopefully we get to evaluate the guy and then we can see how the players we have pan out. This team needs a few good drafts to get back to being competitive.
and we all know how that turned out. The Giants had a chance to draft either Darnold or Allen and they decided to take a running back. Hopefully a QB with their potential will be available next year or the year after. If not, the next ten years will belong to the Jets and this board will be deserted when it isn't populated by depressed Giants fans.
RE: Lauletta's arm is no better than Danny Kanell's Â
and we all know how that turned out. The Giants had a chance to draft either Darnold or Allen and they decided to take a running back. Hopefully a QB with their potential will be available next year or the year after. If not, the next ten years will belong to the Jets and this board will be deserted when it isn't populated by depressed Giants fans.
There will always be quarterbacks coming out of college football. Josh Allen left the game today with an elbow injury so maybe the idea of putting a rookie QB behind a bad OL is a bad one too.
RE: RE: Lauletta's arm is no better than Danny Kanell's Â
and we all know how that turned out. The Giants had a chance to draft either Darnold or Allen and they decided to take a running back. Hopefully a QB with their potential will be available next year or the year after. If not, the next ten years will belong to the Jets and this board will be deserted when it isn't populated by depressed Giants fans.
There will always be quarterbacks coming out of college football. Josh Allen left the game today with an elbow injury so maybe the idea of putting a rookie QB behind a bad OL is a bad one too.
It'a chance a team takes, I suppose. Barkley can also tear an ACL. I just don't want to live through another decade like the 70's or the 90's.
I agree about the possibility of that happening but I don't think the Giants will just take a QB because it is their top need. If they aren't high on Herbert or even Haskins then they won't take them. With that said I think that they will fall in love with Herbert. His talent and personality is exactly what they are looking for.
But, if it were to happen, I think it would depend on how the draft fell. Let's say Lauletta is inserted at 1-7, and he somehow leads us to a 5-3 2nd half, we'd probably be picking at 9 or 10 which may not land us the franchise QB.
So in that case, I think they'd hand the keys to Lauletta for at least a few years.
Stop the Run; Run the Ball; Rush the Passer. It is simple and a different philosophy than what we have grown accustomed to under Reese. We have Barkley and know that OL will be a priority. We have a solid DL, but are lacking a pass rush. So keeping that in mind, if we are in the Top 5 than I expect Nick Bosa to be in consideration. If we are in the Top 10, than I expect Jonah Williams or Greg Little to be in consideration.
You are entitled to your opinion, but the only one that matters is Dave's.
The giants are conservative and always think they can make the playoffs until mathematically eliminated— so they put the vet as number 2
I have to admit I laughed. Good one.
If Lauletta develops into a solid backup then it was well worth the 4th round pick. There is no guarantee that our next QB will be an iron man like Eli. Odds are that he will miss a few games here and there. Having that solid backup is important.
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Maybe the Giants could have drafted a couple O linemen instead?
If Lauletta develops into a solid backup then it was well worth the 4th round pick. There is no guarantee that our next QB will be an iron man like Eli. Odds are that he will miss a few games here and there. Having that solid backup is important.
A solid backup can easily be found in FA, a team desperate for O-line help can ill afford to waste picks.
Here's a link to...
Lauletta talks with Kirk Cousins about arm strength.
In the video Cousins ranks arm strength behind leadership, accuracy, game management, and decision-making when evaluating a QB. As he says, as long as you have "enough arm strength" having a surplus is just a small bonus. And I think that's true. Just ask Joe Montana and a long list of highly successful NFL QBs.
From Boylhart...
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If we sit back and watch Eli go through the motions of a losing season the owners should be heavily criticized for being stooges of the highest order. These selfish owners have a sense of arrogance that they can pull off something that generally no one in the NFL can, in that you just replace a few pieces, install a superbowl countdown clock and start talking shit about a winning season. Personally I hate the Eagles, but that org is one to study as is KC. They get rid of players before they becoming rotting foundation and you can also notice a team without a bunch of superstars and primadonnas, just regular guys that show up and play hard. Many of our guys are soft, not versy smart, talkers,and malcontents. Not exactly a definition of teamwork.
If we sit back and watch Eli go through the motions of a losing season the owners should be heavily criticized for being stooges of the highest order. These selfish owners have a sense of arrogance that they can pull off something that generally no one in the NFL can, in that you just replace a few pieces, install a superbowl countdown clock and start talking shit about a winning season. Personally I hate the Eagles, but that org is one to study as is KC. They get rid of players before they becoming rotting foundation and you can also notice a team without a bunch of superstars and primadonnas, just regular guys that show up and play hard. Many of our guys are soft, not versy smart, talkers,and malcontents. Not exactly a definition of teamwork.
Even Cleveland and Hue Jackson like a boss dumped crackhead Josh Gordon. NY Redskins are stuck with OBJ and Sheppard.
I don't think he is starter material with that arm, but he could be a backup.....
I didn't like the pick, just like I didn't like the Webb pick.....those picks should have been used on the needs of the roster....
But we have him, if there are blowouts, you baptize him in the fourth quarter.......let's see how he handles the pressure.....
Keep your Day jobs fellows......
But thanks for the entertainment (laughs).
There will always be quarterbacks coming out of college football. Josh Allen left the game today with an elbow injury so maybe the idea of putting a rookie QB behind a bad OL is a bad one too.
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and we all know how that turned out. The Giants had a chance to draft either Darnold or Allen and they decided to take a running back. Hopefully a QB with their potential will be available next year or the year after. If not, the next ten years will belong to the Jets and this board will be deserted when it isn't populated by depressed Giants fans.
There will always be quarterbacks coming out of college football. Josh Allen left the game today with an elbow injury so maybe the idea of putting a rookie QB behind a bad OL is a bad one too.
It'a chance a team takes, I suppose. Barkley can also tear an ACL. I just don't want to live through another decade like the 70's or the 90's.