NYG venting thread - list what you are tired of

which ends up screwing up this franchise for years. History repeats itself.

but it needs clarification.

-Seeing highlights of Odell practicing 1-handed catches in pregame when he drops passes that hit him in the hands when it matters.

It as if he individually is more important than the team. He can catch balls dropped from a drone during the pro-bowl, but is unable to field a punt. One is an individual contest, the other is for the benefit of the team. You look at his cleats emblazoned with his OBJ and 13. It is about him and his brand. It isn't about the team. It's not as if he is customizing cleats with the My Cause-My Cleats program unless OBJ is his own cause.

a venting thread complaining about something?

In comment 14127259 Bold Ruler said:

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which ends up screwing up this franchise for years. History repeats itself.

This as well

Stuck watching insufferable competitive fans at metlife the rest of the way.

Tired of seeing more metlife wins by the Eagles then the Giants past 2 years. Considering, the Eagle ONLY played twice!

Team is just not enjoyable to watch....and weather is getting cold. Nov. and Dec. Is going to suck

Being the clown diva whom needs iv's

Bad look for them nationally

I'm sick of the fans who care more about their favorite player than winning, and email Mara about it

1. Giving up a series after a first down penalty.
2. Struggles scoring in the red zone.
3. Poor special teams year after year.
4. Defense not getting stops at crucial times.
5. Running patterns where a player stops with his back towards the defense 4 yards down field.
6. Poor tackling
7. Missing open receivers.
8. Free rushers or little resistance multiple times a quarter.
9. Losing.
10. Putting band-aids on gashes.

In comment 14127272 Deejboy said:

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a venting thread complaining about something?

Exactly. What a miserable thread. Aren’t we crystal clear on what fans are sick of at this point?

And the fact that the first two posts mention Beckham practicing one handed catches pre game at the top of their lists speaks volumes of the mentality of this fan base. Of all the issues this team has had, Beckham practicing one handed catches is what they come up with first.

Classic BBI. You guys have fun “venting” on thread number 6000. This Sunday sure is off to a wonderful start for you all. Enjoy...

1) Not being able to keep the season alive beyond Halloween

2) Handing off the ball and running backwards

3) Horrific special teams making mental errors

4) Complete lack of physicality, particularly on offense. Never smacking teams in mouth or grinding them down physically on offense. Pure finesse always.



Playing the Giants is like half a bye week for the rest of the NFL.

Having to stand up and mske noise every 3rd down.....to just watch the other team move the chains.

OBJ discussion. Eli Discussion. Mentioning Reese or McAdoo. Mara. Not being able to convert on 3rd down. Not being able to stop 3rd down conversions. Giants' joke of a return game. 3 yard passes. Check Downs. Officiating. DG being decisive. Hog Mollies.

anything that says GIANTS or ny all fall/winter. Again.

(1) Lousy, losing football;
(2) 6-Year running shit offensive line;
(3) OBJ's drama queen proclivities;
(4) Special teams;
(5) Piss poor drafts;

And here's what will be on everyone's list by the end of season:

(6) Replacing Cleveland as the laughing stock of the NFL.

1964-1980... it could happen again

In comment 14127281 dep026 said:

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1. Giving up a series after a first down penalty. 2. Struggles scoring in the red zone. 3. Poor special teams year after year. 4. Defense not getting stops at crucial times. 5. Running patterns where a player stops with his back towards the defense 4 yards down field. 6. Poor tackling 7. Missing open receivers. 8. Free rushers or little resistance multiple times a quarter. 9. Losing. 10. Putting band-aids on gashes.

I'm sick of agreeing with dep on 98% of the things he is sick of.

I'm really sick of people complaining that this is a rebuilding year, when anybody with half a brain would have seen that and then feigning that they really believed that this team (which changed 33 of 53 players from last year) was built to contend. They will not contend until the oline is really fixed, not patched.

Pretty tired of folks bitching about Odell every day when all the guy sees are 5yd to 10 yard slants a hand full of times per game while being double and triple covered. (BTW, all receivers drop pass now and again, but I do understand the angst).

Just a little tired of Barkley being pulled in the red zone after he gets them there.

In comment 14127282 BigBlueShock said:

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In comment 14127272 Deejboy said: Quote: a venting thread complaining about something? Exactly. What a miserable thread. Aren’t we crystal clear on what fans are sick of at this point? And the fact that the first two posts mention Beckham practicing one handed catches pre game at the top of their lists speaks volumes of the mentality of this fan base. Of all the issues this team has had, Beckham practicing one handed catches is what they come up with first. Classic BBI. You guys have fun “venting” on thread number 6000. This Sunday sure is off to a wonderful start for you all. Enjoy...

Its no secret that his antics are childish and immature and arent needed, but....

I am sick of tired of hearing them the next day as why the Giants suck. They dont suck because Odell does something stupid on the sideline - even though they arent needed.

Mainstream media (here's looking at you RAANAN) only talk about two things about the Giants. Eli and OBJ. Little chatter about the OL, defense, or special teams. Shit, they dont even mention game changing errors by the officials. Always eli and OBJ. Granted Eli is in severe decline, and OBJ antic's arent needed.... but for fucks sake - give it a rest.

Eli's play and OBJ's antics arent the reason why we are 1-5. We are 1-5 because the whole damn team sucks. From mara to the waterboy (serioiusly give OBJ some damn water during the game!!! haha)

I hate football.

...Eli going down like a little girl.

1. Poor coaching
2. Toothless defense
3. TOBJ’s hair
4. TOBJ
5. Lousy special teams
6. Our stadium
7. Iggles fans
8. Iggles fans singing in our stadium
9. The black plastic souvenir cups at our stadium which should be blue
10. Ending the season in October

Stop hiring and putting family members in key FO positions

And the football season is over

In comment 14127309 CromartiesKid21 said:

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Stop hiring and putting family members in key FO positions

This. Maras in personnel are why this team is back in the 70s doldrums.

Last week, a low pass over the middle gets tipped, it goes immediately to an Eagle. The ball never gets above the shoulder line. It goes directly into the belly of an Eagle.

Meanwhile, we hit Palmer's arm, the ball goes way up in the air in the middle of eight guys and goes straight to an Eagle for a first down. We hit Palmer's arm again. The pass goes straight into the ground.

I'm getting tired of this crap. When do the odds turn in our favor?

Last week, a low pass over the middle gets tipped, it goes immediately to an Eagle. The ball never gets above the shoulder line. It goes directly into the belly of an Eagle.

Meanwhile, we hit Palmer's arm, the ball goes way up in the air in the middle of eight guys and goes straight to an Eagle for a first down. We hit Palmer's arm again. The pass goes straight into the ground.

I'm getting tired of this crap. When do the odds turn in our favor?
Right into his belly, like a magnet. - ( New Window )

LOSING.

They throw the ball into Connor Barwin's stomach and he drops it.

They fumble into the middle of the defensive line and the ball goes back to their RB.

Their punt returner fumbles while our gunner runs by and looks at the crowd.

C'mon.

Next question.

Tired of being embarrassed in prime time games.
Tired of losing to rivals and not competing in mediocre division
Tired of always looking ahead to next season.
Tired of arguing with other NYG fans about what’s wrong and who’s to blame.

Year in year out.

and bad FA signings.

Can we field one decent ST unit for once? And while he's not in charge, can someone please explain how Tom Quinn survived all this?

The FA business has not improved - and I'm not sure why that's a surprise, given all those people retained their jobs as well.

Have freaking jailbreaks at Eli! Can ANYBODY block on this team, on the handoffs to Barkley it looks like there is no team in front of him at times!

1--- Lack of awareness pertaining to how bad the team was from organization.

2--- Poor decisions from the organization from FA signings to draft decisions.

3--- Organization's continual lack of understanding of positional value.

1) Not running screen passes well.
2) Third down passes reaching the receiver short of the sticks.
3) Not having a good package of plays for 1st and goal.
4) Undisciplined special teams.
5) Not wrapping players when we tackle.
6) OBJ practicing 1-hand catches rather than 2-hand catches.
7) Head coaches who call plays rather than coach the whole team.
8) Wasting timeouts to avoid meaningless 5-yard penalties.
9) Seeing players try to pick up fumbles rather than fall on them.
10) Hearing Eli say "We've got to make more plays."

standards. Unless the guy is perfect, they don't want him.

Incredible how stupid some are.

I am actually very tired of Odell's bullshit now. I thought he had learned from the past, but it seems that is not the case.

I completely understand his frustration, and most of what he's said isn't even wrong or off-base.

But the way he's thrown the coach and QB under the bus and the way he keeps putting himself above the team.... I've finally had enough of it.

Saquon Barkley is the only fucking thing I like about the Giants right now.

And disappointed or should I say hate seeing Eli go out like this (even though deep down inside you know it usually happens) but most of all I’m tired of the fans I should say not everyone like the ones that get it. We were a horrible team last year brought in a new regime got rid of 60% of the roster there’s no way in hades this was going to be a quick fix. Now to the parts that are getting real tiresome

The saquon vs darnold debate. I swear it the nyg version of the presidential election. I personally was on the Barkley train and I get those that wanted darnold or any of the other qb’s for that matter. I’m not saying I’m right or they are it’s just an opinion and don’t mind the debates for either. The problem is for a lot of people on here as soon as someone else has a different opinion then theirs it breaks down to name calling and attacks on the other person ( dupes and trolls not included and deserve what they get)

Almost as bad are those with a personal vendetta against a certain player. Nobody ever said you had to like every player or even want them on the team. Again it’s your opinion the issue is when every single thread spew out the same thing over and over and twists every little thing to fit their agenda usually taking things out of context. Again like above usually turns into an attack on the other posters for having a different opinion.

Thirdly more like annoying is those that have no clue on how a team is run. You can’t sign every single free agent monetarily it’s not possible and that’s assuming they want to even be here. Not every draft pick will be a home run. There will be some misses and you need need some blue collar solid types as well not just super stars. This is a process and will take time. They have a plan and whether you or I understand it is irrelevant. They won’t come out and tell you their plan nor do I want them to it’s not in their best interest to. Once again this is not a quick fix no matter how much pr crap they spew ( no team will come out and say we are gonna suck this year and maybe next so we can get better).

Frustrated or even pissed off at how the games go is understandable but can’t we keep some civility. The common denominator in all this is the personal attacks and vicious name calling because someone has a different opinion. Some great posters and people have left this site for good because of this and quite honestly I don’t see that trend ending anytime soon.

Never forcing a punt or stopping a 3rd down especially when it really matters. I've grown jaded to just be resigned to expecting the other team to hit an easy slant on 3rd and 11 with yards to spare

Not getting sacks or enough pressure on the QB. Seeing Wentz just standing there in the pocket patiently waiting for someone in the end zone to get open with Mary a Giant within 5 yards

Getting 'reffed'. I'm also resigned to expect an immediate flag on the rare occasions we have a big play on offense or defense that gets nullified or called back usually for a questionable reason

The media spending way too much time acting like gossipy teen girls over whatever OBJ says or does instead of focusing on the entire team

What I am tired of:

I’m tired of losing world class wide receivers early in their careers to injuries.

I’m tired of the team failing to put a representative offensive line on the field so that great players who desperately want to win don’t go off the deep end with frustrations.

I’m tired of sports networks and highlight shows focusing only on the “skill players“ when the time comes to dole out responsibility for failure.

I’m tired of coaches who are stubborn and keep doing the same things over and over.

I’m tired of people who think scheme can provide cover for lack of talent.

I’m tired of fans who would rather not see certain players score so they won’t have to look at celebration dances.

When the pressure is on.

Do it opportunistically, for sure, but not predictably.

It's the NFC East, and you have the RB , use run to set up pass.

So. Practice the runs more.

I am also tired of consistent 3 and outs
I am tired of the defense not being able to get off the field on 3rd down, especially on 3rd and long
I am tired of settling for FG's or not scoring at all in the red zone
I am tired of watching long passes on 3rd and short
I am tired of the consistent runs up the middle on 3rd and short
I am tired of not seeing the TE's involved in the offense.

on venting complaints

Tired of players quiting on the field.

Sick of OBJ and his me attitude.

No pass rush

Running the locker room and having every new young player also follow that mentality.

Yeah we get it, Eli Manning is not a great QB right now i don’t think any winning will occur until you remove the root of the blame game culture.

Very similar to where those types did to Russel Wilson in Seattle. And so far it’s Russel Wilson for the win.

Go have your career where being a Mara doesn't guarantee you a job.

for THE PRIMARY REASON why we lost a game. The bad calls absolutely impact the outcome but this team sucks balls and our players blew more plays in a game than the refs do.

Except Saquon.

Ownership’s meddling in the football operations.
Bickering over our choice of Barkley vs a QB. Live with it.
Trying to fix the OL for 6 years
OBJ antics
BBI bloggers impatience with the new regime
People constantly defending Eli’s poor play

Where the giants just need to a win to basically send the stadium and the fan base into an optimistic euphoric state only to see the team shit the fucking bed while Eli fails to make one big play at the key moments.

Rinse. Repeat.

In comment 14127293 M.S. said:

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(1) Lousy, losing football; (2) 6-Year running shit offensive line; (3) OBJ's drama queen proclivities; (4) Special teams; (5) Piss poor drafts; And here's what will be on everyone's list by the end of season: (6) Replacing Cleveland as the laughing stock of the NFL. 1964-1980... it could happen again

It is happening again.

2016 = 1970.

the team that every other team in the league looks at on their schedule and counts it as a win. We dont scare anyone.

The way some posters shit on Eli with every chance they get .Some of us understand what he has meant for this team
We can see his play has declined never blessed with wheel's
He brought us two Lombardi's and some of the greatest
clutch throws ever made .
The failure of this organization to put together an offensive line for so many years that have wasted his talent
The expectations of the rebuild currently going on and the lack of patience . I think were heading in the right direction . Another strong draft in 2019 and the end of some big contracts we will be able to get much better in the trenches feel we are in good hands right now so let's
give the new staff and GM a chance before we burn them
at the stake ,

Seems to happen in every game

sick of seeing sub-par LB groups. As a kid up until college the Giants had good to great LB corps. Now I yearn for at least the quality of Corey Widmer

In comment 14127905 Bluesbreaker said:

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The way some posters shit on Eli with every chance they get .Some of us understand what he has meant for this team We can see his play has declined never blessed with wheel's He brought us two Lombardi's and some of the greatest clutch throws ever made . The failure of this organization to put together an offensive line for so many years that have wasted his talent The expectations of the rebuild currently going on and the lack of patience . I think were heading in the right direction . Another strong draft in 2019 and the end of some big contracts we will be able to get much better in the trenches feel we are in good hands right now so let's give the new staff and GM a chance before we burn them at the stake ,

+1

The "Fans"
The "media"

Losing in general.

......sad mostly, at what this site has become. I'm sad that the last few years has turned a pretty good bunch of people into a howling mob.